No, I'm not Really a Waiter...

[Louis VI the Fat]

No, I'm not really a waiter. That's just my day job. My real job is:

British-based men of Afghan origin are spending months at a time in Afghanistan fighting Nato forces before returning to the UK, the Guardian has learned. They also send money to the Taliban.

A Taliban fighter in Dhani-Ghorri in northern Afghanistan last month told the Guardian he lived most of the time in east London, but came to Afghanistan for three months of the year for combat.

"I work as a minicab driver," said the man, who has the rank of a mid-level Taliban commander. "I make good money there [in the UK], you know. But these people are my friends and my family and it's my duty to come to fight the jihad with them."

"There are many people like me in London," he added. "We collect money for the jihad all year and come and fight if we can."
His older brother, a senior cleric or mawlawi who also fought in Dhani-Ghorri, lives in London as well.

Intelligence officials have long suspected that British Muslims travel to Afghanistan and Pakistan each year to train with extremist groups.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...an-afghanistan

Dear oh dear...

[Louis VI the Fat]

And one to file under 'You couldn't make it up':

The dead body of an insurgent who had an Aston Villa tattoo has also been discovered in southern Afghanistan.

Ah well. I guess it could all have been much, much worse. These fighters are not complete savages, as is shown by them not sporting Tottenham tattoos.

[HoreTore]

And one to file under 'You couldn't make it up':



Ah well. I guess it could all have been much, much worse. These fighters are not complete savages, as is shown by them not sporting Tottenham tattoos.

A non-white villa fan? Seriously?

[Fragony]

I don't find it all that odd from their perspective, but the UK really has to wise up on what they have living within their borders. Saw a video of beards shrieking the usual messages with the usual primitive rage at the 2 minute silence at national memorium day, and very passive bobby's.

[rory_20_uk]

Best to kill them abroad. A lot cheaper than all the legal niceties of trying to remove people aiding terrorists and actively trying to kill soldiers - we might be breaching their human rights deporting them to a country they are trying to destabilise...

The UK should realise the difference between a multicultural society and a multiracial society. The former doesn't work.

[Andres]

Some would say that what an Afghan cab driver does in his free time is none of our bloody business and that we should debate him

Anyway, you know something is rotten in your country if it isn't legally possible to simply pick up the "cab driver -Taleban fighter during his holidays" and send him back to whatever country the plane/boat/bus he arrived with, hailed from. And shoot him if he refuses to leave voluntarily. There are limits.

[HoreTore]

Remember how everyone on this board went nuts when British troops were targetted by Al-Q at their homes....?

[Rhyfelwyr]

Remember how everyone on this board went nuts when British troops were targetted by Al-Q at their homes....?

Wasn't it more the fact that they had the nerve to live in the country as citizens, then go kill its own soldiers? Much like this cab driver...

[HoreTore]

Wasn't it more the fact that they had the nerve to live in the country as citizens, then go kill its own soldiers? Much like this cab driver...

Ah.

So nobody has an issue with Taliban fighters killing british soldiers in the presence of their families, as long as they do it on a tourist visa?

[al Roumi]

I have a hard time understanding how this guy can on the one hand make the most of the UK and on the other spend the proceeds of his comfortable existence in (potentially) attacking UK troops. How can he rationalise that? Living and benefiting from something he also objects to. I'm sure it's not that simple but the guy could surely have based himself in a country without forces in Afghanistan -and avoid such a contradiction.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Ah.

So nobody has an issue with Taliban fighters killing british soldiers in the presence of their families, as long as they do it on a tourist visa?

It removes the problem I stated above. Of course, it is not acceptable for soldiers to conduct themselves as you describe, be they from the Taliban or the British Army.

[Cute Wolf]

I start to more and more honour authoritarian countries over this fact, democratic countries can't just kick or shoot em on site...

[al Roumi]

kick or shoot em on site...

And that is, of course, a sustainable solution?

[rory_20_uk]

Pesticides are used although we know it doesn't solve the problem. In the example given, removing the individuals from the UK (or more accurately, refusing them the right to return) would be a move towards sustainability.

[Strike For The South]

And one to file under 'You couldn't make it up':



Ah well. I guess it could all have been much, much worse. These fighters are not complete savages, as is shown by them not sporting Tottenham tattoos.

meh when the parc des princes becomes an outdoor mosuqe we will see who has the last laugh

[Cute Wolf]

And that is, of course, a sustainable solution?

working pretty good in China to shut the rebels up... well

[Husar]

I have a hard time understanding how this guy can on the one hand make the most of the UK and on the other spend the proceeds of his comfortable existence in (potentially) attacking UK troops. How can he rationalise that? Living and benefiting from something he also objects to. I'm sure it's not that simple but the guy could surely have based himself in a country without forces in Afghanistan -and avoid such a contradiction.

Maybe he thinks it's awesome because each and every british passenger helps him finance the resistance against british troops? As in he's destroying them with their own money, they finance their own downfall.

[Louis VI the Fat]

meh when the parc des princes becomes an outdoor mosuqe

You don't seriously think Muslims in Paris, in the capital of secular Europe, would use a football stadium for a huge outdoor mosque?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

They frown upon a football stadium.

Muslims in Paristan simply barricade off a few streets in the city itself, five times a day, prohibite passage for non-Muslims, and have their prayers in the open air. Like this, in the 18th, at the foot of Martyr Mountain, near the Sacred Heart basilica:












http://cartomaton.wordpress.com/2009...polonceau-etc/

[Vladimir]

I'm sorry Louis but I really don't know how that city functions.

Is it divided up into segments? Do the truckers have their own and the Muslims another? The gas stations?

Forget the 35 hour work week. I'd be lucky to make it in for 10.

[al Roumi]

working pretty good in China to shut the rebels up... well

Hmm. The sustainability of China's internal "peace" rests on the Government's ability to maintain growth at a steady-ish 8%PA.

[naut]

I'd love to earn money in afghanistanistanistanistanistan and then use the money to buy a gun and go and shoot that guy in the face.

[Vladimir]

I'd love to earn money in afghanistanistanistanistanistan and then use the money to buy a gun and go and shoot that guy in the face.

What do you know about opium?

But yea, that's basically what the Soviets did.

[Fragony]

Hmm. The sustainability of China's internal "peace" rests on the Government's ability to maintain growth at a steady-ish 8%PA.

In Eastern China nobody knows what goes on there it's the wild we- I mean east, direct border with Afghanistan my Afghan maid is from the border you wouldn't believe it how brutal it is. China has a few economic hotspots c'est ca

[naut]

What do you know about opium?

But yea, that's basically what the Soviets did.

I like their style.

[HoreTore]

In Eastern China nobody knows what goes on there it's the wild we- I mean east, direct border with Afghanistan my Afghan maid is from the border you wouldn't believe it how brutal it is. China has a few economic hotspots c'est ca

Is this another instance of "East is the New West", frags....?

[Fragony]

Is this another instance of "East is the New West", frags....?

OK that was rather stupid get that boot out of my face. But skinning people alive is never a really nice thing to do, there is a hidden war going on there and the Afghans there are terrified of the Chinese, and beards do head into China, and the Chinese are active in Afghanistan.

[HoreTore]

OK that was rather stupid get that boot out of my face. But skinning people alive is never a really nice thing to do, there is a hidden war going on there and the Afghans there are terrified of the Chinese, and beards do head into China, and the Chinese are active in Afghanistan.

Not sure what you mean, I was just pointing out that I believe you said "east china" when you meant "west china" again.... Because I believe plenty of people knows what goes on around Beijing and Shanghai, but I'm not sure they know what goes on in the west, on the borders of all the -stan's...

[Fragony]

Not sure what you mean, I was just pointing out that I believe you said "east china" when you meant "west china" again.... Because I believe plenty of people knows what goes on around Beijing and Shanghai, but I'm not sure they know what goes on in the west, on the borders of all the -stan's...

GAWD I did it again, do you now understand why I'm poor at maths, I could end up in China when traveling to the States.

[Furunculus]

Best to kill them abroad. A lot cheaper than all the legal niceties of trying to remove people aiding terrorists and actively trying to kill soldiers - we might be breaching their human rights deporting them to a country they are trying to destabilise...

The UK should realise the difference between a multicultural society and a multiracial society. The former doesn't work.

yup, i get a little happier inside every time i think about the possibility of a british born jihadi getting obliterated by a hellfire missile from a predator drone in the skies of afghanistan.

there is a price for treason, i would see it paid.