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    Greeting Europa Barbarorum fans.


    One of the new features presented in Medieval II: Total War, and actually a feature recovered from the much loved Shogun: Total War, are the assassination and spying videos.

    In Europa Barbarorum II these videos will be brought back to the Classical era of antiquity with live action video from hard working volunteers. Fans will be greeted with Roman assassins, Greek diplomats and Nomad spies. What Europa Barbarorum needs now for these videos are script ideas. We have many already but are in need of more.

    Thus we will be holding a competition for accepting examples from historical sources of spying, sabotage and assassination. Everyone is invited to present examples together with the source from which it came. The contest will close on April 20th and the examples accepted will be announced and those who gave them added to the credits.

    Video submissions will also be accepted if you are so ambitious but there is no guarantee they will be used, and if they are it will likely be parts of them, clips used to supplement the videos we make. Any videos submitted here will be reckoned EB property to use as we choose. Please include credits with any video submission.



    The videos are divided first by type, spying, sabotage and assassination, then by culture, which is determined by the culture of the agent, not the victim. This means that the videos will have to be somewhat generalized based on the most likely victims for each culture group. The heavy Hellenization of the Mediterranean should help with this. So for each of the 7 cultures there are 3 video types, each with 3-4 possibilities which may include a specifically outdoor possibility. Thus the number of videos will total somewhere around 60-70, each with 2-3 endings. Each video is divided into 3-4 parts. The most important are the 'Main', the opening of that video, 'Success', wherein the agent accomplishes their mission, and 'Failure', wherein the agent does not achieve their objective, but survives. Most videos also include the ending 'Death', wherein the agent fails and dies in action.

    A reminder of the cultures in EBII; Roman, Semitic, West Hellenic, East Hellenic, Eastern, Nomad and Barbarian.
    Culture Types Agent Types Mission Types Video Parts
    Roman Spy Infiltrate Town Main
    Semitic . Infiltrate Army Success
    Eastern Assassin Assassinate Failure
    East Hellenic . Sabotage Death
    Nomad . .
    Barbarian . . .
    West Hellenic . . .

    Factions by Culture:
    Semitic: Carthage, Saba, Numidia
    Roman: Rome
    Barbarian: Sweboz, Iberians, British, Gauls, Boii and Getai
    West Hellenic: Makedonia, KH, Epeiros
    East Hellenic: Seleukids, Ptolemies, Baktria, Pergamon, Bosphorus
    Eastern: Pontus, Hayasdan
    Nomad: Saka, Sauromatae, Pahlava

    All the research into the mechanics of the videos in Medieval II: Total War has been done by Tanit, whose main skills lie largely in the research and writing department. Thus if anyone in the community has discovered more about these videos and their mechanics please feel free to correct us, thus aiding in the development of EB2.



    The Rules

    1. No Spam will be tolerated. Spurious, "funny", or obscene posts will be deleted and the poster reported to global moderators if necessary. If the Team's time is wasted on policing juvenile spam, the project will be abandoned and the thread locked and/or deleted.

    2. Look at the examples already proposed in earlier posts. Posting something that is already there just wastes everyone's time. A search of the thread will help determine if your idea has already been posted.

    3. The Team will decide which examples will be included. There may be an upper limit to how many are possible, and overall balance will also be a consideration. Ultimately, we'll decide what goes in the release, although anyone can modify their own version if they wish.

    4. Do the Research. Don't just post a random example- we need some information about whatever it is you think should be included. Examples from somewhat before or after our time period are still acceptable, though will be subject to the discretion of the team.

    5. Be Original. Do not just copy and paste Wikipedia articles- if you care enough about a cool feature of the ancient world to suggest it to us, care enough to go into detail.

    6. Please Post Any Video Submissions as Links. This prevents the thread from having ridiculous loading times.



    The Pilot from November 13, 2009

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanit View Post
    Ok, I was unable to upload the videos because my version of Quicktime is out of date. But here are the links.

    Main - The start of the video which remains the same for all endings.
    http://emilyschooley.com/rome/main.mov

    Success - Wherein the victim is assassinated.
    http://emilyschooley.com/rome/win.mov

    Fail - Wherein victim lives and assassin escapes.
    http://emilyschooley.com/rome/fail.mov

    Death - Wherein victim lives and assassin dies.
    http://emilyschooley.com/rome/death.mov

    Some notes to keep in mind. First, this is a pilot, we were forced to shoot it with less preparation than we would have liked due to the increasingly colder weather here in Canada. But, seeing as its a pilot and not the final video we figured this was ok. Because it was cold our costumes were not perfect, for example we kept our pants and socks on. Also certain costume and weapon elements were poorly finished in order to be done on time.

    Second, I had a bunch of people quit on me last minute. Normally I would have scheduled a reshoot, but given the weather I just went ahead and shot the video with only three actors instead of six. This is not representative of what the videos would be like in the spring.

    Third. This video is not completely finished being edited yet (no credits) and has temporarily had music added to it, dunno why, but it will not be there, or will be replaced by EB music in the end. Other than that, enjoy!

    The Victim


    The Assassin


    The Scythian Guard


    Credits:
    The Roman Assassin - Jeremy Landry
    The Hellenistic Victim - Tanit
    The Scythian Guard - TheEpigone
    Direction/Editing - Emily Schooley
    Filming - C. Edward Stewart
    Costumes/Props/Film Assistants - Tanit, TheEpigone, Dizzy, Andrew, Tally




    Some Examples:

    Not all cultures will have examples from literature or archaeology or either. The purpose of these examples is to get a feel of the strategies used in espionage and assassination in general in the ancient world. Examples from Hellenic or Latin literature may be used for Semitic or Gallic videos. The following quotes are examples of assassinations from literary sources, in this case The Jugurthine War by Gaius Crispus Sallust. Submissions may come in the form of your own words, images or quotations as long as their source is provided.

    XII. At that first meeting between the princes which I have mentioned, they had determined, as a safeguard against disputes, to divide the treasures and to settle the limits of their several dominions. A date was fixed for each of these measures, but the division of the money was to be made first. Meanwhile the princes retired to different places in the neighborhood of the treasury, and it so happened that Hiempsal, who was in the town of Thermida, occupied the house of a man who had acted as Jugurtha's nearest attendant, and had always been esteemed and favored by him. Finding this instrument offered him by chance, Jugurtha loaded him with promises, and induced him on pretense of visiting his own property to go to his house and procure copies of the keys to the gates, as the true ones were always delivered to Hiempsal; for the rest, he said, that on a fitting opportunity he would come in person with a strong body of followers. The Numidian soon executed his orders, and, according to his instructions, admitted Jugurtha's soldiers by night. They burst into the house and searched for the king in every direction, killing some of his attendants as they slept and others as they ran out to mmet them, ransacking every recess, breaking bars and bolts, and with their noise and tumult causing a general confusion. In the midst of this, Hiempsal was found hiding in the hut of a female slave, whither at the outset he had fled in his fright and ignorance of the place. The Numidians, according to their orders, conveyed his head to Jugurtha. - From Gaius Crispus Sallust's The Jugurthine War
    XXXV. There was at this time in Rome a certain Numidian, by name Massiva, a son of Gulassa, and grandson of Massinissa. In the struggle between the kings he had opposed Jugurtha, and, on the surrender of Cirta and murder of Adherbal, had fled from his country into exile. Spurius Albinus, consul with Quintus Minucius Rufus in the year after Bestia, now persuaded him, since he was of the stock of Massinissa, and Jugurtha for his crimes was loaded with odium and fear, to beg the kingdom of Numidia from the Senate. The consul was eager to conduct a war, and so preferred a general agitation to letting the matter lose its interest; for the province of Numidia had fallen to himself; that of Macedonia to Minucius. On Massiva beginning to stir in the matter, Jugurtha, who found no sufficient defense in his friends, some of them were embarrassed by their consciousness of guilt, others by their ill repute or their own fears, ordered Bomilcar, his most intimate and trusty attendant, to employ the bribery by which he had accomplished so much, in hiring assassins to attack Massiva, and to kill the Numidian, secretly if he could, or, failing this, by any means whatever. Bomilcar speedily carried out the king's commands, and, by means of men skilled in such business, gained information as to his victim's journeys and departures, and, in fine, as to all the places he was in the habit of frequenting, and the hours which he observed. He then directed the attack as the circumstances made advisable. One of the band who were hired to commit the murder rushed upon Massiva somewhat hastily, and though he cut him down, was himself seized. At the instance of many advisers, and especially of the Consul Albinus, this man turned informer, and Bomilcar was made to stand a trial, rather on considerations of equity than by the law of nations, since he was in attendance on one who had come to Rome under the public guarantee. Though detected in so great a crime, Jugurtha did not abandon the struggle against facts until he perceived that the odium of his deed was too great for either influence or money to overcome. On the first hearing of the case he had given fifty sureties from his friends, but now, thinking more of his kingdom than his sureties, he privily dispatched Bomilcar to Numidia, in the fear that, should he be punished, the rest of his accomplices might be seized with a dread of obeying him. A few days afterwards he himself set out on the same journey, as he was commanded by the Senate to leave Italy. When he had passed out of Rome, he is said, after often looking back on it in silence, at last to have cried: "A city for sale, soon to fall if once it find a buyer." - From Gaius Crispus Sallust's The Jugurthine War


    We hope you enjoy this preview of one of EB II's features.

    Please note that unless stated otherwise, ALL pictures, names, and descriptions shown in our previews are works in progress. We continue to improve on all parts of EB II, and we will continue to do so long after our initial release.

    As always, if you have questions or comments, the best place to post them is here, where the EB team is most active:

    Europa Barbarorum ORG forum

    Europa Barbarorum TWC forum

    Or PM Tanit directly.

    We give special thanks to Imagehost and Image Shack, which provide us with a simple, foolproof, free and secure way to show you all these pictures.

    Have a great day!

    Regards,

    The Europa Barbarorum team.

    Last edited by Tanit; 03-31-2010 at 00:42.



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