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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    Thanks.:D
    Can you show some screens of my Bosporians?:P
    Yes. In half an hour.
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    Sorry to say, but they are ugly and far to bright...
    I don't want to be a nagger, but skinning costs time, and making skins historical skins costs more time. I will edit some, and post them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkar View Post
    Sorry to say, but they are ugly and far to bright...
    I don't want to be a nagger, but skinning costs time, and making skins historical skins costs more time. I will edit some, and post them.
    Which ones? The last two ones?
    Edit: Already answered.
    Last edited by Magneto; 08-21-2011 at 12:29.

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    A thought just crossed my mind: What about the ships?

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    too purple skull.. make the warband a regular warband, similar to the skirmisher warband behind it:) and talk to Caesar15, apparently he made ship skins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkar View Post
    Sorry to say, but they are ugly and far to bright...
    I don't want to be a nagger, but skinning costs time, and making skins historical skins costs more time.


    Quote Originally Posted by ahowl11 View Post
    too purple skull.. make the warband a regular warband, similar to the skirmisher warband behind it

    Okay...sorry for trying to make them look greek a bit,not standard unhistorical half naked warband........
    Last edited by Skull; 08-21-2011 at 17:38.
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    alpha is essentially vanilla.. not alot of historical input.. beta will be better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahowl11 View Post
    alpha is essentially vanilla.. not alot of historical input.. beta will be better
    But in beta we will have vannila type skins,right?

    POST 90,WE ARE NEARING 100 :D
    When the camel {S}thinks,it is time to leave the oassis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    POST 90,WE ARE NEARING 100 :D
    You┤re slow, I am at 110 and joined a great deal later.

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    Ok. I made a few Unit cards:
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    These are at the moment all Illyrian Units (Well, apart from the ships, of course). They all got new textures. I┤m at the moment trying to figure out how I can edit the mercenary unit card into the new one, as the game just doesn┤t show mine up.

    Also, I am not sure with the Scutarii, if they┤ll implented now or not. A definitive YES/no Statement would help alot.
    I also know that these aren┤t the best UI-Cards you have ever seen, but I think they aren┤t the worst also, and they at least help till we got "real" UI-Cards

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    Put the scuttari in.
    Also,increase the charge of "barbarian" illyrian units,but decrease ther melle effectivnes.
    When the camel {S}thinks,it is time to leave the oassis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    Put the scuttari in.
    Also,increase the charge of "barbarian" illyrian units,but decrease ther melle effectivnes.
    Well, I┤m at the moment not gonna change anything in balancing. I want to change a few things myself, but I think we should concentrate on making the textures now.

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    I made Nabatean desert infantry, eastern infantry and hillmen textures :
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    They look good, but you should change the color into a more historical dusty green color.

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    Yea I know, but I made them look more vanilla for alpha.

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    ya once beta comes we will adjust all the colors to look more dusty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedon1an View Post
    I made Nabatean desert infantry, eastern infantry and hillmen textures :
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    Sorry for late response, couldn┤t load the org. Implenting now.

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    I posted the Nabatean missile units at TWC.:D
    When the camel {S}thinks,it is time to leave the oassis!

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    I will make Phalanks Pikemen AND Chozen Swordz for Bosporains :D
    When the camel {S}thinks,it is time to leave the oassis!

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    This is the new general. I am not completely happy with it, but I think it is ok. Note that I play in the highest Resolution.

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    I completed the Bosporans. The Nabateans are complete exept two units.
    90% of the Texturing is done. Many UI┤s are still missing, however. I will concentrate on the textures, and upload the files tomorrow or the day after. Then we could test it while we complete the UI cards

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    Time to get this thread going again... Everyone post your work with units here.. I will make a list of units to create sometime today.. that way we can be organized.. but no more posting units on TWC.. they will be here so we are organized

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    I made the Bosphoran Archer Warband and Warband :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedon1an View Post
    I made the Bosphoran Archer Warband and Warband :

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    Maybe you could use the vanilla-textures and simple recolour them, instead of making a complete new one?

    It looks rather ... well, unrealistic and clearly painted, sorry.

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    Perfect Macedon1an!!!!!!!! Except the warbands shield.. could you make it vanilla looking? look at dacias shields.. notice how parts are dark brown and the other parts are a faded brown?? do the same with the purple on this.. also Magneto/Primo is that one of your jokes??? And I will have the lis up and ready in a few hours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahowl11 View Post
    Perfect Macedon1an!!!!!!!! Except the warbands shield.. could you make it vanilla looking? look at dacias shields.. notice how parts are dark brown and the other parts are a faded brown?? do the same with the purple on this.. also Magneto/Primo is that one of your jokes??? And I will have the lis up and ready in a few hours!
    Nope. If you look closely you can see exactly where he painted what. If it doesn┤t bother you, I┤m ok with it, but ingame it doesn┤t look good. :(

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    Here are the re-skinned Warband and Militia Hoplites :

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    For beta I think we should use different shield designs for all units...

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    Nice! Both units look good.. will be posting a list soon... and ya for beta we can make each faction have different symbols on the shield.. Primo, I really dont see it.. it looks good to me

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    Roman Republic CAESAR15
    Get rid of following units: Peasants, Praetorian Cohort, Urban Cohort, Peltasts, Praetorian Cavalry, Repeating Ballistas
    Slingers need better UI (like CA makes their unit cards)

    Nabataean Kingdom PRIMO/MAGNETO
    First off we need all of them to be Brutii green.. some are light, some are dark, and some have their old faction color's skins still.. we need them to all have the same colors..

    Here are the particulars:
    General's Body guard: Horses are fine, men have parthian colors.. needs to be brutii.. general didnt have a sword just his fist.. i think thats just an error with the game though

    Desert Infantry: Still have Numidian Colors.. main part of uniform needs to be green with the other parts white
    Slingers: Sleeves and hoody are fine but there is a black outline at the bottom of the tunic.. needs to be white
    Bedouin Warriors, Bedouin Archers, and Arab Cavalry: Change mercenary greens to brutii green and white

    Also these following units need UI's:

    Eastern Infantry
    Desert Infantry
    Slingers
    Peltasts


    also i believe macedon1an made arab swordsmen? do we have a file for that? i believe that the nabataeans will be a fun and difficult faction to play as.. they need 1 or 2 heavier units to balance them out better but historical accuracy will be an issue.. i think we can make a Royal Cavalry and Infantry Unit

    Illyrians CAESAR15
    Get Rid of Barbarian Peasants
    Warband, Spear Warband, Swordsmen, Barbarian Cavalry: Need Dacian Skins.. what i mean is brown hair like the dacians not blonde hair
    Militia Hoplites: Need vanilla shield, blue background with white outline
    All units need to be Scipii colors.. that means Scipii blue and white.. some units are blue and black.. make sure units that have striped pants (warbands) have scipii blue and white stripes
    Slingers need greek accent not carthaginian accent
    UI's need to reflect units.. archer warband ui has red hair while actual unit has brown hair..
    Barbarian Cavalry UI needs to look like other UI's (Like CA makes their unit cards)
    Cilician Pirates needs to be Illyrian Pirates, Illyrian Mercenaries needs to be Illyrian Peltasts.. need UI's reflecting Scipii Colors, the Illyrian Peltasts need Scipii colors not greek colors

    Bosporan Kingdom MACEDON1AN
    Get Rid Of
    Chosen Swordsmen
    Chosen Archer Warband
    Barbarian Noble Cavalry
    Ballistas

    Add
    Scythian Horse Archers


    Then, Archer Warband, and Warband need to look like vanilla style units.. just take the Dacian textures and give them Senate colors
    Same thing goes for Axemen and Barbarian Cavalry.. get rid of the shirts
    Militia Hoplites need the colors on their shiled reversed.. purple background with white design/outlines

    Most of the units are purple and black.. the senates colors are purple and white
    These Units Need to be Purple and White instead of Purple and Black
    Early Generals Bodyguard
    Late Generals Bodyguard
    Peltasts
    Archers
    Skirmisher Warband
    Heavy Peltasts
    Greek Cavalry
    Militia Cavalry

    These units need to be fixed as well
    Levy Pikemen (purple sleeves/tunic, white outline; purple shields)
    Phalanx Pikemen (purple tunic, white outline; purple shields with white design/outline)

    Remember Senates colors are purple and white not purple and black..
    ALL UNITS NEED UI'S!!!!
    Last but not least the general and captain textures need to be reskinned to purple and white.. right now they are macedonian skins

    Macedon MACEDON1AN
    Fix Heavy Peltasts Shield so it's vanilla looking.. use the Greeks Skin as an example and you should be able to tell the difference..
    Heavy Peltasts Need UI (Like CA makes them)

    Ptolemaic Empire PRIMO/MAGNETO
    Get Rid Of Peasants
    Re-Add Skirmishers
    Silver Shield Pikemen Needs to be Gold Shield Pikemen,.. needs to be reskinned and given Egyptian Colors and a UI
    Slingers, Peltasts, Militia Cavalry, and Heavy Peltasts need to look Greek (white skin, not dark) peltasts and militia cavalry need original vanilla shield
    Light Lancers: uniform is too yellowish.. needs to be more Gold
    Archers, Companion Cavalry: Have Macedonian Skin, needs to be Egyptian
    Scythed Chariots need Egyptian Skin not Seleucid

    Need UI:
    Gold Shield Pikemen
    Slingers
    Peltasts
    Heavy Peltasts
    Archers
    Greek Cavalry
    Light Lancers
    Scythed Chariots
    Militia Cavalry

    Seleucid Empire CAESAR15
    Light Lancers Outline is black, needs to be white
    Heavy Peltasts and Light Lancers need UI's

    Atropatene MACEDON1AN
    Peltasts need to look Parthian, they have Armenian Skins
    Peltasts and Persian Archers need UI's

    Gauls PRIMO/MAGNETO
    British Light and Heavy Chariots need to be Gaulish Light and Heavy Chariots..
    Both Chariot Units Need Gaul's Symbol on the back of chariot not Britoons symbol
    Light Chariots have German Skin, needs to be Gaulish Skin
    Gaulish Chariots and Gaulish Light Chariots need UI's

    Britons CAESAR15
    Late Barbarian Warlord needs Briton Colors
    Early Barbarian Warlord and Barbarian Noble Cavalry are missing the textures..
    Barbarian Cavalry, Barbarian Noble Cavalry, and Late Barbarian Warlord need new UI's (like CA made them)

    Armenia MACEDON1AN
    Slingers need Armenian Skin and need UI

    Dacians PRIMO/MAGNETO
    Add Skirmisher Warband, should be in the files! Might need UI

    Greek Cities CAESAR15
    Get rid of Companion Cavalry, add slingers with a UI

    Scythians PRIMO
    Add skirmisher warband and reskin warband with UI's.. Skirmisher Warband should be in files, and i thought i sent you the skin for Warband? Make sure these units have the distinct Scythian looking pants

    Thrace MACEDON1AN
    Reskin so they have Thracian Colors and brown hair (like Dacians):
    Warband
    Swordsmen
    Spear Warband
    Archer Warband
    Barbarian Cavalry

    Get rid of following units
    Chosen Swordsmen
    Chosen Archer Warband
    Barbarian Noble Cavalry

    Slingers should be Greek Skin with Thracian Colors not Barbarian Skin

    UI's for each unit

    SO HERE IS ALL OF THE WORK TO BE DONE, POST EVERY LITTLE BIT OF WORK SO WE CAN REVIEW. WHEN EACH UNIT IS COMPLETED I WILL PUT "DONE" IN RED NEXT TO IT. LETS GET TO WORK!
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    Done with roman roster, going to take a 20 minute break ebfore starting with ilryians, a lot fo work with them.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=10340518#post10340518

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