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    Can we have hairier people in EBII? I can't be the only one who is disturbed by nippleless, body-waxed Gauls. no:

    Unless people were less hairy and nipples were pinker back then that is ;).
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    In the description for the Soap Maker it's explained that the Gauls and Germans used soap heavy with lye to get rid of their body hair, so it's actually correct to have hairless 'barbarians' as opposed to the flea infested, grimy, and excessively hairy barbarians of hollywood.
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    Hrmmm hairy chests would give me something to relate to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stratigos vasilios View Post
    Hrmmm hairy chests would give me something to relate to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snite View Post
    In the description for the Soap Maker it's explained that the Gauls and Germans used soap heavy with lye to get rid of their body hair, so it's actually correct to have hairless 'barbarians' as opposed to the flea infested, grimy, and excessively hairy barbarians of hollywood.
    Wow, I almost never read the building descriptions in EB, and I realize now that I've missed out on some interesting information as a result. Thank you for pointing this out. I do remember reading the description for one of the palace upgrades for Hayasdan (which I probably misspelled) which was rather funny; it marveled at the quantity of lamps rumored to lie within the palace.

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    Soap could cause less body hair? OMG? I mustn't take a bath for a week then, as I can't grow any except my head hair

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    I wasn't aware that lye removed nipples as well. What of other barechested units like Hindus and Getai though?
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    Just take a look at the preview of the Drapanai:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snite View Post
    In the description for the Soap Maker it's explained that the Gauls and Germans used soap heavy with lye to get rid of their body hair, so it's actually correct to have hairless 'barbarians' as opposed to the flea infested, grimy, and excessively hairy barbarians of hollywood.
    Interesting, might need some looking into for getting rid of body hair ;).

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    We make an extensive use of the variety brought by medieval2. In a basic unit of gauls, some guys are hairy, some are not, and some wear tunics or armours.
    edit : and they have nipples.
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    Why do they have spiky hairs? Botroas have such too in EB1 and I don't understand, they knew a wax-like material, or why is that?
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    the spiked hair of the guy to the left look like he is wearing some sort of crown
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    That bothred me too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apázlinemjó View Post
    Why do they have spiky hairs? Botroas have such too in EB1 and I don't understand, they knew a wax-like material, or why is that?
    Apparently. I can't give you a primary source, but I recall Adrian Goldsworthy mentioning that the Britons spiked their hair. They make the bearer look taller and more imposing, similar to the bearskins and mitres used by Napoleonic armies. It looks a bit ridiculous now, but it may appear very differently to you when you are standing in a battleline about to be charged by bloodthirsty Celts.
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    I recall Goldsworthy saying that as well, but it was thought they used lye to spike their hair, and if lye causes hair loss I cant imagine them using it very often. Maybe its not as strong if just used occasionally before battle? Where as the lye soap would be used more often on their bodies.
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    I think I remember reading in the Soap Maker description in EB 1 that they used soap to bleach and spike their hair.

    I recall Goldsworthy saying that as well, but it was thought they used lye to spike their hair, and if lye causes hair loss I cant imagine them using it very often. Maybe its not as strong if just used occasionally before battle? Where as the lye soap would be used more often on their bodies.
    Good question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    Apparently. I can't give you a primary source, but I recall Adrian Goldsworthy mentioning that the Britons spiked their hair. They make the bearer look taller and more imposing, similar to the bearskins and mitres used by Napoleonic armies. It looks a bit ridiculous now, but it may appear very differently to you when you are standing in a battleline about to be charged by bloodthirsty Celts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    I wasn't aware that lye removed nipples as well. What of other barechested units like Hindus and Getai though?
    IIRC, I think someone on the team once said that they tried to make chest hair for EB1 but it was too difficult/not possible to make it look acceptable, so they chose to go without it.

    The nipples were removed as part of the hidden censorship pack. They were simply considered too sexual for Americans in general; even moreso than the "Bananas Below", which is why this one wasn't optional. To avoid complaints from us Europeans, they chose to cover it up.

    Or so the conspiracy theory goes.
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    lol


    edit: and as you can see, nipples and hair will be present, at least on some units, in eb2. even belly buttons.
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    Yeah there is a popular stereotype in Europe that everybody in the USA is prude.
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    The hair... it is from the Simpsons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    The hair... it is from the Simpsons.
    Actually it's modelled after the hair of characters on "The Jersey Shore"
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    Good to see the chest hair left in.

    Aren't there multiple possible torsos? Any chance of the odd hairy back or even polythelia?

    Or would that be gilding the lily?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    The hair... it is from the Simpsons.


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    edit : nevermind
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    On another note, I was pretty impressed with the weapons wielded by the drapanai in the picture quoted above. The variety is impressive, and each individual weapon looks useable - or at least realistic :).

    They really look like berzerker peasant levies now, rather than some bare-chested no-daichi.

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    Thanks everyone for the great support, obviously comparing our work with Bart Simpson is trully inspiring...

    Now that this issue has been resolved, about the hairyness of units, someone please close the thread. Thanks!

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    Guys, I think you are taking those comments too seriously. It's just a joke.

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