Cuter Than Palin

[naut]

How seriously does anyone take feminists anyway, they are just people that need a problem.

Feminist fɛmənɪst noun

1. A person who supports the equality of women with men.
2. A member of a feminist political movement.
3. One who believes in the social, political, and economical equality of the sexes.

I guess you shouldn't take me seriously then.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I guess you shouldn't take me seriously then.

It's just the hardline femininists that go to the trouble of calling themselves feminists that insist on taking the underlined bits above to their natural conclusions, which doesn't work and ends up in stupidity. Women cannot be fully equal with men, they will never be as strong, for example (generally speaking).

The average person on the other had simply wants women to have the right to choose what they want to do with their life, whether it be pursuing a career or working in the kitchen. Because the reality is women, when given the choice, are going to be more likely than men to want to do the latter. It's not all social conditioning either, it's just biology.

[Fragony]

Ever heard a feminist getting worked up over the dominance of males picking up the trash it really doesn't represent society I feel it should be 50/50, can't all lead a multinational after all. We need a quotum, force it.

[gaelic cowboy]

There has been a bit of a flap over here cos two women politicians resigned from standing at the next election and there is no sign of a women to takeover. Apparently the solution is to create a list of women candidates at least thats what our "Betters" believe yes the smashing of democracy is how we shall ensure more representation of women in the Dail.

It will fail utterly to actually elect any of the women though of course as Irish politics is clientelist and parochial by nature, this is simply due to the fact we live in a small country. I could state on the org my inention to go to Offaly and have a chat with Brian Cowen tomorrow and there is a better than 60%-70% chance I could do it no hassle.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Yep, don't forget to fight gender discrimination by putting women into political office on merit of the fact that they are women.

[HoreTore]

Yep, don't forget to fight gender discrimination by putting women into political office on merit of the fact that they are women.

We did something similar here.

We forced all companies to have at least 40% of both sexes represented at the boards(which in practice meant increasing the percentage of women to 40), if not then they would be shut down. This applied to every company represented at the stock exchange. Of course, everyone on the right went nuts, saying that we should only select those who are qualified, that the women will be scorned, etc etc. You know, the normal hysteria.

But what actually happened? There was a time limit, I believe it was in 2008, and all the companies had a few years to comply. Naturally, some went about conforming quickly, others delayed. What's interesting, is that every company who got more women on their boards early performed better than those who delayed. The sooner you filled up with women, the better your company performed.


In conclusion: of course I believe that people should be chosen on their qualifications, not their sex or whatever. But I also believe that the people who own companies are completely incapable of selecting the best qualified people to be on their boards. And if they are forced to widen their pool of potential candidates and are forbidden to go with their first instincts, then they will be more likely to pick the best people. Because honestly, most business owners have shown themselves to be utterly incompetent.

[Rhyfelwyr]

So the ends justified the means. Meh, happens I guess.

[Strike For The South]

We forced all companies to have at least 40% of both sexes represented at the boards

Is this what Norway worries about?

[HoreTore]

So the ends justified the means. Meh, happens I guess.

As company owners have shown themselves to be completely incompetent when it comes to hiring people, the means are justified on their own.

[Rhyfelwyr]

As company owners have shown themselves to be completely incompetent when it comes to hiring people, the means are justified on their own.

And the government is... competent?

[HoreTore]

And the government is... competent?

As this example shows:

At least more competent.




EDIT: Though to be fair, I have always viewed the government as competent, or competent enough anyway. There is certainly no less waste of resources in the government than there has been in the other places I've worked, Shell and Autolink in particular. Shell has a bureaucracy that would've made Lenin blush, while Autolink has a policy of paying double wages for labour working at 50%.....

EDIT AGAIN: This excludes the military of course, nobody can compete with that retarded organization when it comes to wasting stuff. But then again, the entire military is waste, so........

[Moros]

Companies who prepare early to achieve new government sanctioned quota, seem to be lead effectively. Naturally those do better overall...

[gaelic cowboy]

The workers in the sugar plant in Mallow probably would disagree on the government competence angle.

Greencore sugar plant closure 'not necessary'

The European Court of Auditors has found that the closure of the Greencore sugar plant in Mallow in 2006 may not have been necessary.

The European Court of Auditors has found that the closure of the Greencore sugar plant in Mallow in 2006, with the loss of 240 jobs, may not have been necessary.
The closure came about as a result of a major restructuring of the EU sugar sector following world trade rulings and a drive to make the sector more competitive.
But in a highly critical report published this afternoon the Court of Auditors says that the European Commission was using out of date information, that overall sugar production had become less competitive as a result of the reforms, and that the cut in prices was not passed on to consumers.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Ireland's member of the European Court of Auditors, Eoin O'Shea, told RTÉ News: 'It's possible that [the Greencore Plant] would still be operating today if it were not for the sugar reforms introduced by the European Commission.'
In 2005 and 2006, the EU negotiated a major reform of the sugar sector partly because subsidised European production allegedly hurt small producers in the developing world.
The plan was to reduce production by 6m tonnes or 30% by 2010 and it was partly done by cutting the price of sugar by 36%.
At the time, there were 285,000 sugar beet growers in the EU, a figure that has since been reduced to 164,000.
In all 75 sugar factories, including the Greencore plant, closed with the loss of 20,000 jobs.
According to the report into the sector by the Luxembourg-based European Court of Auditors, Ireland was the only member state with just one factory to close.
It described the factory as 'large, modern and potentially efficient'.
The European Commission had argued at the time that only factories that became unprofitable after the price cuts were implemented would have closed.
However, today's report shows that 'no comparison of the productivity of individual producers or factories was available'.
It also showed that the Commission was using data from 2001 and that it had not taken account of changes within the Greencore operation when its proposal was made in 2005.
Overall, the report says, sugar production was not made more competitive. It is now controlled by a small few - 75% of the EU's production is now carried out by only six industrial groups.
It says that ultimately the EU has had to become a net importer of sugar, whereas before it was a net exporter. It also said that reductions in the bulk price of sugar were not passed on to the consumer.
Ireland received €213m in restructuring aid after the closure of the Greencore plant, in which 240 factory workers and 3,700 growers lost their jobs.
At the time, much of the debate during the negotiations between member states and the European Commission was over compensation and how much should be shared between Greencore and the workers.
Some Irish farmers fought for the plant to be kept open, while others focussed on what compensation could be achieved.
Ireland East MEP Mairead McGuinness said: 'It is very clear that the Commission has questions to answer arising from the Court of Auditors report. Lessons need to be learned.
'The sugar reforms resulted in the complete loss of the Irish sugar industry.'
Fine Gael Agriculture, Fisheries and Food Spokesperson Andrew Doyle said the report leads to the inescapable conclusion that the Government of the time was asleep at the wheel.
Labour Agriculture Spokesperson Sean Sherlock said that in the wake of the finding, serious questions arise as to the suitability of Mary Coughlan for high office.

[Fragony]

Is this what Norway worries about?

Euro thingie, everything MUST BE A REPRESENTATION OF SOCIETY. Under labour it went so far here that you couldn't get a promotion at (highest levels of) the police if you are a white male, no matter how qualified. Nope that is not rightwing bull that was policy, that's what they care about ES MUSS SEIN

[HoreTore]

Euro thingie, everything MUST BE A REPRESENTATION OF SOCIETY. Under labour it went so far here that you couldn't get a promotion at (highest levels of) the police if you are a white male, no matter how qualified. Nope that is not rightwing bull that was policy, that's what they care about ES MUSS SEIN

.....And it resulted in companies performing better. Explain how that is bad, Frags?

[Fragony]

.....And it resulted in companies performing better.

Says who, exactly. That's like asking the IPCC if the earth is warming up. If they are qualified they'll get there.

[HoreTore]

Says who, exactly.

The people who count the money they made from said companies.

Checking whether a stock goes up or down is actually rather easy to check....

[Fragony]

The people who count the money they made from said companies.

Checking whether a stock goes up or down is actually rather easy to check....

And cherry-picked molded if you have a cause, show me something real

[HoreTore]

And cherry-picked molded if you have a cause, show me something real

.....are you accusing the stock exchange of favouring feminism....?

[The Stranger]

say what you want... but royalty pwns!

http://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=h...1t:429,r:3,s:0

[Rhyfelwyr]

"Norwegian Princess Martha Louise has announced that she is clairvoyant and wants to help people by teaching them how to talk to angels."

Seems the effects of inbreeding were less visible in this one...

[The Stranger]

who cares that shes crazy as long as shes hot... no one cared that angelina jolie was crazy as a stick...

[HoreTore]

who cares that shes crazy as long as shes hot... no one cared that angelina jolie was crazy as a stick...

She's not "hot" in any way either, she's just a mental pasient unaware of her condition. A sad thing, really.

[The Stranger]

well... she used to be sexy XD on the screen anyway. or are you talking about the princess now?

[HoreTore]

well... she used to be sexy XD on the screen anyway. or are you talking about the princess now?

Yes, that was the lobotomized princess.

And don't you talk smack about my darling Angelina, she's coming to live with me after she's got Brad Pitt's money!!!!!

[The Stranger]

why is she crazy??? cuz she talks to angels... whatever half the globe hears voices. u know what is crazy? pretending to by normal, like everyone else...

[HoreTore]

why is she crazy??? cuz she talks to angels... whatever half the globe hears voices. u know what is crazy? pretending to by normal, like everyone else...

She has voices in her head, and they're not coming from anyone around her.

If that's not a sign of mental disorder, I don't know what is.

[The Stranger]

i dont see how that is a mental disorder. perhaps a mental deviation... its just labeled as a mental disorder. some people hear their own voices when they think some dont... who is to judge which one is sane and which one isnt...

perhaps her conclusion is farfetched but doesnt make her insane

[HoreTore]

i dont see how that is a mental disorder. perhaps a mental deviation... its just labeled as a mental disorder. some people hear their own voices when they think some dont... who is to judge which one is sane and which one isnt...

perhaps her conclusion is farfetched but doesnt make her insane

When you're convinced you can talk to fairytale creatures; yes, you are.

[The Stranger]

i never read the book :P have no intentions either... i wouldnt dismiss angels as fairy tale creatures only because you and i dont believe in them... oh well.. cant be bothered to defend her :P call her a loon all you want to but the pictures ive seen of her... she looked pretty beautiful on them XD