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    abou: many roman statues were copies of hellenistic and classical sculpture. For example the statue of Augustus in Prima Porta adapted from the classical bronze statue Doryphoros, to carry Augustus message of a new age with him as Princeps. But also the romans had their own, and they adapted their own styles. Usually this was part of imperial propaganda, were Augustus is portrayed as muscular, compared to how he probably realy was; skinny. Also the romans compared to the greek helenistic statues specially during republican times, tried to portray people realistic; old people with wrencles.

    And to eat bread, you need corn. The legionaries carried corn, not bread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianus View Post
    abou: many roman statues were copies of hellenistic and classical sculpture. For example the statue of Augustus in Prima Porta adapted from the classical bronze statue Doryphoros, to carry Augustus message of a new age with him as Princeps. But also the romans had their own, and they adapted their own styles. Usually this was part of imperial propaganda, were Augustus is portrayed as muscular, compared to how he probably realy was; skinny. Also the romans compared to the greek helenistic statues specially during republican times, tried to portray people realistic; old people with wrencles.
    Yeah, of course the Romans have their own. I don't have four books on Greek and Roman art and took a graduate-level course in the subject to not know that. Roman Verism, has often been hypothesized as being overdone - overemphasizing wrinkles and scarring - whereas Hellenistic Verism, a departure from the perfection of the Hellenistic era, tends for the more dramatic.

    That being said, a lot of surviving Roman artwork have been shown to be copies of Hellenistic ones.

    And to eat bread, you need corn. The legionaries carried corn, not bread.
    And your point is?

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    Err... Roman statues were usually copies of Hellenistic ones. And a the diet of the average Roman soldier would have been the same as a Hellenistic soldier: bread.
    Roman soldiers carried their corn to eat bread (at least after Marius), they didn`t carry bread.
    All roman staues werent copies of the helenistic ones. The romans copied classical and hellenistic staues on grand scales. But many were also adaptions from hellenistic and classical sculpures. For example Augustus portrayed in Prima porta, as an adaption from the greek bronze Doryphoros. In Doryphoros the message is probably of an athlete were the artist wants to portray the ideal male beauty. In Prima Porta this ideal beauty of Doryphoros embodied in the emperor Augustus, is part of imperial symbolism in Augustus new era of the principate, and it contains symbols on the cuircass of for example the parthians delivering the lost legionary standards of Crassus back to the romans. Its also easy to see that the romans had their own styles as one can see how it changes through the centuries. From a mild and "populares" look during the early pricipate, to a more brutal military look during the Severans. The romans also did something the hellenistic greeks didnt, they showed old people with wrencles, some to give an image of long traditions were an old wrencly man shows his ancestors deathmasks. Also statues of old beggars, not idealised at all.
    Btw, I don`t think you know anything of my standards, so its redicilous to comment on them.
    The picture was very well made, and good piece of art.
    Last edited by Christianus; 08-19-2009 at 20:28. Reason: Sorry: double post:)
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    Actually, I would love to hear about your "standards" (do you mean credentials?). Because considering the level of crap we've gotten from posters both here and at TWC (particularly on a recent thread concerning hoplites) I want to make sure that:

    1. I'm not patronizing you by talking down to you
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    2. You're not just reading Wikipedia
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    Im a huge fan of EB, and its the only thing I play on the computers, but its members seem to be a bit patronizing. I have huge respect for your work indeed! I think the EB team is more into discussing University style cause of the level of education probably. But beeing nice aint gonna make the mod less popular! Like you saying between the lines that im reading wikipedia. This aint the Uni. Im now starting my masters degree in history, but am too boored to keep discussions on the forum, I write enough at my studies.
    OK, enough of my spam.
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    No, dude, if you study history that is awesome. That means we can have a discussion that isn't simply comprised of people pulling things out of the air.
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    "Making good progress with the CUF file format: perhaps we'll see custom Europa Barbarorum II fonts in the future! -Tellos Athenaios."

    Does this mean we will have greek letters as well as latin letters on some things? :p
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    Strat map ship models are being made and looking beautiful. - Krusader 4:25 PM Aug 19th from web

    Drapanai model got finished which has some unique touches than the other getai models. -Tux 12:32 AM Aug 21st from web

    Gah! Lemme see, lemme SEE!

    Finalized concept of the first Arabian unit, which is about to be modelled. - Moros 5:33 PM Aug 21st from web

    Completed the high poly Hjortspring boat model for the UI picture which will also be used to create the fleet icon, next skinning it. -Tux 2:58 AM Aug 25th from web

    Making good progress with the CUF file format: perhaps we'll see custom Europa Barbarorum II fonts in the future! -Tellos Athenaios. about 23 hours ago from web

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianus View Post
    "Making good progress with the CUF file format: perhaps we'll see custom Europa Barbarorum II fonts in the future! -Tellos Athenaios."

    Does this mean we will have greek letters as well as latin letters on some things? :p
    One of the possibilities. There are theoretically 65535 characters or so possible in the CUF file format (but actually 65534 due to a bug in the M2TW engine when it encounters NULL characters so while you could include that as a meaningful character in the CUF File you can't use it because the game will act funny).

    Although it is more likely that whatever conversion/editing tools I come up with will be used to get rid of the “Medieval looking” fonts in favour of others that look better in a mod about antiquity.
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    I don't think I've said that this was done:


    Note. It's still an WIP.

    What may this be?
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    Awesome a Germanic Spearmen ! I hope I'm right with my earlier prediction of them being previewed after the Romans!

    Though if you guys do the Chatti Proven Spearmen again, I've read this book that they wouldn't actually cut their beirds but remove the hair in front of their front face(front head, upper face or however you call it). Or just making a ponytail of some sort. And the book then calls a number of examples saying such portrayals of apparantly Chatti exist. (Though some might very well have cut of the beird)

    Unit diversity is going to be great!
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    Wrong guess. The detail is too much for an normal unit model, no more tips from now.

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    Oh, oh oh teach, ask me, ask me teach, I know, oh, oh teach, I know it teach, pick me, pick me, teach, come on, ask me, ask me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    Oh, oh oh teach, ask me, ask me teach, I know, oh, oh teach, I know it teach, pick me, pick me, teach, come on, ask me, ask me!
    Gah! You're driking again without me?! Shame on you...

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    Those incisives are impressing indeed... could he be a relative to Vlad the Impaler?

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    I'm guessing a model for new family member portraits?

    I have also been drinking, but probably slightly less than moros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    I'm guessing a model for new family member portraits?

    I have also been drinking, but probably slightly less than moros.
    Yes that too.

    Heh I think many would have troubles drinking more than him...

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    Is it really that wierd to start drinking while having your breakfast?
    If that's the case maybe I do have a problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tux View Post
    Yes that too.
    I'm confused does that mean i was wrong? If I was then the only other thing I can think of is its a model for videos ie campaign, faction..etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    Is it really that wierd to start drinking while having your breakfast?
    If that's the case maybe I do have a problem...
    Depends on the drink, orange juice wouldn't be a problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    I'm confused does that mean i was wrong? If I was then the only other thing I can think of is its a model for videos ie campaign, faction..etc
    Yes. But maybe my words confused you, I meant not individual soldiers in the unit which are composed by parts but someone special in it...

    I think I said more than was needed. Since if it was only for what you meant I would have made the beard of individual hair lines and not on.
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    Ahhh so a standard bearer or general then thats is quite an impressive level of detail, now i can gaze proudly at my mighty generals teeth while he smashes the enemies out!
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    Bingo.

    He's scabbard:


    No more eye candy for now.
    Last edited by Tux; 09-08-2009 at 17:31.

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    Excellent stuff, Tux!
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    Regalique situ pyramidum altius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tux View Post

    No more eye candy for now.


    I'd give anything* to see that Drapanai model...





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    Oh, Just beautiful.


    Also, I don't think you'll extract that model off them, no matter how drunk they are.

    'Let no man be called happy before his death. Till then, he is not happy, only lucky." -Solon


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    Well as I am a little drunk I'll just show a sneak peak at it with the falxes and a part of the headwear.





    EDiT:

    Ohh yeah, dance like a chicken.
    Last edited by Tux; 09-09-2009 at 20:44.

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    Aw, what the heck, be showered with balloons!


    Attempting to dance like a chicken.... now




    Oh, right. Will there be multiple versions of the falx within a unit of Drapanai?
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    Yeah, why do you think I made so many?!

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    Here, be suffocated smothered (wouldn't do well at all to kill you, of course) under the weight of all these balloons! ...2.0 x 10^3 s.
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    This is pure


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