Fan-based map progression thread

[B-Wing]

Interesting. I'm curious to know why.

[Power2the1]

Basically it was to, hopefully, allow them some breathing room to expand a bit before having to share borders. Don't get me wrong though - I know that they'll eventually touch and start fighting and probably have some stalemate for a long time as in EB1. However beginning the game without being next to each other is overall more desirable than keeping the EB1 borders.

So Gaulish players should rejoice that they have some better options when they start the game this time than immediate war with the other Gauls.

[B-Wing]

Thank you for the tidbits! We love to get ahold of any information we can. I'm glad to know they'll be separated. I assume then, that they will not begin the game at war with each other, unlike in EB1 (if I remember correctly)?

[moonburn]

herm only way that bibactre and gergovia regions will be separated is if you place a few stone forts around or provinces are rearranged i think (or is there viennos and avaricus in beteween ?? )

[Power2the1]

The plan is for the Gauls to begin the game at peace with each other, unlike EB1 where their territories touched and were at war. Yes, the provinces that hold Auarikon and Uiennos touch and those regions separate the Gauls.

[Phalanx300]

So what is the historical reason behind this? Its interesting at least.

(Am guessing its also to balance Belgae faction, who knows)

[Arjos]

My guess neither Aeduoi nor Auernoi were such powerful figures @ the start date, and slightly bigger Auarikon territory is a nice touch to recall the Bituriges' past...

[moonburn]

so we will have a biturige faction ? and the nervii (when i writte an aar i gotta put the joke those belgae are getting on my nerves right before i conquer brastoporios and raze it to the ground)

[Arjos]

Didn't mean that, just that as the Bituriges were declining, in 272 most likely their territories weren't reduced yet by new rising powers...
As for Belgae, any would do it for me lol

[Power2the1]

Well, there's not a verified historical reason to have, or not to have, the Aeduoi and Aruernoi territories the game touch other than to help the two factions out in game. Because we do not know they remain close in pretty close proximity, but without shared borders.

[Brennus]

I would imagine a Belgic faction would be a confederacy of sorts. To my mind there are three strong candidates for a Belgic faction; 1. The Suessiones who Caesar informs us controlled areas of Gaul and Britain in years preceding the Gallic wars. 2. The Bellovaci who by the 1st Century BC were the most powerful of the Belgae (my money is on them). 3. The Atrebates as they are the only Belgic tribe we know for certain migrated to Britain.

[Arjos]

I was even thinking that a Volcae, Danubian group could be a good canditate, given that the returning group from the Balkan expedition origin is accepted for the Belgae...

[stratigos vasilios]

Are the Sweboz just starting off with one province? Did they start off with one in EB I? I can't remember.

[Ca Putt]

yes they did

[bobbin]

Yes the Sweboz only get one province, if fact compared to EB they only get half a province.

[stratigos vasilios]

Yes the Sweboz only get one province, if fact compared to EB they only get half a province.

which half?

[Arjos]

Northern most likely...
In EB they reached the Boii, quite stretched...

[Ca Putt]

so the Marcomanni get their own province?

hey hat means that you can actually capture a settlement to be inline with sweboz historial expansion XD

[B-Wing]

I'm guessing they don't start on that little island they had in EB1.

[Arjos]

Nor they started with in EB1 XD

[Brennus]

so the Marcomanni get their own province?

Well sir I wish you the best of luck in getting the Marcomanni confirmed. Who knows, in the future we can compare screenshots. You and your Marcommanic empire and me and my Belgic.

[Ca Putt]

Nah I'm not with the marcomanni(I'mno bavarian afterall) I just thought that, as EB1 swebolandam represent the extent of the sweoboz confedaracy which consisted primarily of Semnones and marcomanni and the marcomanni live southof the semnones, it is likely that the new province is the land of the marcomanni. I never thought that they'd be a faction. In fact by now I'm quite sure there won't be another germanic faction(due to a twitter update) eventho the chatti had a slight chance imo(a bit smaller than that of a belgian tribe yet certainly not both).

So in short: I'm just pointing out that the province thus created would be the land of the marcomanni not that they'd be a faction of their own(theydon't evenhave a regional unit :D )

[Arjos]

I think the decision was made, because there weren't any Sweboz that far south at the start date...

[Brennus]

I'm quite sure there won't be another germanic faction(due to a twitter update) eventho the chatti had a slight chance imo(a bit smaller than that of a belgian tribe yet certainly not both).

I had come to the same conclusion. I recall one of the team members saying that information for the Sweboz in 272BC was limited let alone another Germannic faction. I live in eternal hope that a Belgic faction will be confirmed.

[stratigos vasilios]

I'll throw out a bone: The Aeduoi and Aruernoi provinces no longer touch.

No longer touching.

Yes the Sweboz only get one province, if fact compared to EB they only get half a province.

which half?

Northern most likely...
In EB they reached the Boii, quite stretched...

Added in Sweboz.

If the team want to drop any other hints please feel free to do so...

[Populus Romanus]

The Massylians only start with half of the EBI province of Numidia -- I believe the Eastern half.

[moonburn]

well we can´t exclude that perhaps permanent stone forts might be used to partly break a region into smaller regions so for instance sweboland might not really be cut in half as much as you might only start with part of a province and must then conquer the permanent stone forts to get the entire province under your rule wich ofc can be extremly usefull when planing your expansion to keep buffer states

[bobbin]

No, the Sweboz home province is basically the northern half of their old starting province in EB. We haven't done anything so far with PSF's although we do plan to use them (might not be first release).

[Ca Putt]

btw Another interesting thing would be a map that highlights the spots of the map that could(gameplaywise) have an other faction and were not explicitly ruled out(like albion).

what do you think people?

[B-Wing]

Sure, but what do you mean by Albion? It's already been definitively stated that there will not be another faction on the British Isles.