Mini Game: Vanilla Game 6 [Concluded]

[Ishmael]

The final tally was 2-3, no? Seems like there's been some chicanery.

Something of a blow...

I was curious myself, so here it is:

atheotes (Montmorency, Arjos, Ishmael)
Montmorency (SalmonSoil, BSmith)
BSmith (atheotes)
No lynch (Lazy McCrow)

Something that struck me when drawing this up; Lazy McCrow, what's with your weird voting this game? Day 1 you forgot to bold your vote (for no lynch), day 2 you forgot to unvote (for no lynch) before re-voting and then forgot to change your vote until just after the round finished. You've always struck me as a fairly careful person, so this seems somewhat uncharacteristic.

[Arjos]

I think that the suicide, invalidated the votes, so the runner-up got lynched...

[atheotes]

Something that struck me when drawing this up; Lazy McCrow, what's with your weird voting this game? Day 1 you forgot to bold your vote (for no lynch), day 2 you forgot to unvote (for no lynch) before re-voting and then forgot to change your vote until just after the round finished. You've always struck me as a fairly careful person, so this seems somewhat uncharacteristic.

So i was not imagining things...Once i realized Monty contributed the communist role, i went to check back to see if Lazy could be the communist. Perhaps i did not pay enough attention. it being around 3 AM did not help.

[Montmorency]

Don't say that!

And yes, Arjos' point was overlooked.

Lynch Crow, then. I dunno, maybe any No Lynch at all, not merely a contributed-to one, is the condition.

If my 'No Lynch' vote had been emboldened on Day 1 would that have made me a commie? Are you hunting communists? Coz it seems like something the mafia would love us to do. Can't wait to see how atheotes responds anyway.

[LazyMcCrow]

I was curious myself, so here it is:

atheotes (Montmorency, Arjos, Ishmael)
Montmorency (SalmonSoil, BSmith)
BSmith (atheotes)
No lynch (Lazy McCrow)

Something that struck me when drawing this up; Lazy McCrow, what's with your weird voting this game? Day 1 you forgot to bold your vote (for no lynch), day 2 you forgot to unvote (for no lynch) before re-voting and then forgot to change your vote until just after the round finished. You've always struck me as a fairly careful person, so this seems somewhat uncharacteristic.

You were curious yourself? Interesting.
My 'weird' voting this game can be attributed to two things.
Day 1 - I forgot to bold my vote - this can be attributed to my carelessness
Day 2 - You say I forgot to unvote? I hadn't even noticed that. That can be attributed to my carelessness
I then 'forgot' to change my vote until after the day had finished. Not so! - I play this from work generally and this means that my time is limited to windows of opportunity to catch up with the thread - so I hadn't 'forgotten' at all. I was happy to see how atheotes responded to Monty's accusation and it was apparent from his response to me at least that he wasn't scum. So I unvoted. While making my post, Visor pointed out in a cross post that the phase had ended. This further failure on my part can be attributed; partly to my carelessness and also to the fact that I am GMT - timing of phases is very important, as was precisely demonstrable in that last point. I realise that these points compounded makes me look suspicious, but I take issue with your last point (My bold in your quote above) I think its fairly clear that I am NOT a particularly careful person. You last point is a total scum-tell. My voting this game has been flaky - you are right to pick up on it - most townie of you. Making up a justification for doing so is however most scummy of you. If I am alive tomorrow - and I hope to be given my awesome townie powers - I shall vote for you.

[Visor]

No-one has died!

Begin Day 3.

Alive: 7/10
4. SalmonSoil
5. LazyMcCrow
6. Ishmael
7. BSmith
8. Arjos
9. Robbiecon
10. DaveShack

Dead 3/10:
3. Nightbringer, committed suicide N1.
1. Montmorency, lynched D2.
2. atheotes, suicided D2.


Time:

[Arjos]

Vote: BSmith

He could have simply voted for "No Lynch" last phase, not to mention he was liable for a tie and voted to save himself...

[robbiecon]

Vote: No Lynch, apologies that I haven't been here, my finals start next week.

Main reason for the no lynch is I'm that bit behind as to what's going on in the game because of this, I will try and read up tomorrow.

Any ideas about why the suicides are happening? Game mechanic, or people quitting?

[Montmorency]

Do not vote No Lynch. Lynch Crow. He's the only possible alternative.

The suicide was a Lover matter, and Crow's ability revived the murdered lover.

Atheotes day-killed himself so that I would be lynched in his stead.

[DaveShack]

I think it's pretty clear that the right move is to vote: Lazy McCrow.

It looks to me like voting on D1 counted towards the no lynch somehow, activating the resurrection power. I have reason to believe that resurrected players help a TP's VC. If this role is a TP, it's clearly better to lynch the known than to shoot for an unknown.

Scum not killing is interesting. Either the scum forgot to send orders, chose not to kill (to deny TP a body to raise?), or got blocked.

[LazyMcCrow]

I think it's pretty clear that the right move is to vote: Lazy McCrow.

It looks to me like voting on D1 counted towards the no lynch somehow, activating the resurrection power. I have reason to believe that resurrected players help a TP's VC. If this role is a TP, it's clearly better to lynch the known than to shoot for an unknown.

Scum not killing is interesting. Either the scum forgot to send orders, chose not to kill (to deny TP a body to raise?), or got blocked.

Pretty clear? What nonsense. Nothing is clear at this point, but: As usual - Monty drives the car and you (Dave) are just choosing to sit in it and pretend you have your own steering wheel. Read Daveshack's analysis back to yourself: You are making massive assumptions and writing them down as gospel. And he was the one who was resurrected! I had nothing to do with the resurrection, - seems weird to me that if I did then Daveshack be voting me?!!

[atheotes]

Atheotes day-killed himself so that I would be lynched in his stead.

that is a little blinkered, dont you think?

[Montmorency]

I don't.

[LazyMcCrow]

I assume atheotes Day-killed himself because he thought he would be taking a scum down with him.

[atheotes]

I don't.

were you even the lead candidate when i killed myself? I did so early enough giving you a chance to save yourself!

[LazyMcCrow]

well. possibly my last contribution to the thread before a busy weekend: I vote: Ishmael I shall try to look in sporadically.

[Ishmael]

Finally get a chance to check in here, and I don't see anything to change my planned vote.

vote: Lazy McCrow

I will freely admit that your strange voting pattern could just be carelessness on your part. However, the 'aura' after the D1 no lynch and its zombiefication of Daveshack/killing of Nightbringer, coupled with the fact we know there will be some unconventional roles, makes me feel that it's too much of a risk not to lynch you.

[BSmith]

vote: Arjos What’s so scummy about voting to save myself? I am the one person I know for sure is innocent. The Monty vote was a good option. I was leaning more towards atheotes being innocent, and took the chance that perhaps Monty was not based on how hard he was pushing the lynch. Hind sight is 20/20 though, and it was a bad move. But even then, as I said earlier – if we had to lose a townie, Monty was the best choice as he freely admitted he had already used his ability and was nothing more than a vanilla townie.

I saw three possibilities:

1. Lynch a scumbag .
2. Lynch a townie with a useful ability.
3. Lynch a townie with no ability.

I was naturally hoping for option 1, but the fallback was option 3. Option 2 was the worst possible outcome.

[SalmonSoil]

Lynch: LazyMcCrow

Given Monty's innocence I see no reason not to trust the information he gave us. This is that the third party uses no lynches to fuel its victory conditions in someway. This makes you the most likely candidate for being the third party.

[Visor]

Alright. Salmon's vote is invalid as it is after the deadline.

Tallying, calculating, be back soon.

[Montmorency]

Didn't the round end an hour and one-half ago? Or is this another one of those timer issues?

[Visor]

Didn't the round end an hour and one-half ago? Or is this another one of those timer issues?

TImer issue. THe round was scheduled to end at 9am. And his vote was at 345pm.

[LazyMcCrow]

have a nice game.

[Visor]

Round ain't over yet.

[SalmonSoil]

Wierd, I thought I had at least another 5 hours? Is the timer related to time zones or something?

[Ishmael]

Wierd, I thought I had at least another 5 hours? Is the timer related to time zones or something?

It was wacky for me as well, and I'm nearly in the same time zone as Visorslash - this morning, with 2 hours to go (as I now know) it said there was 18 hours remaining. However, now it is saying the round is finished, whilst if it had stuck to that timing then there would still be a few hours left. I think I'll just work the deadline out manually in the future.

[Montmorency]

Location: The Red Centre

Have I failed yet again?

[Ishmael]

Have I failed yet again?

Nearly the same - I'm only half an hour behind the eastern states now that daylight savings has finished.

[Montmorency]

Why do you change the subject?

[Visor]

Round is over. Standby for writeup.