Factions of HRTW

[ahowl11]

Ok here we will decide as a team which factions will be included in our mod. For now what we want to do with the mod is still undecided so I will list every possible faction that I can think of from Scotland to India, and give a brief description of each. I will list each faction by chances of them making the mod. Also I'm basing the time frame off 280 BC, if we decide to change that date I will update this thread
Final Faction List
1. The Roman Republic
2. The Republic of Carthage
3. The Seleucid Empire
4. The Ptolemaic Empire
5. The Antigonid Kingdom
6. The Odrysian Kingdom
7. The Kingdom of Pontus
8. The Kingdom of Armenia
9. The Kingdom of Epirus
10. The Aetolian League
11. The Bosporan Kingdom
12. Parthia
13. Numidia
14. Gauls
15. Germans
16. Britons
17. Iberians
18. Sarmatians
19. Illyrians
20. Free People
21. Rebels

Now it gets harder. Here are other candidates for Kingdoms around the time)
The Bosporan Kingdom - alive and well at this time
The Kingdom of Atropatene - was around since 320's BC but there is not much information on them
The Kingdom of Cappadocia - can't tell if they were independant or not in 280 BC
The Kingdom of Bithynia - Was a growing power at this time
The Kingdom of Iberia - Not Iberia Spain, but north of Armenia. Was a new kingdom about 20 years old but was very strong under it's King
Colchis - Never was really unified
Palmyra - Was actually an Independant City. The Seleucids left it alone when they took over Syria
The Nabataean Kingdom - Nabataeans were around, but it did not become a Kingdom until 168 BC
The Hasmonean Kingdom - did not become fully independant until 110 BC
The Kingdom of Bactria - Appeared in 256 BC (only if we have extended map)
The Indo-Greek Kingdom - was actually many small states fighting each other. Did not appear until 180 BC (only if we have extended map)
The Kingdom of Epirus - alive and well, played major role in 280 BC
Pergamum - Baby state. Formed one year before mod starts
Aetolian League - Strong at the time
Achaean League - Weak at the time but got stronger
Cyrene - was independant under Mago
Syracuse - Major Power in Sicily
Sparta - Was still around, getting stronger
Numidia - was not a kingdom yet, instead were two tribes fighting each other
Mauretania - small kingdom at the time
Parthia - was a nomadic people at the time but immensely strong (only if we have extended map)
Mauryan Empire - would be misrepresented since they controlled all of India (only if we have extend map)
Saba - Arabian Kingdom
Ethiopia - African Kingdom

Greek City States that were independent
Athens
Argos
Rhodes
Naxos
Kydonia
Byzantium
Sinope
Chersonesus
Olbia
Massilia
other minor cities

Barbarians
Gauls - Helvetii, Insubres, Aedui, Arverni, Remi, Pictones, Belgae, Aquitani, Sequani etc
Germans - Chatti, Cimbri, Teutones, Chauci, Eburones, Marcomanni, Quadi, Goths etc
Iberians - Turdetani, Luistani etc
Britons - Casse, Trinovates, Atrebates etc
Dacians
Thracians
Illyrians
Scythians
Sarmatians
Galatians
Noricum
Celt-Iberians
Tylis
Eastern Celts
Bastarnae
Massagetae
Sakae

We have many factions to choose from everyone.

I suggest we think deeply about it. I have most of the list in my head but it's tough!

I will come up with some lists and I will post them, I think we can make an accurate faction list. We must decide on a map though.

Here is my first proposal:
280 BC Extended map, cut off before India and before Arabia, meaning no Indian, Arabian, or African factions

1. The Roman Republic
2. The Republic of Carthage
3. The Seleucid Empire
4. The Ptolemaic Empire
5. The Antigonid Kingdom
6. The Kingdom of Thrace
7. The Kingdom of Pontus
8. The Kingdom of Armenia
9. The Kingdom of Epirus
10. Parthia
11. Sarmatians
12. Dacians
13. Gauls
14. Germans
15. Iberians
16. Independent Greek City States (Athens, Rhodes, Syracuse, Tarentum, Croton, Massilia, Sinope, Chersonesus, Olbia, Byzantium)
17. Hellenic Kingdoms (Sparta, Pergamum, Cyrene, Bosporans, Bactria)
18. Celts or Celtic Tribes (Celt-Iberians, Noricum, Galatians, Tylis, Belgae)
19. Barbarians - bad name needs better one (Illyrians, Thracians, Britons, Luistani, Ligurians, Massagetae, Goths)
20. Independent Kingdoms - (Bithynia, Cappadocia, Nabataeans, Numidians, Iberia, Atropatene, Palmyra)
21. Rebels

I don't think this list is good. It would work, as we could do what XGM did and make provincial campaigns, but it seems too messy. There are still some factions that should get represented better than by a super faction.

I will keep brain storming. You guys should come up with your own lists as well


***FACTION LIST #2***
1. The Roman Republic
2. The Republic of Carthage
3. The Seleucid Empire
4. The Ptolemaic Empire
5. The Antigonid Kingdom
6. The Odrysian Kingdom (Thrace) (Or Illyrians)
7. The Kingdom of Epirus (This faction will be in, it has to be no matter what)
8. The Bosporan Kingdom (Or Bactria)
9. Parthia
10. Numidia (Or Mauretania)
11. The Kingdom of Pontus
12. The Kingdom of Armenia
13. Gallic Faction (Yet to be completely determined)
14. Britons
15. Dacians (Or Illyrians)
16. Sarmatians
17. German Faction (I like Suebi Idea, what about Cimbri?)
18. Iberians (Or Celt-Iberians)
19. Sparta (Everyone likes Sparta, it's historical, and can have goal of unifying the Greeks)
20. Free People (Second Rebel Faction, similar to Roma Surrectum)
21. Rebels