Murders in France

[HoreTore]

A jewish school was attacked today(someone who reads english news can probably provide a link in english), where a teacher, his two daughters and another girl was killed by a gunman on a scooter. According to French police, the weapon matches the gun previously used to kill 3 off-duty french soldiers. Two of them descended from north africa and the third from the caribbean. The police are reportedly searching for three former members of the paratrooper unit two of the victims belonged to, who were kicked out because a nazi salute in front of a swastika.

Who wants to make some early predictions about motives we can all laugh abut later when they're proven wrong?

[Strike For The South]

DIRTY DIRTY MUSLIMS

[Whacker]

Fall Gelb mk.2 ?

[Fragony]

Most likely someone who is an enrichment to French culture but who knows, we'll see

[GenosseGeneral]

I guess it is right-wing terrorism. Who else hates Jews and Blacks? Muslim terrorists would blow them up and don't shoot them, also the shooter was described as "well skilled in handling a firearm" -> He has maybe a military background, which would also hint at right-wing terrorism. Their role model could be the German NSU, a Nazi terrorist group which commited multiple murders during the last years until it was covered up.

[Greyblades]

A nazi -wit turns psychomaniac, it's been a while since the last one, I suppose it was due. This is just depressing, killing for outward appearances, how pointless.

[Fragony]

A nazi -wit turns psychomaniac, it's been a while since the last one, I suppose it was due. This is just depressing, killing for outward appearances, how pointless.

Been a while? Didn't something happen in Norway very very recently, more of an anti-islamphiliac but still rightwing terrorism. But still, things like this usually happen when Israel retaliates and they just exactly that a few days ago, would look elsewhere. Could be wrong of course

[rory_20_uk]

Whoever it is has killed a variety of different people. I personally can not see a definite trend.

Time will tell. Either they'll be caught, or kill more people.

[Greyblades]

Been a while? Didn't something happen in Norway very very recently, more of an anti-islamphiliac but still rightwing terrorism. But still, things like this usually happen when Israel retaliates and they just exactly that a few days ago, would look elsewhere. Could be wrong of course

Correction, its been a while since I've read about one. My mistake.

[Papewaio]

Neo Vichy?

[Fragony]

Neo Vichy?

Nope, as expected it is an enrichment to French culture. Being arrested right now.

[Fragony]

Oh, and he wanted to retaliate because Israel. Sorry Horetore you ain't getting your argument of doom, the one that changes everything.

[Hax]

Well, it seems we're in tabernak again.

Additionally, Fragony, he shot two North African (read: Algerian, enrichment-people)before going over to that Jewish school. Are those soldiers enrichment too, or what?

EDIT: So apparently he threw out a pistol out of the window in exchange for a communication device. Apparently he also has some additional weapons, including an uzi. That strikes me as odd.

[Fragony]

Well, it seems we're in tabernak again.

Additionally, Fragony, he shot two North African (read: Algerian, enrichment-people)before going over to that Jewish school. Are those soldiers enrichment too, or what?

EDIT: So apparently he threw out a pistol out of the window in exchange for a communication device. Apparently he also has some additional weapons, including an uzi. That strikes me as odd.

They are soldiers mia muca. Sorry if this isn't what some so desperately want it to be for the lack of anything positive say. It is what it is and it isn't really nice. Ever heard of Stockholm-syndrome

[Husar]

It would be an enrichment for this forum if this silly conspiracy talk about enrichment and Stockholm syndrome stopped.
It has no basis in reality.

Yes, he did claim to be an al Queda member/sympathiser, and that's what it is, please spare us the rhetoric about multiculturalists thinking he's an enrichment and blablabla, I've yet to find such a person outside the violent fa-left fringe that is just as lunatic as the violent far-right (which includes islamic terrorists).

It's a case of right wing terrorism and no left-blaming rhetoric is going to change that.
On the other hand that he shot two african soldiers doesn't prove Fragony's basic point (that it was right wing terrorism) wrong because as he said they were soldiers and represented the french state and it's involvement in other countries. At the same time this proves Fragony's other lame point wrong because they were actually an enrichment for France and fought for french values.

[Fragony]

Sorry Hussie you would have to ban me. There is no inconsistany, do you want there to be any? I despise islam, an islamic country is just a place for me. Your religion is a choice, where you are from is not.

[CountArach]

Sorry Hussie you would have to ban me. There is no inconsistany, do you want there to be any? I despise islam, an islamic country is just a place for me. Your religion is a choice, where you are from is not.

I'm confused. Is France Islamic now?

[Fragony]

Algeria not being French confused France as well. What's your point I don't understand leftist logic.

[CountArach]

Algeria not being French confused France as well. What's your point I don't understand leftist logic.

I haven't got a point, I'm trying to figure out what your point is.

[Fragony]

I haven't got a point, I'm trying to figure out what your point is.

How could you have missed it as I am pretty clear on it, it's the islam.

[rvg]

How could you have missed it as I am pretty clear on it, it's the islam.

That can't be! Islam is a religion of peace!!! Please do not badmouth Muslims' peaceful religion, otherwise they'll have to kill you.

[econ21]

The latest stories are that the murderer was a petty criminal who went off to wage jihad in Afghanistan, where he was imprisoned for planting IEDs but escaped in a mass breakout in 2008. He's been under surveillance by French authorities for some time and was fingered for the current outrages when a garage recalled that he had his bike sprayed a different colour between the attacks (the attacker's bike changed colour between the attacks). The French are determined to catch him alive to stand trial. I hope they succeed, because I am not convinced he acted in isolation and getting more information on his contacts would be useful.

[Lemur]

Apparently he is cornered, and it's now a question of whether this will end with his arrest or death.

[CountArach]

How could you have missed it as I am pretty clear on it, it's the islam.

You're really going to politicise these deaths?

[Fragony]

You're really going to politicise these deaths?

It's not politics it's a religion, shove it on the plate you eat from as long as it isn't mine, not my problem as long as it keeps a distance.

[PanzerJaeger]

Nazis were much more politically correct bad guys. The authorities must have been quite dismayed to discover it was an Islamist.

[rvg]

Nazis were much more politically correct bad guys. The authorities much have been quite dismayed to discover it was an Islamist.

Dismayed, but hardly surprised.

[gaelic cowboy]

hopefully this standoff will be resolved peacefully and the nutter brought to justice.

Nazis were much more politically correct bad guys. The authorities must have been quite dismayed to discover it was an Islamist.

One could imagine twas a secret hope many a rogue had on the left due to the election coming up.

Now of course the Left have to a face potential hardening of public opinion just when Le Pen and Sarko are appealing to same.

There best way to spin this is not to spin it at all, then claim revulsion that the Right would use tragedy to win vote.

[Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla]

You're really going to politicise these deaths?

I believe Frag's point is that the "religion" is "kill the infidel for the glory of Allah" in this case.

So the fact those Algerians were targeted makes perfect sense, they supported the Infidel.

If I read Frag right his point is that it doesn't matter how much you try to accomodate these people, because they have a fundamental hatred for everything you stand for, right down to what you do and don't believe about their God. There is no reasoning and accomodation for these people, only war, and trying to live with them just isn't on the cards.

It is, of course, true that this isn't the case for all or even the majority of Muslims, but for those who few where it is true that is what "Islam" means to them.

I believe Frag is oblique about this because he sees it as obvious.

[Fragony]

I believe FRag is oblique about this because he sees it as obvious.

Thanks for that