Better than it being prone to rule 34.
Better than it being prone to rule 34.
This space intentionally left blank.
I was once alive, but then a girl came and took out my ticker.
my 4 year old modding project--nearing completion: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219506 (if you wanna help, join me).
tired of ridiculous trouble with walking animations? then you need my brand newmotion capture for the common man!
"We have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if we put the belonging to, in the I don't know what, all gas lines will explode " -alBernameg
anyways: you guys really need to stop fussing over what faction will be there (i.e: don't ask the dev forum members). all the dev team will do is tantalize you and tortue you with posibilities, and when they don't, they give political answers (i.e they answer nothing), so either way, they are tantalizing you.
just wait and see who guesses right. besides, I'm surprised at how imaginative some of your choices are; a complete disregard for game mechanics is most evident.
(seriously, the EB team isn't throwing some random faction in merely because it existed in 272 BC: they almost certainly consider historical importance, geography, and game balance, the EDU, DMB, province limits, and the team's manpower, to realize those factions. why do you all think they chose the numidians and pergamese for? any faction you fellows think is/should be in needs to take those factors into consideration. if you apply that logic to numidia and pergamon, you'll ind out on your own what will probably be in-though you'll never be 100% certain.)
I was once alive, but then a girl came and took out my ticker.
my 4 year old modding project--nearing completion: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219506 (if you wanna help, join me).
tired of ridiculous trouble with walking animations? then you need my brand newmotion capture for the common man!
"We have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if we put the belonging to, in the I don't know what, all gas lines will explode " -alBernameg
- Tellos Athenaios
CUF tool - XIDX - PACK tool - SD tool - EVT tool - EB Install Guide - How to track down loading CTD's - EB 1.1 Maps thread
“ὁ δ᾽ ἠλίθιος ὣσπερ πρόβατον βῆ βῆ λέγων βαδίζει” – Kratinos in Dionysalexandros.
'Let no man be called happy before his death. Till then, he is not happy, only lucky." -Solon
true, but the point I was aiming at was simply that you can guess what you want, just don't make the silly mistake of asking or involving the dev forum, or taking it/them too seriously-they won't help, nor will they oblige with your (plural your) wishes regarding the identity of the factions. I put that in parenthesies y'know
besides, I like speculation on what factions there will be, just not the sillier moments regarding the identity of the factions-like when you guys see stuff in the occultus (what soapstone star?). it looks too much like I'm watching a HTWW video... or an example of excessive pareidolia.
@TA: why should it be 1? as long as p<1, then there is an element of surprise, and thus enjoyment when it comes.
I was once alive, but then a girl came and took out my ticker.
my 4 year old modding project--nearing completion: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219506 (if you wanna help, join me).
tired of ridiculous trouble with walking animations? then you need my brand newmotion capture for the common man!
"We have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if we put the belonging to, in the I don't know what, all gas lines will explode " -alBernameg
Then it must that the new factions already have at least one unit to represent them, or have a unit rooster for the biggest part already in.
Which means some factions are thus likely:
Belgae
Another Britain faction
Galatia
Bosporus
Syrakousai
Indian faction
Baltic faction
Lugii
Boii
Any Germanic faction, Bastarnae, Chatii, Cherusci etc.
Massilia
Still many options, with even more uncalled.
Last edited by Phalanx300; 07-10-2009 at 10:08.
I didn't say it should be 1, though. I said the algorithmic complexity of accurately predicting what factions will be in EB 2 without any solid fact as basis for assumptions is likely larger than just wait for it to come out.
And I can be sure of that statement if the probability for each of your predicted factions to be included must amount to 1, since that is equivalent to solving the halting problem (infinite complexity: solving each sub problem is as complex as solving the entire problem itself).
- Tellos Athenaios
CUF tool - XIDX - PACK tool - SD tool - EVT tool - EB Install Guide - How to track down loading CTD's - EB 1.1 Maps thread
“ὁ δ᾽ ἠλίθιος ὣσπερ πρόβατον βῆ βῆ λέγων βαδίζει” – Kratinos in Dionysalexandros.
I was once alive, but then a girl came and took out my ticker.
my 4 year old modding project--nearing completion: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219506 (if you wanna help, join me).
tired of ridiculous trouble with walking animations? then you need my brand newmotion capture for the common man!
"We have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if we put the belonging to, in the I don't know what, all gas lines will explode " -alBernameg
Rule 34 - If it exists [on the internet], then there is porn of it.wut? rules 1,2, and 34?
Europa Barbarorum: Novus Ordo Mundi - Mod Leader Europa Barbarorum - Team Member
"To robbery, slaughter, plunder, they give the lying name of empire; they make a desert and call it peace." -CalgacusOriginally Posted by skullheadhq
Amazingly, or shockingly depending, Rule 34 is often quite accurate.
If not, there's always Rule 35.
Pool's closed. Looks like 4chan has come to the EBII forums.
This thread has just died, but what a way to go.
Could the horde faction posssibly be the slavs??
'Let no man be called happy before his death. Till then, he is not happy, only lucky." -Solon
Now that you say it, thats actually quote possible, an Slavic faction, might be the no one has said it yet faction!
Did the Slavs even exist at that time? Besides, there's no way they could be considered a state.
ThanksOriginally Posted by Phalanx300
Venedae?
Last edited by Alsatia; 07-13-2009 at 01:49.
'Let no man be called happy before his death. Till then, he is not happy, only lucky." -Solon
Well, there are plenty of factions that people haven't suggested, but played no part at all and barely existed.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
- Proud Horseman of the Presence
What about the Indogreeks or something like Gandahara kingdom, they will start Indian and become Helenized after reforms. I remember a faction emblem with ichtyokentaur (the beast that Indohelenic noble hoplite has on shield) in one of EB1 previews. As shown in EB2 previws EB team did great job in implementing new features like culture buildings and nomad camps, so perhaps factions on the edge of the map won't be problem.
my balloons
Wasn't Gandahara controlled by the Maureans at the time? The problem is that it would be really unrealistic to add an Indian faction without including most of India, as that is where their focus would lie. Never mind such problems as limited culture and unit slots.
Looking for a good read? Visit the Library!
Yes, though there are already many Indian unit slots which makes it a not that unlikely canidate for a faction! I usually look at that for new faction options as a strong factor in it.
The culture wouldn't be problem, they would be Eastern Greek with few unique buildings at the beginning to represent Indian features, later (after Helenisation) they will use normal Eastern Greek buildings.
And there are many Indo-Greek units already ingame: I. light spermen, longbowmen, guild wariors, IH peltast, light hoplite, helenic hoplite (Saka reform), elite hoplite, Taxilans, Kambojas, IH cav. (Saka reform), Indo-Saka catas, 2 elephants
There are regular factions which have less units that would be considered their unique.
And the interests in India could be solved by some events, expenditure for out-of-map wars, few rebel stacks spawned randomly or something similar.
According to Wikipedia, Helenic rule in that region started around 200 BC and that would be that reform or dynasty change.
Last edited by Andronikos; 07-14-2009 at 18:24.
my balloons
So, emergent faction? I thought the team rules that out.
There are only really three indo-greek units in the game, the indohellenic peltasts, indohellennic infantry and indohellenic noble infantry all the rest are either indian or hellenic Saka units.
Some would have been used in indo greek armies (light spearmen, longbowmen, guild wariors Taxilian cav, Kamboja's and elephants) but others are products of Greek/Saka interactions and wouldn't be seen in Indo-Hellenic armies (the hellenic hoplite and maybe the greek cavalry) as for the Indo-Saka Cataphracts the clue is in the name, they certainly would be in a IH army.
But in the end the Indo-Hellenic Kingdom is highly unlikely to be in EBII due to the fact it didn't exist in 272bc.
Last edited by bobbin; 07-14-2009 at 20:34.
and still nobady remember whats probably the most obvious faction of all
the schytians of mikra schytia, altough they where being pushed aside by the sauromatae they where far from dead since they only got conquered by 110 bc. (by a pontiac king) a mixed schytian hellenic faction that could work like the saka on the west with a mix of hoplites and horse archers and with the amazing crimean heavy archer to defend it´s walls from the getic the sauromatae and the persian sucessors (hay or pontos)
they would be a buffer beteween the getai and the sauromatae and there´s 4 possible city´s for them (2 in crimea) olbia (capital? altough it wasn´t conquered by 272bc and was a greek city i believe) and that one that normally gets stormed by the sauromatae in the sea of azov
for victory conditions they could possibly have to emulate their massive invasions of the 7th century bc (?) wich enabled the persians to press the advantage and overthrow the medians and the assirians (?)
there´s some evidence that in the sea of azov there was a schytian city that had the hability to house over 1m people (and i know it´s from wikipedia so not so reliable but if it could impress the greek authors maybe it´s worth a chance at fighting back the sauromatae and give the getae a run for their money at the start)
seems the most obvious of all (after the boii and the belgae)
anyway just my 2cents for a dream come true of a steppe faction with a greek economic development an schytian-hellenic faction
The Bosphoran kingdom has been suggested many, many times. Not really fitting the team's statement, although I doubt it anyways.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
- Proud Horseman of the Presence
Bookmarks