This thread was created with the purpose of identifying the political alignment of individual members, and to establish a quick reference of a political profile for consultation by other members. I'm going for a sticky so that this will always be available for viewing. However, there are some rules to this.Please read them before posting. They are necessary for the thread to work properly. If you see a problem with the thread, please notify me by PM, not by posting here.
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1) Only posts with the format below:
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Country of Residence:
Nationality: (nationality is your current citizenship)
Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum:
Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc):
Do you identify yourself with a certain political party:
Religion:
Abortion:
War in Iraq:
War in Afghanistan:
Marijuana:
Firearms:
Gay Marriage:
Gay Adoption:
Religion in Schools:
Death Penalty:
European Union:
Israel:
Will be acceptable in the thread. If you have no opinion on an issue, please say "undecided". You may put the political compass graph in your post. Copying and pasting the above is the best way to go.
2) The thread will include no debate or comments other than a post and profile for each member. I have contacted the Backroom moderators, namely Banquo's Ghost, to help me out with this, to which he has graciously agreed.
3) You may go back to edit your profile if your opinion on something changes. Just go ahead and do it, there's no need to post that you did it. If you want to change your political compass results, however, you will need to take the test again.
4) Please keep your profile as accurate as possible.
5) For the political compass results, only this Political Compass will be used. This is to standardize responses. You do not have to fill out a Political Compass quiz, but it is very strongly encouraged.
NOTE: This chart is from what I'd say is the American-style political compass. If you are from a European country, you may want to tinker with the graph a little bit to decide where you fit. I'm aware that the Political Compass test can be flawed. It is just here to give members a general idea.
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A chart of where members fit on the Political Compass. You will, obviously, only go on this map if you have posted your Political Compass results.
My Political Profile
Country of Residence: Nationality: German Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 3.88 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.92 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Right-wing, mostly libertarian tendencies with a few slightly authoritarian beliefs scattered in. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Free Market Conservative/Monarchist. Do you identify yourself with a certain political party: No major party in Germany fits my views. Religion: Roman Catholic
Abortion: Legal in early-term pregnancy in cases of rape, legal whenever when threatening life of mother. Otherwise illegal. War in Iraq: Against initial invasion, pro-war now. War in Afghanistan: Pro-war, send more troops. Marijuana: Legal for medicinal purposes. Neutral to decriminalization of small amounts. Firearms: Minimal control laws, citizens should be able to acquire them relatively freely. Gay Marriage: Neutral. Gay adoption: Undecided. Religion in schools: Teach the history, unless in a religious private school. Death penalty: Neutral. European Union: Against political union. Israel: Pro-Israel.
Last edited by Evil_Maniac From Mars; 01-22-2010 at 03:46.
Country of Residence:USA
Nationality:American
Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right:1.62 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: I'd claim to be a libertarian, but in reality I'm more center right.
Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Not really
Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: Not really
Religion: Agnostic
Abortion: In very early pregnancies, rape, and danger to the mother
War in Iraq: For it initally, but hoping for a gradual troops reduction, then pullout very soon
War in Afghanistan: Send more troops. NATO needs to contribute more.
Marijuana: Abolition of federal laws regulating marijuana. I'm for slow decriminalization, and eventual restricted legalization, but states should decide for themselves.
Firearms: States should decide for themselves. That said, I believe it should depend on the geography and social situation.
Gay Marriage: For, but it should be difficult to obtain
Gay adoption: For, but in restricted circumstances. Gay parents can be very capable of raising a child, but I do believe in an ideal situation, a mother and father in a stable situation would be better.
Religion in schools: There should be time set aside each day for whatever kind of activity you need/want to do.
Death penalty: In very rare circumstances and within 99.9999% of a doubt.
European Union: Don't really care, although it shouldn't be given more power.
Last edited by Ice; 08-05-2008 at 06:35.
Reason: afghanistan and EU
Country of Residence: United States Nationality: American mutt Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 4.25; Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Mr. Marx summed it up best: "These are my principles, and if you don't like them … well, I have others." Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): No. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: No. Religion: Episcopalian with deist tendencies.
Abortion: Will be made obsolete by technology. In the meantime, legal 1st trimester, progressively less legal after that. War in Iraq: To quote The Economist: "The Iraq war was a case study of what happens when politicisation is mixed with incompetence." War in Afghanistan: Over a decade of victory! Marijuana: Legalize, tax and control. Firearms: In favor of right to ownership and most concealed carry laws. Opposed to stand your ground. Gay Marriage: Pro. Gay adoption: As long as they qualify on the same standards as hetero couples. Religion in schools: Fine for parochial schools, unnecessary to inject it into public schools. Besides, if we allow endorsement of religion in public schools, we're going to have to make time for Scientologists and Reverend Moon. Death penalty: Opposed on grounds of practical application and cost. European Union: Why is their constitution 478 pages long? We crammed ours into a mere 17 pages. Curious to see if the EU experiment survives the decade. Israel: Supposedly a great strategic asset for us, but I don't see it. Some days, when contemplating the Palestinian/Israeli axis of neverending stupidity, I think maybe Ripley got it right.
Last edited by Lemur; 05-14-2012 at 23:00.
Reason: Mine was 3+ years old; updated.
Country of Residence: The Netherlands Nationality: Dutch Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 2.00 Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Economicly right wing, socially liberal, EU-neutral. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Liberal (European) Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: None really, but I usually vote for liberals (VVD) Religion: Alternating between atheist and agnostic.
Abortion: Illegal when the fetus has reached viability, possibly before- except obviously when there are health risks. War in Iraq: Against the initial invasion, as soon as that was over Iraq's fate was the responsibility of the coalition. I supported and still support the occupation (heh) because the new Iraqi state deserves a chance. War in Afghanistan: Entirely for; I've always felt that we shouldn't leave until the government could maintain itself. Frankly I don't see how you could oppose it unless you're a total pacifist. Marijuana: Should be allowed and regulated much like alcohol. Firearms: Should be allowed, but only after an antecedent checkup and psychology test, and with registration. Gay Marriage: For; against forcing religious institutions to recognise them. Gay adoption: For. Religion in schools: only private schools. I hate my country's system where faith schools receive money just like public schools. Death penalty: Against on a practical basis and for that matter; not sure if it's ever justified except for crimes against humanity. European Union: Used to support, now mostly indifferent. My biggest problems with it are the CAP and lack of transparancy. Israel: Supports the state's existance, but lay most of the blame of the current mess on their politicians.
Country of Residence:United States of America Nationality: U.S.A. Political Compass Result: 2008 Economic Left/Right: 1.00 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: .97 2011Economic Left/Right: -0.75 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum:Center-Right, Center Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping: Conservative Progressive with a healthy disrespect of authority Do you identify yourself with a certain political party:Republican Religion: Roman Catholic
Abortion: Only if necessary to save the mother's life. War in Iraq:For it at the time it began, support it now to completion. War in Afghanistan:Of course. Marijuana: End the drug war Firearms:Absolutely yes. Less regulation in general. Gay Marriage:Abolish the legal institution of marriage and create a common contract between any 2 people. Marriage in church. Gay adoption:Heterosexuals and homosexuals should only adopt hard to place children. Religion in schools:Not sponsored by the state in any way, but allowed like any other club would be. Death penalty:Generally against, but I believe it is constitutional. European Union: Federation of States with a supplemental military relationship to the United States Israel:One of the worst mistakes made in the 20th century. Apartheid nation that destabilizes the region. No state religion, abandon ghettoization of Arabs.
Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 05-26-2012 at 05:46.
"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
(Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
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Country of Residence:Australia Nationality:Australian with Anglo roots. Political Compass Result:Economic Left/Right: -9.38 and Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: - 8.62 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum:I don't fit myself onto any of the planes, but if I was forced to it was be the bottom left of that plane. Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc):I'm very difficult to place. Post-modern, Post-Structural and Post-Left in varying amounts. Applied Post-Structural linguistics would be there best label if it could be imagined. Do you identify yourself with a certain political party:I am a member of the Australian Greens. Religion:Atheist
Abortion:Respect a woman's right to choose. The Government has no place making this decision for women. War in Iraq:UPDATE: Completely opposed to the war - get everyone out of there ASAP. Celebrating that my countrymen and women had the intelligence to stop the madness... War in Afghanistan:UPDATE: I am now opposed to this war. Our presence has increased the drug trade and the Taliban is resurgent. Get out of there. Marijuana:Legalise along with other recreational drugs. Firearms:Completely against. Only keep weapons for jobs that require it, as well as things like hunting (and then only in very strictly limited sizes and amounts). Disarm the police force. Gay Marriage:Gays have a right to be married. Gay adoption:Gays have a right to adopt children, the same as Heterosexual couples. Religion in schools:Completely against - including Private Schooling. Death penalty: Abolish. European Union:Should be a Government with more power if the majority of people want it to be. Israel:Israel should go back to the borders it was created with in 1948, or at least the 1967 borders. Palestine has as much right to exist as a state as Israel does. Israel's actions in Gaza were completely morally reprehensible.
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Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
Nothing established by violence and maintained by force, nothing that degrades humanity and is based on contempt for human personality, can endure.
Country of Residence: United States of America Nationality: American. Blood heritage is German and English. Political Compass Results: Economic Left/Right: 1.00 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Moderate left Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Social libertarian(eh, roughly) Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: Independant. Religion: Agnostic, philosophically Buddhist.
Abortion: In 1st trimester, I'd consider it legal. Afterwards, no. War in Iraq: Against its authorization; However, I think we almost have to stay until Iraqi's can clean up after themselves. However, I don't think we've been putting enough pressure on them to get their butt into gear and get their own forces strong enough. Kinda hard, I s'pose, when Big Brother is there to protect you... War in Afghanistan: I think, honestly, we need to find an acceptable dictator who can strong arm the populace into some sense of docility. Ideally would be someone who could make a peaceful transition to Democracy in the next 10-20 years. I think the lesson here is that NO ONE will rule Afghanistan except for the Afghans. Trying to occupy it is an exercise in futility. Marijuana: Legalize it. In my country's case, we could use the extra revenue, plus I fail to see how it is much worse than smoking or alcohol. Firearms: Less restrictions, except for felons. Gay Marriage: Don't make religious institutions marry them, but allow a secular marriage. Marriage doesn't have to be religious, folks... Gay adoption: If they meet the same requirements that heterosexuals meet, then yes. Religion in schools: Allow for private schools to do what they want regarding it, but no public prayer in public schools. If kids want to pray during school, they should keep it from being a spectacle. Separation of church and state. Death penalty: Doesn't work, and ends up costing more money due to the process and appeals etc... So generally no. However, I do believe it should be an option for the very, very worst of humanity, such as for those convicted of crimes against humanity, aka Saddam or Robert Mugabe. European Union: Honestly, I don't know a whole lot about the inner workings of European politics. However, if they are genuinely trying to pass a democratic strategic alliance, they must abide by their own contract. But really, I'd rather they formed an actual singular entity, to oppose Russia.
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It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Country of Residence: Europe Nationality: more than one Political Compass Result: - Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Economicly right wing but with a social leaning concerning healthcare, pension and education , socially very liberal, EU-friendly. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Liberal (European) Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: Torn between the Green , the Conservative and the Liberal forces Religion: Catholic
Abortion: Should be avoided as much as possible (education etc), as the more I know the more I consider it a terrible and fatal decision against a human being, an unborn individual. War in Iraq: Against the initial invasion. Torn between a retreat and staying. Both could have dire consequences. Marijuana: Should be allowed and regulated less than alcohol. I have personally witnessed what drink and drive can do. Firearms: Should be restricted as much as possible. Gay Marriage: For; against forcing religious institutions of recognising anything.
Gay adoption: For. Religion in schools: (assuming that you mean actual faith-based schools and not just extension courses) I guess it is better to offer them to take control out of the hand of extremists. Death penalty: Against on a practical basis and for that matter; not sure if it's ever justified except for crimes against humanity.
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"Silent enim leges inter arma - For among arms, the laws fall mute"
Country of Residence: France
Nationality: French, Breton subspecies
Political Compass Results: Economic Left/Right: -9.25 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: left
Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): both slightly anarchist and christian-democrat
Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: no
Religion: None
Abortion: Up to the woman, fullpoint
War in Iraq: Shame on America
War in Afghanistan: can't be won, alas!
Marijuana: Legalize it. Take it away from criminal networks.
Firearms: only for hunting purpose
Gay Marriage: Don't care much
Gay adoption: If they meet the same requirements that heterosexuals meet, then yes (thanks Kamikhaan, just copied your sentence).
Religion in schools: What? Kids study religions during history lessons, that's enough.
Death penalty: some deserve it, but who am I to decide who deserves it? So it is no in any circumstances.
European Union: love the idea, but don't like the way it's built nowadays. should, in my mind, aim for a true political union.
Israël: definitely has the right to exist now, but no right to support colonist nutters as it does.
Last edited by Tristuskhan; 09-03-2009 at 12:37.
"Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"
Kentoc'h Mervel Eget Bezañ Saotret - Death feels better than stain, motto of the Breton People. Emgann!
Going to the land where men walk without footprints.
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Re: Political Leanings of Members
My Political Profile
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Country of Residence: Belgium Nationality: Belgian Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: I put myself at the centre of Belgian politics, leaning slightly to the right. Pro-EU. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Belgian Conservatives Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: CD&V Religion: Catholic, though more in name than in deeds
Abortion: Should be legal, I'm having trouble accepting foeti as living beings. Will probably change my opinion on that later. War in Iraq: The invasion was entirely illegal, but now the US has to remain there to clean up the mess. Marijuana: I'm against it in principle, though since it's here, anyone has the right to destroy his life, but he may not affect others. Firearms: Should be outlawed. Gay Marriage: Should be legal, can't force the Church to accept it though. Gay adoption: Legal Religion in schools: like it's regulated here in Belgium. The statenet offers both christian and atheistich lessons, the christian net should only offer christian education. Parents may choose between the nets.
Death penalty: Absolutly contra. The risk of murdering innocents is too high and I believe in second-chances.
Country of Residence: UK (Scotland)/China (Peking)
Nationality: British
Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 1.62 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.87
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Right-ish, middle-ish
Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Conservative (Though Cameron et al are a bit wet for my tastes)
Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: Conservative (see above)
Religion: Can't be bothered (do like a good hymn though - schooling...)
Abortion: Allow it
War in Iraq: We broke it, we stay 'til we fix it.
Marijuana: Ban it.
Firearms: Ban anything that's designed for anti-personel use. Why any civilian feels the need to carry an assault rifle is beyond me, and I'd strongly suspect them of being somewhat sociopathic.
Gay Marriage: Marriage should be a joyful affair. If you're talking about 'civil partnerships', fine go ahead, but don't call it marriage, because that's something else, and always has been.
Gay adoption: Don't be ridiculous.
Religion in schools: Only if it doesn't affect anyone - cross on a necklace - fine, wearing a tent - no. If the school is founded as a faith school, compulsory services are fine, otherwise, none whatsoever.
Death penalty: Bring it back, treason trials too (I can think of some candidates already). Oh, and fine the families as well - if they produce such a waste of oxygen, they should pay the penalty.
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Don't have any aspirations - they're doomed to fail.
Country of Residence: France Nationality: French Political Compass Result:Economic Left/Right: -6.50 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: from moderate-left to far left, depending on the issue Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): no Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: no Religion: Agnostic
Abortion: That's up to the woman, and certainly not the state's business War in Iraq: Invading Iraq was stupid as hell, but now you have to stay there to somehow clean the mess. Marijuana: Though I think it's more dangerous than alcohol and smoking, I wouldn't mind it being legalised, as it seems to be the best way to controle it. Firearms: I don't see any valuable reason to own or bear firearms nowadays, and thus think they should be banned permanently. Gay Marriage: Why not, though religious mariage is another issue. Gay adoption: Here, I'm sadly against, for numerous reasons. Religion in schools: Never, ever. It's already being taught as History, that's more than enough. Death penalty: I don't think anyone here is entitled to put an end to someone else's life (though I think some people deserve it).
Country of Residence: Gah Nationality: Gahish Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.62 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Lefty Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Not really Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: No Religion: No Abortion: No War in Iraq: Against war/occupation (and against war/occupation in Afghanistan) Marijuana: Legal for adults, let them kill themselves if they wish. Alcohol and tobacco already are legal in most countries and more die of this and on the roads, etc etc. At the end of the day stupid laws are no replacement for common sense and proper parenting. Firearms: No, why? Gay Marriage: Yes - who really cares (except gay people of course)? Gay adoption: Some reservations (i.e. I personally wouldn't want two gay parents) but all in all not bothered. Religion in schools: Yes but all religions and impartially as part of the history subject. Death penalty: Yes in exceptional cases but on the whole a reform of the prison system is needed.[/QUOTE]
Country of Residence: Vermont, USA Nationality: Irish, Scottish, English, Norwegian, Czech, Hungarian, approximately from most to least Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Social liberal, fiscally I'm fairly liberal too but not stereotypically so Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Definitely not Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: Even less so than any political grouping Religion: None. I'm atheist, but I don't care what others believe so long as it doesn't interfere in politics.
Abortion: Is a bad option most of the time, but early pregnancy abortions should be legal. War in Iraq: A bad idea in just about every way, but I'm not decided on what we should do now that we've made a mess of it. Marijuana: Legalize small quantities, tax it. Firearms: Civilian ownership shouldn't be infringed, but firearms should be regulated, especially those which are best suited to killing people. Gay Marriage: Sure. Gay adoption: Sure, they should be held to the same standards as straight couples, but sure. Religion in schools: Public schools don't need it, and I am very much against religion playing a role in them. I don't really care about private schools, though I do think private schools are a bad idea in general. Death penalty: A bad idea. The death penalty is costly, taxes the legal system and because there can never be any certainty that an individual committed a crime we might as well throw them in a hole for the rest of their lives rather than kill them.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
. Country of Residence: Turkey Nationality: I don't believe in nations. I'm a Turk, which I define as a Turkish speaking Muslim. But I have several different strains in my genes contributing to my ethnicity.
Political Compass Result:
Economic Left/Right: -5.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08
(Much more leftist and libertarian than my last time. However, it'd be better off giving me a shadow point way top right. )
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Mostly left but in some aspects right. Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Liberal Democratic/Constitutional Monarchist Do you identify yourself with a certain political party: No Religion: Islam
Abortion: Homicide War in Iraq: Abominable. But I understand that it's necessary for the existence of US as it is. War in Afghanistan: Imperialism Marijuana: Should be legalised under strict control. Firearms: Strict control. Including law enforcers. Gay Marriage: I approve. Gay adoption: Unacceptable concerning children. Religion in schools: On demand. Religious families have the right to provide their children with religious education. Religious culture should be taught to all. Death penalty: Absolutely necessary for crimes such as homicide, rape, coup attempt etc. European Union: A necessary counter-balancing element against the behemothic American influence and increasing Russian pressure. Israel: No country should exist based on ethno-religious causes. The Jews have the right to live wherever they wish, including the Holy Land indeed but an exclusive Jewish state has been only creating problems and will go on doing so. Therefore, whatever it's named, a new state should be established based on modern democratic foundations and answering to the demands of the population of whatever ethnic or religious background. All kinds of extremists should be eliminated in the process.
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Reason: Reviewed and updated.
Country of Residence:US Nationality: mixed western euro & amerind Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 6.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.05 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: off-chart, upper-right Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): no Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: no Religion: no preference
Abortion: no War in Iraq: no Marijuana: yes Firearms: yes Gay Marriage: yes. But not mandatory for me. Gay adoption: yes Religion in schools:no Death penalty: no
Country of Residence: UK - England Nationality: English Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right -9.75, Social Libertarian / Authoritarian -8.97 - seems you do get more right wing with age, I seem to remember getting -9.8 - 9.9, well I at least get more authoritarian ;) Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Not as left economically as the test makes me out, the questions are far, far too basic. I believe in the state, but also a role for private enterprise to help the state, a big concession for me in the last few years. I am however very liberal on social issues, very, very liberal. Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): I used to state to everybody that I was a socialist, I still am to some extent, but I think it would be fairer to state that now I am probably more of a liberal social democrat, than a liberal socialist. Do you identify yourself with a certain political party: I have been a member of the Labour Party - in the UK, believe it or not - for, er, 5 years now I think. Religion: A somewhat militant Atheist.
Abortion: Is a great thing, I have NO problem with it and I think it should be actively encouraged for many people as another form of contraception providing it is before 24 weeks. After that I think abortion is disgusting and should never be granted and undertaken unless in the cases of incest, risk to mothers life, other horrible complications for the mother / baby, terrible illness for the baby and deemed necessary.
War in Iraq: I foolishly supported it at the time because I didn't think my government would lie like it did - but it did. Since then I have been vehemently against it and have argued for the troops to have been brought home for 4 years now.
Marijuana: Legalise it, how long is it gonna blimming take! So many benefits, no negatives.
Firearms: If you are for them and are not American, you are crazy; if you are American, you are still crazy, but at least you have some tenuous constitutional argument to hide behind. More guns = more deaths. Get rid of them!
Gay Marriage: Legalise it / let it happen. Pure discrimination and no business of anyone bar the people it involves.
Gay Adoption: Allow it. Pure discrimination and all children need is a loving, caring environment.
Religion in Schools: NO. Never. No to religious schools and prayer in school, it has no place.
Death Penalty: NO. It is no disincentive to criminals, you can't bring the dead back to life if innocent, I don't want the state being able to have the power to kill people like this and most importantly - it is morally bankrupt and plain wrong.
European Union: I am in favour of a United States of Europe. A very close and federalised EU, in which there is a EU wide governing body and each State retains their own political structure but it is firmly below that of the EU executive and legislature. Too many benefits of this to mention, but I firmly believe it is in the best interests of everyone inside the EU.
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GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else. Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
Country of Residence: Australia Nationality: British Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Centrist Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Socialism Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: None Religion: None
Abortion: Yes War in Iraq: No Marijuana: Yes Firearms: Yes Gay Marriage: Yes Gay adoption: Yes Religion in schools: No Death penalty: Yes
Last edited by Mikeus Caesar; 03-17-2008 at 04:14.
Originally Posted by Ranika
I'm being assailed by a mental midget of ironically epic proportions. Quick as frozen molasses, this one. Sharp as a melted marble. It's disturbing. I've had conversations with a braying mule with more coherence.
Country of Residence: United States Nationality: American Political Compass Result: Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Fiscial Conservative, Constutionist Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): None Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: None Religion: No organized church - but consider myself a christian
Abortion: Personal Choice 1st Trimester, Medical necessity after War in Iraq: Yes, method of carrying it out questionable Marijuana: Dont Care Firearms: Yes Gay Marriage: Let each state decide Gay adoption: Let each state decide Religion in schools: personal choice Death penalty: Some crimes warrant the death penelty
Last edited by Redleg; 03-17-2008 at 13:10.
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
Country of Residence: USA Nationality: American Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 1.12 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: social liberal, market liberal Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): None Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: None, personally I think political parties are to be despised Religion: atheist though I hope to find out I'm wrong Abortion: Pro, even infantcide would okay with me so long as done within a month of birth War in Iraq: Supported the invasion though now feel it was a mistake, support current operations because I believe the US can 'win' and out of obligation to the Iraqis for screwing their country up War in Afghanistan: I support the reason for invading and current operations. I feel that there is no simple solution and that the US should stay there until Afghanistan is stable enough to support itself, even if this takes decades. Also, there should be far more cooperation with Pakistan so we can conduct operations together so that the Taliban and Al Queda can't just cross the border to escape the independent operations of the coalition and Pakistan. Marijuana: Don't use but don't consider it a drug either, should be 100% legal with only an age restriction Firearms: All small arms short of fully automatic weapons should be legal though to hold them I think a firearms education/competance course should be taken as well Gay Marriage: sure, it's not for me but I see no reason to oppose it either, think the government should have nothing to do with marriage Gay adoption: I'd rather not see homosexuals adopt because I feel those children will be raised 'incorrectly' though I wouldn't want laws to oppose it Religion in schools: religion should be out of schools but if kids want to pray before eating, wear a scarf (if school has no uniform/dress code such as an exercise uniform; there should be no excuse to have a different uniform for PE based on religion) then they should be able to. Prayer would not, however be an excuse to get out of class or to disrupt class, prayer during recess or meals sure but during class hours no. Creationism should not be taught as alternate theory to evolution. Death penalty: If there is 100% certainy of guilt and the criminal has admited to the crime and consents to death as well. Additionally, I feel that lethal injection and all that is a waste of time, hanging should be the way to go.
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"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
Four stage strategy from Yes, Minister:
Stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
Country of Residence: Australia Nationality: British/Australian (Dual-Citizenship) Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -3.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Libertarian Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping: No Do you identify yourself with a certain political party: Greens Religion: Agnostic/Canaanite. I believe there could be a Yahweh. I have a belief based heavily on ancient Jewish tradition of Wisdom, Goodness and Kindness --- but not later Jewish tradition borrowed from the Greeks of a Heaven and Hell. Essentially the here and now, the absurd and the moral.
Abortion: Legal in all cases, but adoption/counselling should be considered and offered as an alternative. War in Iraq: Deserves a proper solution. War in Afghanistan: Fighting there is not worth the cost, both in lives or taxpayers money. Marijuana: Legalise and regulate. Firearms: Only if properly controlled. Gay Marriage: Yes. Gay adoption: Yes, in terms of stable, loving parents. Religion in schools: No indoctrination, but students should be given a broad idea of many religions so as to gain the knowledge to choose for themselves. Some teaching needs to be provided, as if students/children/people are ignorant they are open to exploitation or manipulation. Death penalty: No. European Union: For in theory, though the legislation needs to be more transparent and the whole structure needs a re-think. I can't see a strong Europe being bad for its member nations in an economic sense. Immigration is a major issue that I'd like to be resolved. Israel: Slightly Pro-Palestinian. Anti-extremist on both sides.
Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Country of Residence: USA Nationality: American Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.08 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Free market, great individual freedom Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Libertarian Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: Republican, somewhat reluctantly Religion: Roman Catholic
Abortion: No. War in Iraq: Sigh, stupid in hindsight, but we have to fix the mess we made. War In Afghanistan: For. A no-brainer, really. Marijuana: Decriminalized. Firearms: Besides laws against ownership by violent felons and the insane, I'm basically in favor of no restrictions on small arms (small pistols to all manner of automatic weapons) being owned or carried. To be armed is to be free. Gay Marriage: Against completely. Gay adoption: Against completely. Religion in schools: Not sure exactly, but religious schools should be allowed and funded through vouchers, and religion in public schools should not be prevented. Death penalty: For. Scientifically proven to deter criminals and save lives! European Union: For a totalitarian super state that exercises complete control over all European's lives and restricts economic competitiveness, so America doesn't have another economic rival. One rival's enough, thank you.
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Reason: Added Afghan war and EU
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Country of Residence: Norway Nationality:Norwegian Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -1.50 - Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-5.28 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: centre Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): in no way Do you identify yourself with a certain political party: no Religion: atheist
Abortion: pro War in Afghanistan: I am all for direct self defence; but when civilians in one country are getting killed to save civilians in another country, whether unintentional or not, the moral purpose is defeated. War in Iraq: useless Marijuana: no greater reason to ban marijuana than cigarettes Firearms: pro shotguns and non-automatic rifles, pistols Gay Marriage: pro civil, indifferent to religious Gay adoption: inclined to be pro Religion in schools: not as an independent subject Death penalty: can never be justified European Union: a unified Europe/world is all well and good, but I do not know enough about the union to take a stance.
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Reason: Afghanistan and European Union
Country of Residence:Malaysia Nationality:Malaysian (ethnic Chinese) Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -1.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum:Moderate left-ish Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc):"social libertarian" is the closest approximation Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party:Democratic Action Party (DAP) Religion: Atheist
Abortion:Completely up to the mother. Definitely against illegalising it. War in Iraq:Illegal invasion. Against invasion then, against occupation now. Leave them alone. It's their country. Marijuana:Legalise it. Don't see how it's worse than tobacco or alcohol, except that the latter two are sanctioned by tradition. Firearms:Against. In my view it is distinct from freedom of speech and otehr civil liberties-- it is not an inherent right. May be granted by special permit, but it is a privilege, not a right. Gay Marriage:For. There shouldn't even be a differentiation between the status of heterosexual and homosexual marriage. Gay adoption:For. See above. Religion in schools:Against. As in politics, education should be completely secular. Religion is a private matter, and is none of the state's business. Death penalty:Against, out of principle. Aside from the fact that it is a barbaric practice, it is my belief that nobody is beyond redemption.
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Country of Residence: United Kingdom (Scotland some might say) Nationality: British (maybe Scottish - undecided, although part Northern Irish) Political Compass Result:
Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.08
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Mid-far left Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): No Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: No, don't know what to make of the SNP, hate New Labour/Conservatives Religion: Presbyterian
Abortion: Against, never understood liberal support for it. It is murder. War in Iraq: Against on the whole, although now we're committed we have to clear it up. Marijuana: Should not be legalised, big crack down on drugs needed. Firearms: Against, no need for it these days. Or at least should be extrememly difficult to obtain. Gay Marriage: Against. An absolute farce trying to bring in the church. Less hostile to civil partnerships, though I still really don't like the idea. Gay adoption: Very strongly against, just plain wrong for the child. Can't emphasise this point enough. It is just so wrong. Religion in schools: Schools should be secular and not cater to individual religions. Especially against sectarian schooling systems. Like Scottish Catholic/Non-denomination system. Death penalty: For. The less money spent on criminals (I mean serious offenders), the more can be spent on improving life for innocent people. It's not that I want to punish them (guillotine is the way to go, not cruel ways as in USA), its just that others shouldn't suffer further because of them.
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At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Country of Residence: USA Nationality: US Mutt (Irish/German mostly) Political Compass Result:
Economic Left/Right: -3ish
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5ish
(Don't remember exact numbers)
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Leftish Libertarian, pretty much where I ended up Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Nope Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: No Religion: Atheist agnostic.
Abortion: Legal first 3 months, victim of rape up to 6ish, life in danger or any valid medical reason any time. War in Iraq: Against from the start and still am. The situation is not fixable, so we need to set some hard dates and get out, sooner than later. Marijuana: I don't really care if people want to do it at home, but as an employer I want to be able to discriminate against users (it does make you slower folks, that's a fact). Firearms: Absolutely yes. Restrictions for criminal offenders or people with medical mental instability/issues. Gay Marriage: Fully support. Marriage, union, don't care what you call it. Homosexual couples deserve the exact same legal rights and standing as everyone else. I don't care what religious institutions think or how they handle it, that's not a government issue. Gay adoption: Absolutely. There is zero proof of any kind of harm to a child's development from this. Religion in schools: Absolutely against. School is education, dogma is a personal matter to be handled by the parents at home. Obviously schools associated with a religious institution are an exception. Death penalty: Yes, with reservations. I think the justice (and overall legal) system needs an overhaul in certain areas and aspects.
Edit - Few clarifications
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"Justice is the firm and continuous desire to render to everyone
that which is his due." - Justinian I
Country of Residence: Sweden Nationality: Swedish Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Totalitarian Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): It used to be socialism, but now I'm more of a nihilist, misanthrope, fascist, totalitarian and so forth. I hold anarchism (i.e. revolution) as a necessary mean to achieve the greater goals though. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: No Religion: Atheist
Abortion: Brings less people to the world. Pro. War in Iraq: All wars serve the greater purpose, whatever their political or economic motive may be, so pro. Marijuana: Pro. Firearms: Against (not in the hands of citizens). Gay Marriage: Pro. Gay adoption: Pro. Religion in schools: Against. Death penalty: Pro.
It's not easy being a man, you know. I had to get dressed today... And there are other pressures.
Country of Residence: USA Nationality: USA & UK Political Compass Result:
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Economic conservative, Social liberal Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Liberal Do you identify yourself with a certain political party: No, though I tend to vote Democrat Religion: Raised as Reform Judaism. Currently non-defined spiritualist/humanist.
Abortion: Legal for all reasons in 1st trimester. Legal at all times for health of the mother. Other cases left up to the states/community to decide. War in Iraq: Opposed from the beginning and want withdrawal immediately. Marijuana: Legalize it Firearms: More thorough background checks and longer waiting periods, but no absolute restrictions on ownership Gay Marriage: In favor Gay adoption: In favor Religion in schools: Not in favor Death penalty: Theoretically in favor, practically opposed. I believe death is a worthy punishment for some crimes. However I also believe the current US system has a very high degree of error which risks execution of innocents, which I consider to be completely unacceptable. Unless the justice system can come up with a fool-proof system to guarantee that innocent people are not executed, I believe the death penalty should be abolished.
Country of Residence: Netherlands Nationality: British Political Compass Result: Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56
(I dislike that test and don't feel it reflects my views) Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Nowhere in particular. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): No. Do you indentify yourself with a certain political party: No. Religion: Agnostic.
Abortion: Against in all cases except life-threatening to the mother. In addition, better adoptions system and better information/options on contraceptives. War in Iraq: Against the invasion, certainly since there were far more pressing issues left to sort out in Afghanistan. For remaining there in the absence of better alternatives. Marijuana: Legalize, tax. Firearms: Legalize, with required registration, heavy taxes and ban on handguns. Gay Marriage: Against. Civil union, I can live with. Gay adoption: Against, but mainly because the whole adoption system needs a long, good look-in. Religion in schools: Should be allowed, in the broad sense of giving students an overview. No preaching in the class. Death penalty: For, as an extremely visible exception in the very worst and most clear-cut of cases.
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"The facts of history cannot be purely objective, since they become facts of history only in virtue of the significance attached to them by the historian." E.H. Carr
Country of Residence: Portugal
Nationality: Portuguese
Political Compass Result:
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54
Where do you put yourself on the political spectrum: Moderate (
Do you identify yourself with a certain political grouping (socialist, neocon, etc): Liberal
Do you identify yourself with a certain political party: No...
Religion: Raised non-practicing Catholic, currently Atheist/Apatheist
Abortion: Legal for all reasons in 1st trimester. Legal at all times for health of the mother, rape, etc.
War in Iraq: Completely opposed to it before it happened, am for gradual withdrawal as soon as the country is stable, Bush and company should be brought up on charges for it.
Marijuana: legalize it...
Firearms: Hunting and target shooting weapons are legal, all other firearms especially concealable and/or military category firearms should be illegal for anyone expect police, army.
Gay Marriage: Gay people should have the same rights as straight people concerning civil marriage, religious marriage is a matter for each individual religion to decide.
Gay adoption: Undecided...pending towards allowing it.
Religion in schools: The only reference to religion in school should be in the context of history class, if people want their children religiously indoctrinated send them to your local church/temple/whatever, school is a place of reason and logic.
Death penalty: Abolish it, I believe that a society has no right to condemn someone to be put to death if they are already in jail and are thus no danger to anyone, if society executes a criminal for his crimes we are no better than him.
I am whoever for the issuing of life prison sentences with forced labour for major crimes, and for a more aggressive use of force by police forces, by this I include the use of lethal force against suspects that violently resist arrest and/or try to attack a police officer and/or take hostages and/or to protect the lives of innocent bystanders.
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
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