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    As some of you may (or may not) remember a while ago Tux floated around the idea around for a face database thread in this post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tux View Post
    Anyway I'm thinking of creating a thread were everyone can post the faces they would wish to see in EB2's units.

    This would help us, artists, since we wouldn't lose time searching for useful pics however I would need a volunteer to coordonate the thread. But if no one volunteers then no problem I'll just drop this idea.
    So with Tux's blessing I am volunteering to start and manage...

    The EBII Face Database

    As Tux says having a easily accessible database will make the EB team's job easier and speed the release of the mod which is good news for everyone. This is a chance for the fans to make a contribution to the mod we all know and love and who knows, if you lucky your face could end up in the game, maybe on a frenzied nudist Gaesatae hacking away at his enemies.

    The face images will be divided into regional groups to allow the EB guys to easily navigate what will hopefully be a sizable collection of faces from all over the EB map.

    A small map of the regions for ease of viewing


    Northern Europe
    (Light Green)Faces from the following countries will go here: Ireland, UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Estonia, Lithuania, Lativia.
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    Brown Hair, Beard, France
    Brown Hair, Swiss
    Brown Hair, Moustache, Hungaria
    Blonde Hair, Denmark
    Brown Hair, Denmark
    Blonde Hair, Austria
    Blonde Hair, Austria
    Brown Hair, Austria
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, Austria
    Brown Hair, Beard, Austria
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, UK
    Red Hair, UK
    Blonde, UK
    Brown/Blonde Hair, Beard, Norway, different photo
    Black Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, UK
    Black Hair, Germany
    Blonde Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, UK
    Black Hair, Romania
    Grey Hair, Beard, UK
    Brown Hair, Sweden
    Brown Hair, Sweden
    Brown Hair, Beard, Bald, Sweden
    Blonde Hair, Light Beard, Sweden
    Blonde Hair, Germany
    Blonde Hair, Denmark
    Brown Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, Beard, Painted Face, Norway
    Grey Hair, Beard, Germany
    Blonde Hair, Finland
    Black Hair, Ireland
    Brown Hair, Ireland
    Black Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, UK
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Brown Hair, Ireland
    Grey Hair, Beard, Ireland
    Black Hair, Beard, Romania
    Brown Hair, Balding, Switzerland
    Blonde Hair, Beard, Switzerland
    Brown/Grey Hair, Switzerland
    Brown Hair, Beard, Switzerland
    Black Hair, Switzerland
    Blonde Hair, Finland
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Blonde Hair, Switzerland
    Blonde Hair, Poland
    Brown Hair, Poland
    Grey Hair, Moustache, Poland
    Blonde Hair, Poland
    Brown Hair, Balding, Norway
    Brown Hair, Beard, UK
    Blonde Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Brown Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Brown Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Brown Hair, Beard, Painted Face, Denmark
    Blonde hair, Beard, Painted Face, Denmark
    Blonde Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Blonde Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Black Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Blonde Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Blonde Hair, Beard, Denmark
    Brown Hair, Beard, Poland
    Black Hair, Moustache, Romania (Romany)
    Blonde Hair, Balding, Norway
    Brown Hair, Beard, USA
    Brown Hair, Beard, France
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, UK
    Brown Hair, Beard, UK
    Grey/Black Hair, USA
    Brown Hair, Beard, USA
    Brown Hair, USA
    Brown Hair, Estonia
    Bald, UK
    Black Hair, UK
    Blonde Hair, Light Beard, Germany
    Blonde Hair, Denmark
    Brown Hair, Denmark
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, France
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, Germany
    Blonde Hair, Light Beard, Sweden
    Brown Hair, Czech Republic
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Brown Hair, Czech Republic
    Blonde Hair, USA
    Black Hair, Romania
    Blonde Hair, Poland
    Blonde Hair, Poland
    Black Hair, France
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Brown Hair, Austria
    Blonde/Brown Hair, Belgium
    Blonde Hair, France
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Black Hair, Beard, Czech Republic
    Blonde Hair, Beard, Austria
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Blonde Hair, Poland
    Brown Hair, Czech Republic
    Grey Hair, Beard, Germany
    Black Hair, USA
    Brown Hair, Hungary
    Brown Hair, Ireland
    Brown Hair, Ireland
    Brown Hair, Ireland
    Black Hair, Ireland
    Black Hair, Ireland
    Black Hair, Ireland
    Brown Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, Beard, UK
    Brown Hair, UK
    Blonde Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, UK
    Blonde Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, UK

    Brown/Black Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, UK
    Black/Brown Hair, UK
    Brown Hair, France
    Blonde Hair, France
    Black Hair, France
    Black Hair, Beard, France
    Brown Hair, Latvia
    Brown Hair, Beard, Czech Republic
    Brown Hair, Finland
    Brown Hair, Beard, Slovakia
    Brown Hair, Finland
    Blonde Hair, Sweden
    Blonde Hair, Finland
    Brown Hair, Sweden
    Brown Hair, Finland
    Brown Hair, Sweden
    Brown Hair, Sweden
    Brown Hair, Sweden
    Blonde Hair, Sweden
    Blonde Hair, Sweden
    Blonde Hair, Sweden
    Blonde Hair, Finland
    Brown Hair, Beard, Finland
    Brown Hair, Sweden
    Brown Hair, Slovakia
    Brown Hair, Finland
    Brown Hair, Beard, Sweden
    Grey/Brown Hair, Germany
    Brown Hair, Germany
    Grey Hair, Austria
    Grey Hair, Beard, UK


    Southern Europe
    (Red)Faces from the following countries will go here: Portugal, Spain, Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, FYRO Macedonia, Bulgaria, Greece.
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    Black Hair, Greece
    Grey Hair, Moustache, Serbia
    Brown Hair, Bulgaria
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, Spain
    Brown Hair, Beard, Spain
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain, different photo
    Brown/Grey Hair, Beard, Spain
    Black Hair, Beard, Spain, different photo
    Two Men, Black Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, Greece
    Black Hair, Greece
    Black Hair, Greece
    Black Hair, Greece
    Black Hair, Balding, Greece
    Brown Hair, Greece
    Black/Grey Hair, Beard, Greece
    Brown Hair, Greece
    Brown Hair, Greece
    Grey Hair, Greece
    Brown Hair, Greece
    Black Hair, Greece (Pontic Greek)
    Black Hair, FYROM
    Black Hair, Portugal
    Black Hair, USA (French-Spanish-Lebanese decent)
    Brown Hair, Light Beard, Greece
    Brown Hair, Beard, Spain
    Grey Hair, Balding, Italy
    Grey Hair, Serbia
    Brown Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Beard, Italy
    Black Hair, Portugal
    Black Hair, Light Beard, Greece
    Black Hair, Beard, Spain
    Black Hair, Light Beard, Greece
    Brown Hair, Croatia
    Black Hair, Brazil
    Black Hair, Unknown (Possibly Italy)
    Black Hair, Light Beard, Unkown (Possible Italy)
    Black Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Italy/Austria
    Blonde Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Spain

    Black Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Light Beard, Spain

    Brown Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Croatia
    Brown Hair, Croatia
    Brown Hair, Serbia
    Black Hair, Chile
    Brown Hair, USA
    Brown Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Beard, Serbia
    Black Hair, Brazil
    Brown Hair, Brazil
    Black Hair, Argentina
    Black Hair, Brazil
    Black Hair, Colombia
    Brown Hair, Serbia
    Grey Hair, Beard, Bulgaria
    Black Hair, Slovenia
    Blonde Hair, Italy
    Black Hair, Italy
    Brown Hair, Italy
    Black Hair, Italy
    Brown Hair, Italy
    Blonde Hair, Italy
    Black Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Beard, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Spain
    Brown Hair, Spain
    Red Hair, Spain
    Black Hair, Portugal
    Black Hair, Portugal
    Black Hair, Portugal
    Black Hair, Portugal
    Black Hair, Portugal
    Brown Hair, Portugal
    Brown Hair, Portugal
    Brown Hair, Slovenia
    Brown Hair, Bulgaria
    Brown Hair, Bulgaria
    Black Hair, Italy



    Northwestern Africa
    (Gray)Faces from the following countries will go here: Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, Mali


    Northeastern Africa
    (Yellow)Faces from the following countries will go here: Egypt, Libya


    The Upper Nile & Eastern Sahara
    (Light Orange)Faces from the following countries will go here: Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Niger, Chad, Djibouti.


    The Near East & Mesopotamia
    (Brown)Faces from the following countries will go here: Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, Isreal, Palastine, Jordan, Iraq.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Arabia
    (Black)Faces from the following countries will go here: Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait.


    Western Steppe
    (Dark Orange)Faces from the followign countries will go here: Belarus, Russia, Ukraine.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Caucasus
    (Dark Blue)Faces from the following countries will go here:Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia.


    Persia
    (Purple)Faces form the following countries will goe here: Iran.


    Central Asia
    (Dark Green)Faces from the following countries will go here Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, China.


    Eastern Steppe
    (Pink)Faces from the following countries will go here: Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan.


    Indian Subcontinent
    (Light Blue)Faces from the following countries will go here: Pakistan, India.


    Ancillaries
    This is for Ancillary icons, photo's of people too old or young to be soldiers will go here.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    If anyone has any issues with the choice of regional groups please feel free to say so, I freely admit my knowledge of some areas is not perfect so if southern Arabians look considerable different from northern or people from the Caucasus's don't look any different from those in Anatolia please let me know. I'm also open to new group suggestions if anyone has any.

    **Important**When you post you picture please state what region you think they should be in as well as what rough group you think they would suit (Celtic, Germanic, Greek, Iranian etc). This will help if I ever need to do some rearrangement of the regional groups.
    Also if you can give the exact place of origin for a face (like "Yemen" or "Poland") then do so but this is by no means essential and would just be a bonus.**Important**

    Finally

    **!!PLEASE POST YOU PICTURES AS LINKS!!**

    This prevents the thread from having ridiculous loading times due to multiple pictures trying to load when opened.

    Really Finally
    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    For most of the regions in the EB map people would look very similar to how they looked in 272bc.
    The EB historians are the ones who will pick which faces go to which peoples, so rest assured they won't choose a face that doesn't match up historically.
    Can people please stop asking this question now.

    Bobbin
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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Tux's Requirments
    Quote Originally Posted by Tux
    To create realistic and quick faces we prefer to use pictures from real persons and modify them by adding beards, scars and other features. Thus to help our work we need pictures that satisfy some requierements:

    -the picture should have an resolution of at least 240*300(of the head area);
    -there shouldn't any lights that light only part of the face;
    -the angle on which you view the face should be straight; (

    Some optional requierments:
    -they should have their mouth closed
    -eyes should be open

    And here's an example that:


    And what was obtained using it:



    Tux
    *Note: Click on the images to see the size needed*

    On top of what Tux suggested I recommend that the face should be relatively unobscured by things such as hair and other objects (Beards are fine though) and obviously no things things such as glasses or sunshades. Photos should also be in colour.

    On a final note feel free to send in your own face along with any others if you wish and if your lucky it might end up in the mod.
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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Keep in mind that populations do move around though. A Tunisian EB player probably wouldn't look anything like a Carthaginian.
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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Actually most Tunisians would look quite similar to the majority of the Carthaginian population and their soldiers (ie Bebers) as genetically little has changed.
    In most cases the underlying gentics of a region is rarely affected by invasion and migration all that happens is people start to identify themselves with the newcomers and abandon their old ethnic identity, Britons despite seeing multiple migrations and invasions share at very least 50% and usually much more of thier genes with the orginal settlers of the island, same goes for Turkey where dispite the majority of the popuation identifying as Turkish genetically their little different from the people of Anatolia in EB's timeframe.


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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Really? Well, excluding my poor example, what about all those tribes that were forcefully pushed out by the huns?
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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    too few to make a difference. The reason they're pushed out cuz they're not dead, the Huns killed them all.




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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Well the Huns didn't have much of an impact otherwise whole areas of eastern europe would have mongolian features, plus they didn't drive out the entire population of a region when they took over and large parts of their armies were other european tribes that would have looked similar to to the conquered people. Even in France which bore the brunt of the migration period the genetics didn't change by that much.

    Have a look at the demographic's section in most countries Wiki pages and there will usually be a little bit about population genetics.

    This page also has some interesting maps showing the various distrubutions of genetic halotypes in europe and their origins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    Actually most Tunisians would look quite similar to the majority of the Carthaginian population and their soldiers (ie Bebers) as genetically little has changed.
    In most cases the underlying gentics of a region is rarely affected by invasion and migration all that happens is people start to identify themselves with the newcomers and abandon their old ethnic identity, Britons despite seeing multiple migrations and invasions share at very least 50% and usually much more of thier genes with the orginal settlers of the island, same goes for Turkey where dispite the majority of the popuation identifying as Turkish genetically their little different from the people of Anatolia in EB's timeframe.
    even if the underlying genetics are fairly consistent, it does not take require a big influx to make a big impact - particularly if the phenotype of the new stock is very distinct.

    Consider for example what happens when you mix some of black African descent with a European. The typical black african features e.g skin colour, hair type, facial features are quite strong and distinct from those of a european. In a practical sense this means that if you had only one black grandparent your lineage would still be obvious.

    this is particularly pertinent in North Africa, where there has been a considerable intermixing with people of sub- saharan (e.g "black" african) descent over the past 2000yrs, and particularly since the arrival of islam. This is particularly obvious in Egypt which has always had strong links to sub saharan africa, and in morrocco where there was a deliberate use of black slave armies.

    This influx would have occured on a much smaller scale in the time of E.b and it is fair to say that in many instances North Africans no longer resemble the peoples who inhabited that region in the time frame of Eb

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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Quote Originally Posted by KARTLOS View Post
    even if the underlying genetics are fairly consistent, it does not take require a big influx to make a big impact - particularly if the phenotype of the new stock is very distinct.

    Consider for example what happens when you mix some of black African descent with a European. The typical black african features e.g skin colour, hair type, facial features are quite strong and distinct from those of a european. In a practical sense this means that if you had only one black grandparent your lineage would still be obvious.

    this is particularly pertinent in North Africa, where there has been a considerable intermixing with people of sub- saharan (e.g "black" african) descent over the past 2000yrs, and particularly since the arrival of islam. This is particularly obvious in Egypt which has always had strong links to sub saharan africa, and in morrocco where there was a deliberate use of black slave armies.

    This influx would have occured on a much smaller scale in the time of E.b and it is fair to say that in many instances North Africans no longer resemble the peoples who inhabited that region in the time frame of Eb
    I wouldnt agree with that, while i'm sure there are some people and some areas that have noticable african descent the large majority of north africans would look similar to those in EB's timeframe as the numbers moving into the region would be too small to drasticly effect the look of the people.
    As for the black grandparent thing you'd be surprised how quickly such noticable features can disappear, a friend of my mother's didn't even know that his great-grandfather was Tamil until he saw an old family photograph with him in, up until that point he thought he was 100% British.

    Anyway its all beside the point as this is just a database, the EB skinners will decide what faces to use and will no doubt pick the most appropriate.


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    I am no expert in this, but have observed when traveling.

    I lived in Thessaloniki for a year, many of the "Greeks" looks like Turks to me. (typical big Turkish nose and more dark skin tone).

    I meet some Greeks from outlying mountain regions of Crete, and they look nothing like the modern Turkish Greek person (semi straight Greek nose, many different types of hair color, lighter skin tone).

    Don't use a modern Greek Turks to represent classical Greek's?

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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    What's up with these two? Notice the thing on their foreheads? The first is from Azerbaijan, and the second Egyptian...


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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Woah, that is weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Woah, that is weird
    if you mean the mark on the forehead, then that's because they are Shia.

    @Bobbin: the first guy was Kuwaiti (he's dead now), the second is the current ruler of the Emirates, adn the third? I dunno.

    also, the syrian guy you had is also good for the arabs. yes-there are arabs from the region with brown hair. In fact, any semetic face will do, so long as its not from Ethiopia.
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    Not to rain on your parade, but Egyptians (your pics here) of today are arabs. The Egyptians of antiquity were not arabs. I think they closest one you can get is to find some pictures of Copts, they are supposed to be descendants of native Egyptian people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tretii View Post
    Not to rain on your parade, but Egyptians (your pics here) of today are arabs. The Egyptians of antiquity were not arabs. I think they closest one you can get is to find some pictures of Copts, they are supposed to be descendants of native Egyptian people.
    actually, no, they mostly aren't of arab decent. most Egyptians in the middle ages adopted the names of their overloards, who were a minority of the population at best.

    there were simply never enough of them to change the general appearence of Egyptians*. even in Arabia, the character of the population is (mostly) different from ancient times, since the Arabs loved to import east africans slaves, whom they often had kids/ intermarried with. the only idea IIRC of how the ancient might have looked is with the Nomadic tribes and aristocracies of the peninsula-Arabs traditionally judged your eminency by how "pure" you are. its why many tribes today are inbred. look up Antara ibn shadded for an example of what happens when you aren't "pure".**

    and yes, I included every possible spectrum of color I could find: from very light to Olive colored. I even made sure that the sample had African admixture, to reflect the slave trade's effects on the population. (PS: thanks to whoever found the picture of that yemeni man.)

    and yes, Copts do resemble the above people-I had quite a few coptic friends in Kuwait.

    *nor did they go about slaughtering them..
    **no, I on't support these practices, but knowlge of them can help make EB accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reshey View Post
    I am no expert in this, but have observed when traveling.

    I lived in Thessaloniki for a year, many of the "Greeks" looks like Turks to me. (typical big Turkish nose and more dark skin tone).

    I meet some Greeks from outlying mountain regions of Crete, and they look nothing like the modern Turkish Greek person (semi straight Greek nose, many different types of hair color, lighter skin tone).

    Don't use a modern Greek Turks to represent classical Greek's?
    I think you want to be careful not to include actual turkic faces. The guy you have for turkey doesn't actually look very turkic, but the azeris do, but in EB timeframe practically all turks were still in north eastern asian steppe. (also that guy you have for syria looks positively Afghan)
    @Reshey, when i was in Izmir last summer, I thought that many people looked quite Greek! (lighter hair, different skin colour)
    big nose? Practically all my family are rather turkic-looking and none of us have big noses! :p

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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    Quote Originally Posted by AncientFanTR View Post
    I think you want to be careful not to include actual turkic faces. The guy you have for turkey doesn't actually look very turkic, but the azeris do, but in EB timeframe practically all turks were still in north eastern asian steppe. (also that guy you have for syria looks positively Afghan)
    @Reshey, when i was in Izmir last summer, I thought that many people looked quite Greek! (lighter hair, different skin colour)
    big nose? Practically all my family are rather turkic-looking and none of us have big noses! :p
    The Turkic migrations had little impact gentically speaking anywhere west of Uzbekistan as those regions (Iran, Iraq, Caucasus, Anatolia, Greece etc) had high populations that were able to adsorb the incoming migrants (who would have become quite mixed already).
    A Genetic Landscape Reshaped by Recent Events: Y-Chromosomal Insights into Central Asia.
    The upshot of this is that for most of the regions in the EB map people would look very similar to how they looked in 272bc.
    The EB historians are the ones who will pick which faces go to which peoples, so rest assured they won't choose a face that doesn't match up historically.
    Can people please stop asking this question now

    @Iraklis: Do you have a photo that is more face on and more evenly lit? could also be a bit bigger too.
    Last edited by bobbin; 11-18-2009 at 11:43.


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    I am sorry, let me get it straight - can we actually post OUR faces, not the faces we found on the net?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tretii View Post
    I am sorry, let me get it straight - can we actually post OUR faces, not the faces we found on the net?
    Yes your actively encouraged to!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tretii View Post
    Not to rain on your parade, but Egyptians (your pics here) of today are arabs. The Egyptians of antiquity were not arabs. I think they closest one you can get is to find some pictures of Copts, they are supposed to be descendants of native Egyptian people.
    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    The upshot of this is that for most of the regions in the EB map people would look very similar to how they looked in 272bc.
    The EB historians are the ones who will pick which faces go to which peoples, so rest assured they won't choose a face that doesn't match up historically.
    Can people please stop asking this question now.

    Also seem to have run into a problem with the hitting the max number of pictures allowed in one post, trying to sort this at the moment.


    Edit: On some advice from Ludens I'm recommending people should post thier pictures as links from now on, I've changed the starting post accordingly as well
    Last edited by bobbin; 11-18-2009 at 12:51.


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    Fixed

    Thanks for the link Subotan.


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    Hello
    I'd like to post a piscture of mine, but lost all my kinks to the site that publishes them, I've even forgotten their name. Could someone please give me a link to their homepage, I recall their pages were white with orange "bars" (for lack of a better word ). the page always said image sharing something....
    thanks in advance for th help!


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    Default Re: The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

    https://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1573/ebface.jpg
    I know I'm young and Turkish, but I kinda want my face on EB2 and I've been growing my hair for some time: it looks quite unkempt and I have been practicing my "crazy face" I thought it could maybe be used for some of the younger nomad troops, like less experienced saka horsearchers etc. (perhaps even german javelineers or sumthin like that?)
    (maybe it needs a bit of photoshopping etc, I dunno!)

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    Thank you Kelarchos & AncientFanTR, your pics have been added.
    Last edited by bobbin; 11-20-2009 at 00:03.


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    "They told him to throw down his sword and return to the earth. Hah! Time enough for the earth in the grave."

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    Nice pictures man ! thank you.

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    GOD DAMN !!! CONNERY'S FACE MUST MAKE IT TO EB II !!! IT MUST !!!
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