Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I have the power to stop a murder, and I need to be vague on how for reasons I will explain after the night ends. You'll get either my death or an explanation, unless you absolutely insist on knowing how today.
Fair?
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
Vote: Brickfaced
I hope those bricks are laced with thermally-insulated mercury.
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#Montytoostronger
...this is a terrible idea.
You are all targets now.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
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#Montytoostronger
Yeah, how is protection going to work if there are now multiple valid targets for the mafia to hit?
The doctor's reveal was fine, a good idea, but I can't say the same about your reveal (especially that you have some sort of ability) and anyone else who decides to join you.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
Didn't I just go through this nonsense?
Fine. I'll go through it again.
http://www.giraffeboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32
Townie called for a mass reveal after the game is essentially over and nothing but townies had died. Nobody backed him up except me. We insisted on the reveal, and said we would vote for ourselves and therefore hold the game hostage unless there was a mass reveal.
The folks who insisted it was a horrible idea for the town WERE THE MAFIA. The townies complied.
We lynched 5 of the scumbags in a row and won.
Claim now, Chaotix.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
I see half the living players claim, then I'll do it myself.
Not before. The mafia can pick and choose who they want to kill and any protection is rendered useless.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
If all reveal, we all become targets - as before.
If all reveal, we can wink the scum out through cross-checks, double checks, enhanced social monitoring, redundancy, and event logging.
Muster your courage and arise, townies. Only the lynched scum have seen the end of networking.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
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And yes, all 5 lynches were lynch or lose for the town. Especially fun was hearing them scream "there's no case on me!" before they died.
The people scared to claim were scum. Simple simple. Do you know how many rounds remain? If two mafia, we're not sunk yet, but doubtful this is the case in a game with power roles.
Three mafia? What about 3 mafia and a sk? Other variations, like in Capo where the communists had a cell that didn't know each other at the start? We don't know the setup and we're getting a beatdown- at this point I am assuming we are at lynch or lose, or next round is lynch or lose (with a standard 3 mafiosi setup) assuming worst case no scums dead.
That's why not claiming actually hurts town and helps the mafia. We need a correct lynch today, not tomorrow.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
It only works if everyone does it. If I join you two and the rest of the town sits on its thumbs, which incidentally is rather likely since we have a bunch of lurkers, then me revealing is a detriment to the town.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
You're making good points, and I see why you are suspicious of me.
Which is why it is sad that you are so wrong.
To be fair, it is probably my fault. I should have said nothing and waited to see what would happen.
What I am interested in is how you plan to protect the professor.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
I am interested in it.
All are active enough.1.
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4.
5. Chaotix
6. Brickfaced
7. Ishmael
8.
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14. Robbiecon
15. Ironside
I will not be casting a vote for a few hours. The reason shall become transparent.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
Yeah, I think I've got it.
There's no way you can be a doctor. Because you are a woman, and this is the 1950's.
Anyway I am muddling around a decision. No PM rule is killing me here, because I would reveal to Monty in a heartbeat.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
Maybe I'm a woman from say, 2012 who is a doctor and the other doctor used a time machine and fell in love with me and brought me back to the 1950s.
Yes, a stretch. But let me put it this way: your line of inquiry caused more damage to the town than simply claiming your role in the first place. Now we can assume that I am not a doctor and that you are some other kind of powerful town role.
Had you simply bluffed, we might have been able to keep us all alive. Come on Chaotix, it's not Chess, it's Poker.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
Nah.
If you can read this
Unless your way of protecting the doctor is dying in his place, then things are better this way.
without highlighting it
And since you said you would explain tomorrow, I'm assuming that's not the case.
then it wouldn't work
Besides, the mafia are going to think I'm lynchbait and leave me alive.
and I made a good call
I was really contemplating telling you to read between the lines and then filling it with a white-text roleclaim, but I realized not everybody uses the Morbid skin.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
I'm hammering you because it's more difficult to craft an endgame strategy and a claim under immediate circumstances not knowing what the other claims will be.
Your continual delays on claiming cause me to believe your eventual claim less and less.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
You've got nothing to lose now, C.
You've essentially admitted to being an essential role, because you refuse to claim and are trying to craft ways of claiming that are indirect.
So the mafia know you're a target if you survive. What precisely are you benefiting the town by not full-claiming at this point?
I'm almost at the point where I want to let it go, but the damage is done. I want to know the role now. Might help me redirect my vote.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
Nope. There it is. That's what I needed.
You believe I am town, but you are still voting for me unless I reveal.
I think you are a double-bluffing scum right now. There is too much SRSbznss in your posts and not enough ATPG.
You claim you can protect the doctor, which is wrong.
You are a lying, traitorous, two-timing communist and no one will believe me but there it is.
Vote: ATPG
I am sorry. Got a hunch and won't let go of it. I hate that I always do this. I am probably wrong, but you are scum.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
Wow, you're right I had been slightly leaning town on you and was about to unvote, but there's nothing at this point that you have left to hide. You just cannot come up with a good lie.
You are scum. That was the breaking point. You couldn't come up with a claim and now you're caught and sunk.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
Hammer them in real time, folks. That's how you get them.
Lies are difficult to make up on the spot. You have to be confident they'll work even after other people claim. Chaotix just chickened out.
Cluck cluck.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
Please, I can come up with plenty of good lies if I need to. You have seen me in action. In fact I have practically revealed just through the posts I have made. Read between the lines.
This is not ATPG in scum-hunting mode, this is ATPG in scum-picking mode.
Granted, I am like the ripest scum apple on the scum tree here, but you're still picking and not hunting.
This is why you are mafia.
Last edited by Chaotix; 09-06-2012 at 03:58. Reason: damn it grammar
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
If you're spectating and still alive, you need to get involved. The same holds true for you: If you don't claim willingly, after the core of the town just told you to claim, then you're scum.
Chaotix, the only reason you "find me scummy" is I asked you to claim after Monty asked everyone to claim. You also know how to scum-hunt and this isn't that.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
No, I just have this really stupid idiot gut feeling and you are actually not denying what I just said which means you are scum.
Incidentally, what will you do when I flip town?
After you kill Monty, I mean.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
1. You didn't deny that you're not scum-hunting.
2. If you are so set on me being mafia, why do you still care what my role is? Answer: because you know I am town because you are mafia and you want to know what sort of deadly secrets I have that might make me a better kill than Monty tonight, assuming the lynch-wagon does not consume me.
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer: The Gameroom
I'm still here. It is possible that one silent person is being prevented from posting. If this is the case, I'm not responsible but I know how it was done. Others know this too, assuming the roles are consistent -- I'd have to read back through the reveals to find out how many.
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