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    Cool HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    Here me and hameleona will make units so we don't use space in the other threads where we should discuss only about the factions and post maybe some symbols or banners.So we just post roaster,symbols,banners and unit list in other threads that ahowl will open for every faction and here will only be units done by hameleona and me....

    And here will be the list for every faction that we will be doing.This first pos will be updated as we make the units for the factions.

    Units highlited in green are made :

    ROMANS

    Pre Marian army :

    Funditores
    Leves
    Acceseni
    Rorarii
    Velites
    Equites

    Hastati
    Principes

    Triarii


    Post Marian army :

    Town Watch
    Early Legionary Cohort
    Early First Legionary Cohort
    Legionary Cohort
    Legionary First Cohort
    Roman Cavalry
    Auxilia
    Light Auxilia
    Archer Auxilia
    Ballistas


    CARTHAGE

    Town watch
    Iberian infantry
    Peltasts
    Scutarii
    Sacred Band of Tanit
    Poeni Phalangites
    Samnite Cavalry
    Poeni swordsmen
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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    Ahowl said that someone will make the UI's. So, should i do UI's for the new units or not?

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    Ahowl said that someone will make the UI's. So, should i do UI's for the new units or not?
    No...Some other guy is making the UI's for us...We will just make units.

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    Yeah do not worry about the UI's, just post the models and or textures for him to work with.. I will then send those to him, he makes the UI's and I will post them here

    By the way, can I see what the Accensi and Rorarii look like?
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    Uploaded with ImageShack.us

    Roarii (made a new model, actually. The cape didn't want to disappear 100% by texture)



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    Acsenii (or whatever they are called) Made the new model, by removing the shield of the normal roman slinger (vanilla has it). Use this model for all shieldless slingers.

    I'll upload the models and a preview when the romans are finished.

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    Very good. The Hastati and Principes should not be too hard should they? I know the Triarii will be the toughest. For the Triarii shield, give them the exact same one that the Armored Hoplites use for now.

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    Nice work hameleona.

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP


    By hameleona_666 at 2012-01-22

    hastatii


    By hameleona_666 at 2012-01-22

    principi

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    hahahaha,just three units eh hameleona ?

    Very,very nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hameleona View Post

    By hameleona_666 at 2012-01-22

    hastatii


    By hameleona_666 at 2012-01-22

    principi
    very good

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    Well... had an argument with the girlfriend so, i woke up... and had to come my nerves. :lol:

    PS: I realized, that i have forgotten the leg protector, so i am doing it now. It sucks making it, cuz it takes a whole lot of the texture,

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    Leg protector added!


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    Like it?

    PS: hastati and principi use one and the same model. And since i don't have to do UI;s i'm quite productive.
    Last edited by hameleona; 01-22-2012 at 23:37.

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    asgaroth's acceseni



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    And triarii? If i got it right that is what you want.


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    PS: They don't have enough space for one leg protector. So you'll have two :D

    PPS:
    Late hastatii:


    By hameleona_666 at 2012-01-22

    and late principii:

    By hameleona_666 at 2012-01-22

    Velites... the shield big enough for ya?



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    and eqites



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    Anything left?
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    All the units are DONE!
    I will make the needed fixes (if there are any) and then upload all the models and textures.

    And since i want to see the mod going forward i will do more units ONLY after the romans are fully implemented and tested! Inly then! Not cuz i'm a bad person, but cuz they may have a TON on problems.
    Last edited by hameleona; 01-23-2012 at 00:44.

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    ooh! cant wait to see the the post marian units. good work

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    The models and textures (they should work fine... but still they need testing)

    roman_pre_marian_units.rar - 392.0 KB

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    @hameleona http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=426705&page=2
    go to post 26 and look at the triarii, then download them. use their helmet on the model you already have, leave the crest white with the feathers being red. thats the helmet triarii wore.

    http://www.europabarbarorum.com/fact...ani_units.html
    Look at the Camillan Equites helmet, is there any way you can put that on our equites head? if anything just use the original equites head/helmet. also get rid of the shoulder pads and add a cape.

    for the Funditores, just use the original vanilla shield

    Other than those few fixes, everything else is good.

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    @hameleona
    We have access to many, many mods. They have given us permission to use their models. So if you need me to find the files for each model I will gladly give them to you from other mods.

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    When i googled crested helmet - that was what got out: http://www.a2armory.com/images/helme...blackcrest.jpg
    When i googled ethruscan-corinthean hemet i got out that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ungen_4330.jpg

    so, next time, post pictures, please? Or check with google. :)

    PS: Why do you make me do units 1:1 with those form other mods (EB mostly)? Just retexture theirs.

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    Crested helmet #39 is what I want
    http://image58.webshots.com/758/7/63...5gFmPwj_ph.jpg
    Etrusco-Corinthian Helmet and discussion
    http://www.historum.com/ancient-hist...an-helmet.html

    And I will provide pictures and resources next time.
    Also I like EB's Idea with the units but they are ugly in my opinion. With vanilla representation they will look nice.

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    Plus I think our units should be unique

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    unique my...
    You just want me to COPY the EB models for a triarii and equite. Go look at those units again and tell me i'm wrong. Just re-texture them and dont bother me with making new stuff, just to copy someone else's units.

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    2 words for hameleona's units: Simply awesome. Loved the pre-Polybian Triarii

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    Default Re: HAMELEONA & ASGAROTH'S WORKSHOP

    I love the fact, that you love them, but the way it's going, ahowl wants them different. Actually, he wants EB triarii with vanilla color.

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    Hmm, wouldn't that reduce the mod's uniqueness? I mean, yeah you didn't add the feathers on the helmet, but does it really matter? They wouldn't hurt the game-play, and not even the historical accuracy. I don't really mind having the Triarii without them. Better then "copying" models form other mods.

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    Technically, i don't think that that was the helmet used by the triarii. It covers the ears and that is bad for a manipular formation. I would ask the reserchers to find the answer. But i don't think, that they used a decorative helmet - maybe something in the lines of the cresned helmet or something, that leaves the ears open, so that the solder can hear the commands. But i will wait for a research.

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    deleted. Not worth it.
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    You know, sometimes i think you don't really get it, do you?

    If you wore the only one spending time like s*** - ok. But it takes a lot of time to do some stuff. Don't get pissed off cuz u make me do a model that does not need making! You want it to have the equipment from EB - fine, i don't really care. Just don't bother me - make someone that makes textures to just retexture the EB model with vanilla colors.

    F**k man, now i remember why the s*** i left.

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    No I get it, you believe you shouldn't do work that has already been done. But have you ever noticed the horrible quality of EB's units? Dull, dark shadows that look crappy on the battle field? I don't want that in HRTW. I want OUR version, which has the same idea similar to EB but better quality. At least I'm not asking for 30 units per faction, I listened, understood, and changed to your advice. I'm not that hard of a person to work with, I'm just tired of getting questioned. I will put in the work if you do. I understand that you hate modelling and it's frustrating, and it takes forever. I get it. But in the end result you have a bad ass unit that looks better than EB's, and everyone will know that hameleona made that awesome looking unit. Even though work sucks, in the end result it always pays off.
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