The first election of the Naib.
A lot of noise by The Stranger, who kinda dominated the debates. Well, not really dominated, he was just, eh, very present and enthusiastic.
Secura got selected as Naib. Nice to see one of the newer players grabbing this position. Will all the female players stick together in this game? Will girl power defeat the evil vampires and show the masculin players how this game is supposed to be played?
We’ll probably learn all about it on Kage’s new televions station
32 out of 40 voted, not bad, but there’s room for improvement. Yes, I’m demanding
johnhuhghtom pm’ed me four names. Random.org decided that the slaves will be Kagemusha and Romanic. This is Romanics’ first large game at the .Org, if I’m not mistaken. Should be interesting. I still remember PK getting a crucial role in his very first mafia game, Trapped in Taormina, hosted by yours truly and he managed to pull off a victory!
A new player and two experienced “survivors”, i.e. players who tend to stay alive until the endgame. Nice team.
Of course, they don’t know much about the secret role…
Caine aka Kukri follows tradition and investigates GH and Sasaki, who are both innocent townies.
Secura orders Beskar to protect Renata. At this stage of the game, succesfully protecting somebody is a matter of being very lucky. This protection ability will become more and more important the more the game progresses. For now, it’s just a matter of being lucky or not.
Romanic used random.org to decide his kill choice and he came up with autolycus who wanted to be replaced. Funny. I wonder what they’ll make of it. It makes the mafia appear as very sportsmanslike fellows.
Bad luck for DiY, who is first on the replacement list and eager to play. He’ll have to wait until someone else wishes to quit. I’m curious if the town will pay attention to this kill choice. After all, it could be interpreted as a noble mafioso killing the townie who no longer wishes to play.
Kagemusha wants to kill Yaropolk. His motives are ”Shadow Fort”; something tells me I should have participated in that game…
The Stranger got some votes, as could be expected, given his talkative nature. I think he’ll stay alive until midgame if he survives this round.
Don’t really understand the bandwagon on Csargo. Why are they lynching him? Because he tends to survive long and having Csargo in the end-game is confusing? Becaue he won Swords in the Moon?
Heck, if the game continues with only a few players alive, it’s always confusing, certainly in a game like this, with no more than four roles on 40 players. Anyone reaching endgame will be a possible suspect. The reason s for lynching Csargo seem rubbish to me, but it seems like he’ll be the one to go.
No pm from Secura, so will have to do lynch write-up myself.
I think I can come up something that will motivate the Naib and future Naibs to make sure they pm me with something for the lynch
Kukri investigates the “big talkers” Renata and Pizza. Both are innocent.
The vampire team will kill Chaotix and Centurion1. Good choices for early game, imo.
ATPG is right about Kage using the Sahara news as cover; allthough Kage already started with it before he was chosen as slave. If Kage survives the game, then some people will be very frustrated when looking back at this day phase. They had him by his “titanium testicles” for a short while, but let him go.
A wee bit pressure on Romanic, but he handles himself perfectly. I’m getting memories about PK winning Taormina as a completely new player.
No suspicion on johnhughthom whatsoever. They’ll probably let him off the hook during his week absence. If only he manages to post in at least one day phase to avoid being replaced. I’ll keep my thumbs up that you’ll have internet on your holiday, john.
Currently, Pizza is in the lead with 5 votes. I’m a bit concerned by the low number of people actually voting. I hope more players will get active. I still have a couple of people on the replacement list, but it’s not endless and I’d hate to have more than 3 or 4 WoG’s.
Well, that’s it, Pizza gets lynched. Secura wants Sasaki to help. Let’s see what we can make of this.
Probably not what she had in mind
Not much time to follow the game; week-end is busy.
Ibn-Khaldun and Psychonaut die tonight. Killing Psycho might be an error, it’s always good to keep him around until late midgame, he has a tendency to end up lynched.
Secura has no luck with her protections.
Kukri investigates TheFlax and DiY. Both are innocent.
Org is lagging at a very inconvenient time for me. This is driving me crazy.
Hmmm, Psychonaut names Romanic as a possible suspect and ATPG names both Romanic and Kage in the same post. Let’s hope people don’t catch up on that, I don’t want this one to end prematurely…
Luckily for our mafiosi, TS draws so much attention to him that Pscyho and ATPG are completely being ignored.
It’s going between the lurker Seon and the spamme…, eh, I mean, active and enthusiastic contributor, The Stranger. Seon voted himself and everybody seems to think it’s a tie. They are mistaken, Seon has one vote more than TS. If Seon doesn’t manage to get back in time, he’ll get lynched by his own vote.
Secura pm’ed me to say that in case of a tie, Seon gets lynched.
Seon isn’t back in time, so he gets the noose.
A little suspicion has been cast on the two henchmen, I’m wondering if they’ll get more attention next round.
Mafiosi make interesting kill choices: Sasak and ‘khaan. Refreshing choices; I think it’s good the mafia is making unusual kills, it’s boring to have the same 15 or so players in the end game every game. And I guess they’re speculating on Sasaki losing attention after dead.
Kukri investigates split and Jolt. Understandable choices; both would be good candidates for henchmen, but no cigar, dear Caine. So far, Kukri has played a perfect game; as good as no suspicion whatsoever and nicely flying under the radar. Of course, in these games, things can change drastically in no morebut one round, but I think Kukri will makeit far into this game. He and johnhughthom are worthy adversaries in avoiding suspicion. The only flaw in Kukri’s play style is that he risks that eventually will call him out on his semi-lurking and then he’ll have to take a stance. I hope he read the thread and pays good attention so that, if the need is there, he can defend himself.
Renata has TinCow protecting Diana Abnoba; I wonder how Scienter likes that
Hmmm, it seems like making fun of Sasaki Kojiro using the Miyamoto Mushashi theme has struck a nerve…
Nananana, Mushashi won, nananana
Anyway, both Sasaki and ‘khaan think this was a GeneralHankerchief move. Ha! Traditionalists! As if GH is the only one capable of doing that. Alas, guys, you’re wrong.
So far, Sasaki is calling several players scum; maybe he’s just looking for reactions, but it isn’t helping much, I think.
I think Scienter will be lynched in this game eventually, several people are commenting on her. I’d like to see how she handles herself under pressure. I think this one is to be feared once she gets a mafia role.
But of course, paranoid town will lynch GH first, simply because Sasaki and ‘khaan got killed. Gah. I never really believed in looking at the kill choices to catch scum.
Psycho nor ATPG are mentioning their suspicion about Kage and Romanic from the previous round.
Are the slaves off the hook?
If people keep focusing on GH-TC-Scienter, then our mafiosi are safe for a while. All in all, a good round for our villains.
A pity GeneralHankerchief will be taking a time off from mafia, but I’m sure it’ll be temporary. He wants to get burned in his lynch scene, while smiling sadly. Let’s see what we can do with that; I hope he’ll like the result.
Enjoy the break, but please, come back soon, dear GH; the Gameroom isn’t the same without you
But the game continues…
Who will get killed tonight?
Peasant Phill and Death is yonder. Peasant Phill seems a good kill choice, no suspicion on him, doesn’t post much, but makes good analysis. Hementioned he didn’t have too much time to dedicate on the game, so activity will probably drop after dead. Understandable choice. I feel a bit sorry for DiY, since he entered the game as a replacement and he really wanted to play, but it’s an understandable choice. His play doesn’t draw much suspicion on him and he’s paying attention to the game, analysing behaviour. I think the mafia made good kill choices here. Low profile players, not scummy and making good analysis. It’s the kind of play that gets you killed.
Kukrikhan investigates the innocent Scienter and… Kagemusha! He’s found himself his first slave. I wonder what he’ll do with this information next night. Will he calmly keep investigating until he finds his nemesis, Nikolaos, or will he take out Kage at night? Looking forward to next night.
Wow, Romanic suddenly starts to feel pressure. And Kage is being under suspicion as well. Interesting, but things can change fast in this game.
Post #907 by Renata is a great post. But will she be able to convince the town?
It’s starting to look very bad for Romanic, I’m afraid the mafia will lose its’ first member. It’s still pretty early in the game.
But Romanic is doing very, very well. Are you really that new to mafia? Keep this up and you’ll be the revelation of the year? Or will it be Renata? Niklas, DiamondEye and Secura also made good impressions on me in previous games. Our newer members are all assets
The future of the GR seems assured. Nice.
And see, not only does Romanic defends himself brilliantly, he also manages to get the town vote for the one he switched his vote to! There goes White_Eyes:D… And Romanic lives to fight another day.
This round started terrible for the mafia, but all ended well.
What did I say about things changing fast in these games?
Very well played, Romanic
And now up to an interesting night; I wonder what Kukri will do.
No orders from Kukri Gah.
The slaves are having a discussion. Kage wants to kill YLC and Secura to makei t look as if the mafia tries to frame him. He hopes he’ll be able to use that to divert attention away from Romanic. He’s also convinced town won’t lynch him for it, because it would be too obvious a frame attempt.
Romanic isn’t too sure about it.
Diamondeye will be replacing johnhuhgthom; I really feel sorry for johnhughthom, but I have to replace him, otherwise, people will grow suspicious of him because he hasn’t been WoG’ed after an entire week of inactivity. So sorry about this.
I like Romanics’ way of thinking: trying to be elected as Naib and then blatantly use the vig kills and take the lynch after no longer being Naib. I like it, but I’m afraid it won’t happen with the suspicion already gathered by the slaves. And it’s not really an option for the Godfather, since he’ll end up lynched after his term as Naib. However, if DE manages to stay out of the spotlights, then he could try to get himself elected and win the game with the vig kills later on.
Renata protects Diana, no luck.
Romanic gets bandwagoned. It doesn’t seem like he’ll manage to escape death this time.
You did very well, good sir and it is a joy to have you in my game
But it’s not over yet and already you are developping plans and strategies to help your team after dead.
That’s the spirit! Kudos to you!
Never, ever give up. As long as the final write-up hasn’t been posted, the game is not over!
Will Renata come to the rescue with her case on atheotes? Too late, I’m afraid. There goes Romanic.
And Diana is the new Naib. Do I sense a female conspiracy here?
Aha, Renata is a Princess Bride fan. Great idea for a lynch write-up!
With Romanic down, team Nikolaos only has one kill and the resurrection mechanic will come to work, which means Kukri will get to kill starting next night. They’re discussing if they should use the extra Nikolaos kill to make it appear as if Romanic wasn’t scum. That’s one way of using it and it seems about the best way of using it too.
Funny: the Naib uses Kage to protect Diamondeye; of course, being ordered to protect doesn’t block the mafia, that would make town a bit too overpowered in a game with 3 mafia (of which one GF whose dead = defeat) + 1 extra bad guy vs. 36 townies with two vig kills and guaranteed protection every night at their disposal.
Kukri investigates for the last time (but he doesn’t know this yet): Diana and TC, both are innocents.
I want my orders and I want them now! Lazy vampire and slaves
Ok, just in time: Captain Blackadder and Greyblades go down.
Kukri got his pm in which he is granted the power of resurrection due to the dead of the first slave. It’s a game mechanic I developped to guarantee that the bad guys always have two kills. However, instead of the Godfather and his slaves having two kills, now one of their kills goes to Caine, their adversary. The write-ups of the “resurrection kills” will be very different, so I’m curious how town will respond to it.
Soon to be WoG’ed split gets voted. Town seems lazy, not much real discussion going on. Votes are switched to atheotes who doesn’t bother to show up today. Not a good round and a bit disappointing from the hosts’ perspective. We have what? Some 40 posts on 24 hours in a 40 player game? Meh. Then again, maybe I’m spoiled. Where are the days when a host was more than happy if his game ended with 900 à 1.000 posts. I think we’ll have far more than that in this game. I’m a spoiled brat.
Except for the mafia at their quicktopic, nobody bothered to mention the lightning storm. Did they read the write-up until the end? Was it not obvious enough?
Kukri decides to refrain from killing. Not a choice I would have made, but then again, the kills will go down to one and will be back up to two next night, so it’ll add to the speculation and drama, I hope (assuming Kukri will kill next night).
Team Nikolaos decides to take out Niklas.
Naib orders: Kukri will protect Choxorn. Again, an inconclusive protection.
I hope it gets better; town has been a bit lazy the last couple of days (yeah I’m spoiled and demanding)
With Kukri deciding not to kill, we’re down to 1 kill; I guess town will now be convinced atheotes was scum. Poor atheotes.
Hmmm… They are considering the possibility that the mafia deliberately dropped down to one kill to confuse town. It’s plausible and it has been done before (don’t remember in which game). Good. Allthough they’re wrong, I like to see a town that keeps all options open and refuses to let themselves be distracted too much. Focus on the thread behaviour. Forget the rest.
TinCow is right; don’t focus too much on the drop in kills. Even if you know for sure that atheotes is mafia, then that still doesn’t help you that much. Sure, you can try looking for connections; some mafiosi don’t pick on each other in the thread, others do exactly that to distance themselves from each other. I know several players who do that. Some players have done both. Allthough I’m guilty of doing it as well, basing your votes on connections with presumed scum, is not good. It’s better to analyse the player; if you find a connection with a confirmed scum, so much the better. However, in mafia games at the .Org, there hardly are confirmed scums; hosts here usually do not reveal roles upon death. So lynching someone because of a connection isn’t a good idea, since the person you’re conntecting the suspect to, might be an innocent player.
As TinCow says, at best, you can use it as “supporting evidence”. I think other players might disagree though; IIRC, Sasaki once said that looking for connections between people is one of his ways to find mafia.
How to find mafia based on thread behaviour is a fascinating question. It’s difficult and often more question of luck than skill, but some of us are good at it, so it must be possible to develop a certain skill in it. It makes vanilla games interesting, certainly when you’re nearing the endgame and every player has an air of scummines around him. Of course, not all vanilla games had great endgames, but think Godfather III and Mafia VI and you’ll know what I mean. I’m thinking Renata is pretty good at goo.
Enough rambling already, back to the game.
I think Kage is going to feel much pressure this round.
A bit bickering between Scienter and TinCow. Hey, don’t do this to me. I merely wanted to host a mafia game, not be the direct cause of marital issues
And Sasaki keeps spouting random accusations. Or will he make his move when we’re down to 10?
Allthough things are looking bad for Kage, nobody really suspects Kukri or Diamondeye. Good; hopefully the game will last for a couple of more rounds. That and the few surprises there are still to come should make for an interesting end game.
Kukri already pm’ed me that he wants to use his lynch redirect ability should Kage get the most votes. And an hour later, DE pm’ed me with a similar request. Kukri was first, so his order takes prevalence. Not only town, but Nikolaos and his slaves are in for a surprise! Good. The more chaos and confusion, the better!
Ah Romanic. Nice effort to try to get TheFlax lynched, but it’ll be in vain. But you can keep hammering on it and maybe you’ll succeed to convince the town to waste another lynch.
And there comes split, saving himself from the WoG; his vote for TheFlax looks scummy. I hope it won’t backlash to him. Ehm, no, who am I kidding, I have a soft spot for my mafiosi… Let it backlash and keep my mafiosi alive
Ok Sasaki, now I’m starting to think you’re just accusing everybody so that when the game ends, you can quote yourself and say “See! I knew it! I told you, but nobody wanted to listen to me, oh no!”
Ok, write-up time. They’ll be very surprised to see that Kage survives.
An interesting night!
TinCow is prosecuting The Stranger and builds up his case against him. Coincidentally, he’s going to die tonight.
Team Nikolaos makes a very wise choice for a kill: TinCow. Allthough TC had been under suspicion, it’s wearing off. With this kill, they don’t just take out a strong opponent, but they’ll make The Stranger look very, very scummy. TS has been annoying to many townies. That and the clear frustration he showed when TC was making his case, will make him look very bad now. Given his behaviour, people might think he is a mafia who got so fed up with TC’s pressure that he killed him, figuring he’d end up lynched anyway, so why not taking out his biggest opponent.
I don’t know if I’m allowed to play in Kage’s “Who’s next”, but my money is on The Stranger.
Kukrikhan resurrects atheotes to take Renata. Great. Renata was the one who wanted to see atheotes lynched and now he comes back for revenge. Nice.
The Naib will use a vigilante kill on Kukrikhan. There goes Caine, I’m afraid. The reserve GF dies before he can kick out the original GF.
This also means the power of resurrection will go to DE and he’ll be able to use it for the first time N10.
Town has 3 à 4 lynches and one vig attempt left to win this game. If they make a mistake with the vig, though, then they’ll lose a lynch round, I think. Whoever is Naib, will need nerves of steel to avoid using the vig too soon. They also have the protection thing, so if they’re lucky, they can slow down the mafia. Then again, there’s only one GF left to take down, so they have a good shot at winning this game.
The Stranger will get lynched for being annoying and… being alive? Not a good lynch imo; no mafioso would play like TS, that’s just too risky. They’re falling to easily for the mafia frame. Understandable, but still not a good lynch.
Nice lynch write-up by Diana, but it’s still a bit too soft. I’ll exaggerate a bit more
Ok, town, this is a question I need an answer to: why are you not using your vig kill on Kage? Why do you assume he’s the GF? Because of the lynch redirect? Wouldn’t that be a bit too easy for the GF to save himself using lynch redirect? At least using your vig on Kage is worth a try, isn’t it?
Diana : protects TheFlax
mafia kills Choxorn and Jolt; but good choices, none of them has gathered much suspicion so far.
10 alive, two scums. I prodded Double A the previous day. I have been VERY lenient, only because I’m out of replacements.
Note to all of you lurkers who usually end up getting WoG’ed: by doing so, your team loses an extra lynch opportunity. In games where there are not so many rules, having one less lynch can be fatal. Indeed, the endgame in these vanilla (or almost vanilla) games is where town wins; in the early rounds, it’s difficult to catch scum, mafia is usually found when the game is nearing its’ end. The lynch and the discussion is the towns’ best weapon and by getting yourself WoG’ed, you take away an opportunity for your team to win.
So yeah, I hold all you lurkers who got WoG’ed in the past responsible for quiet a few town defeats. How many games haven’t we seen where just that one more extra round would have made the difference between town defeat or victory.
You sign up, you play. Not playing is letting your team down and not very sportsmanslike either.
But enough with the ranting already, let’s see how this round goes.
Sasaki is right, Kage should be vigged, not lynched. The lynch didn’t work and you still have a vig at your disposal: make use of it!
Diamondeye seems to be ver y low on the suspect list. People are more thinking TheFlax and Beefy187. Why is being a replacement player equal to being innocent?
Activity is very, very low at the moment. Some players really need to put more effort in; if you reach the endgame, you need to play, it’s that simple.
Renata is very close with her theory in post #1582. She’s playing a good game, but I doubt people realise it. Note for the future: pay more attention to what this woman says. She’s good.
Beefy votes himself because he doesn’t want to be a distraction later on. People go for Kage again. I would do the same in their place (allthough I would be very frustratred that the vig isn’t been used on him), but it’s not going to work. It wasn’t intended to be that way, but with Kukri using his ability to save Kage the other day, he now gets saved twice. Town will hate it. I do hope they’ll try to use the vig on Kage; if only to have a more interesting endgame.
Not even two pages of posts this day. Not enough for a crucial phase. Did I mention already that I’m spoiled and demanding?
Town is also not keeping all options open. TheFlax, Beefy187 and Kage have gotten lots of attention, other players much less.
I don’t know what’s been going on behind the scenes, I hope they’re screening all other players as well.
In mafia, always leave all options open.
Lynch redirect from Kage to Scienter. They’ll start to hate me now.
However, I still think the game is pretty well balanced.
4 bad guys; always 2 kills a night, no matter what. Town only needs to lynch 2 of them: the GF (Nikolaos) and the “reserve GF” (Caine). Add to that the possiblity that mafia might cross kill (Kukri was pretty powerful and able to kill the slaves and Nikolaos all by himself; that they always have a doctor (ok, slight chance that mafia got elected as Naib) and two guaranteed succesful vig kills at their disposal. That and their numbers: on 40 players, 36 are town.
And Kage is still having fun as confirmed scum :laug4:
No matter who wins, you get the joker award in this game
And so, Kage is the chosen one. Unfortunately for town, the lynch is redirected again and there goes Scienter, poor girl. I guess I’ll have to wait for the next game to see how you handle pressure.
Ai, ai, ai. I think town makes a crucial mistake and decides to vig pevergreen. This move will probably cost you victory. I’m thinking something is going on behind the scenes and you’re on the wrong track. Of course, you can’t know what I know, but using the vig on Kage is worth a try, isn’t it?
Mafia hits Beefy187 and TheFlax, two of the more talkative of the remaning players. That leaves us with less talkative players, the scum and a Naib who isn’t allowed to vote. And no more vig kills at the towns’ disposal.
I hope they’ll go for the Kage lynch next day (it will succeed now), which should make for a very interesting final round (not that Kage doesn’t deserve to win, but I’d love to see an endgame with only a few alive; would they finally look at DE or is he “confirmed innocent” in the towns book?) Then again, maybe they won’t dare to lynch Kage now.
Ok. They now think Kage is lynch immune. That was to be expected. Should have vigged him.
Who will they turn to, now? Methos acted a bit scummy last night. Will he be the lynch? Or will it be the lurker Double A?
Post #1702 from Renata. Listen to her! She has been right on so many occasions in this game! I don’t know who is pulling the strings behind the scenes (if there is a behind the scenes going on, but I suspect as much), but next time, it should be Renata. She gets the Cassandra trophee for this game. She’s right, but nobody listens.
And there is Diana in post #1712 asking to lynch Kage. Ok, men, I think after this game, we have to admit that our cavemen tactics are far superior to the gentle female ruthless cunningness. If town would have listened to the ladies, the game would have lasted for another round with a chance to grab victory for town. Oh, Diana, don’t give up because some cavemen start yelling that Methos should go. Next time, be more confident in your own judgement! You’re right, the others are wrong!
Methos! Don’t give up! This is towns’ last chance. You need to post, kick a fuss, do all that’s possible to convince them you’re scum. Don’t vote yourself! Come on!
I’m starting to sound like a soccer coach, yelling at his team at the sidelines
And so it ends. Methos is lynched and the mafia wins.
Will I end it after I put up the night write-up or will I do something more cruel?
Pretending that the game still continues is more cruel than fake endings and it takes far less effort. Win-win. Well, from the evil and cruel hosts’ perspective, that is
Hilarious write-up from Diana and ATPG. Great stuff guys; it’s a joy to have you in my game!
Double A and split die at night.
Tomorrow Diana will be killed. Mafia can make their own write-up, give me a framework or give me carte blanche.
I’m hoping for a full write-up, I’m getting out of inspiration and the write-ups are getting time consuming. Somebody is in need of more Andres-attention, and she counts for two nowadays.
Final day; will post final write-up when we’re somewhere half way through.
And so what will probably be my last hosted large game at the .Org comes to an end.