"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
No your right about the class thing RVG they are farmers and naturally they live in rural and generally isolated areas. Essentially there seen has having all the land and money and these people want it.
Certainly these murders have a racial element to them how else would these fellows frame it but as getting the land back.
These things as always are driven by the hunger for land an money, no doubt a local bigwig buys the farm at acution(reduced price I bet too) an either sells it on or divides it up between the gang.
Last edited by gaelic cowboy; 04-23-2012 at 17:06.
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
Um, no "Boer" does refer to the landowners and not urban whites of British extraction. For one thing, Boers often speak less English than Blacks, something Mandela discusses in his biography. Of course, after independance the state was run by the Boers, not the Brits.
Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't genocide, because Boers are a distinct ethnic group.
"If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."
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No your lot are just starving because none of the aid goes to them
http://www.odinistpressservice.com/2...-are-starving/
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
Do you have any evidence for that claim? I've spent my working life researching sub-Saharan Africa and this is the first time I've heard of it. First google search hit ("rape incidence by region") produces:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...pes-per-capita
which does not support your claim at all.
What are you trying to say here? Nudge-nudge wink-wink comments that about race seem to becoming fashionable in the backroom of late (see also the Zimmerman thread). Is that what you are indulging in or have I missed the point?And Haitian thing. And Brazilian thing. Oh wait.
Last edited by econ21; 04-27-2012 at 16:56.
Isnt there a problem that countries in the West are more likely to have reliable stats on this anyway as opposed to say in Equitorial Africa.
Also how likely is someone to report rape in say Saudi or for that matter how much of a chance is it capable happening if women dont go outside??
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
All quite true. It is also true that rape-rates have declined precipitously in most Western countries and are at an all time low, claims such as, "one in four" or even "one in three women are survivors" does not actually refer to penetrative rape, but to general sexual assault, and even then they sidestep the fact that there are villages if not regions where every woman and girl has been penetratively raped multiple times.
"If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."
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Plus the old myth of tablets in the drink is a favoured one of obviously completely steamed up women. Apparently there has never been an actual case of date rape druging in Ireland according to the Gardai.
Funnily enough there were posters and leaflets were all over college when I was there, and stories of it happening to friend of a friends mate.(urban legends for sure)
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
Having said that, tipsy women abandoned on their own can be vulnerable to being plied with drink and possibly other substances, where there is a clear intent on the part of the man. If she is drug enough when her girlfriends abandon here you could call that rape, as she really isn't in her right mind and really no more compus mentus than if she were unconcious.
"If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."
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Yes but if you ask me in the majority of the cases the likelyhood is both parties were flat out drunk anyway already. They then proceeded to have away with it in an alley or nightclub toilet, waking the next mornig not havin a clue.
Not saying there are not predators out there cos we know there are, I just take the stats with a kilo of salt usually.
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
Wow. You missed the point.
I didn't realize that I needed to prove that rape is an issue in Africa. Note I said "Africa" and not sub sahara Africa. I notice your link, which lists countries and not continents, hardly has any African countries on it. Those stats are a joke, dude. I mean seriously. What, did they just go by police reports, arrests and convictions? Well, the Rwandan police have always been known for their professionalism and thoroughness, so yeah, I am sure rape hardly ever happens there because if it did they would have said something. I am also sure that certain culural norms, like a husband being "due" sex or a war fighter claiming his secret pay, were taken into due consideration when compiling this list. What a farce.
Haiti and Brazil are both superstitious, patriarchal kleptocracies with pockets of stability and swaths of vast ghettos. My point was that places that are unstable by our standards are typically going to have higher incidences of rape in general, where the "Stable" places will have rape that is concentrated in certain locations and demographics. Also, I didn't realize Brazil was in Africa so yeah, that was totally about race. You got me. FYI I could have just as easily added a laundry list of other countries to my list, which is why I said "oh wait"
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