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    A rare example of an early Gallic cemetery from the 4th-3rd centuries BC:

    http://www.archeologia.be/actualiteinraptroyes.html



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    Great Find Brennus but unfortunately i dont know even a word of french but pics are more than 1000 words
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    Ok, for the sake of those like Velho who can't read French (conversely I know nothing of Suomi) the main points:

    This is a site in the plain of Troyes in the Marne region. Initially a Bronze Age site, in the shape of a horseshoe, existed, likely as a territorial marker. It was later used as a burial ground for in the Iron Age between the 4th and 3rd centuries. So far 14 graves have been excavated. They include men and women. The men had buried with a sword and lance and two individuals were also provided with a shield. The women received torques and bronze and lignite jewelry. Both men and women wore bronze brooches/fibulae some of which were decorated with coral (one of the few Mediterranean imports to temperate Europe at this time). As with other Gallic cemeteries, no children were interred.



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    Default Re: Rare Gallic excavation

    Also worth noting that if you use Chrome as your browser, it will offer to translate web pages in foreign languages for you which is a wonderful tool in situations like these.

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    Credit for this find must go to a friend of mine who I worked with on a Bituriges site a few years ago.



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    Also, a video showing some more details of the excavation:

    http://www.inrap.fr/archeologie-prev...ans-l-Aube.htm



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    Hmm and this time no chrome helps me as i understand spoken french even less

    As it seems to be really interesting indeed
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    Apologies, as soon as a good Iron Age excavation appears I will let you know. Would Swedish also be acceptable?



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    You dont need to apologise btw :) And my swedish skill aint that great actually as im far from the areas where its used and its sort of mandaroty that no one wants to learn.

    I barely passed my courses of it in high school, mainly as i cant write it and i have friend who understands french so i could ask him
    But if you manage to find anything i would like to learn, as it could be future profession to me.
    Also i can understand most of swedish talk and text can be translated by me
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    En länk till en svenskspråkig artikel skulle uppskattas. ^^

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    I kinda guessed this would happend :D im not entirely sure as my swedish is marked as 5 from 4-10 scale but its something about swedish article without looking at my books or translation so i think i got the meaning it must be about linking of swedish article
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    Well, this certainly seems to be a fantastic find. To my knowledge, Gallic sites such as these are almost impossibly rare to find. Do they have any ideas as to which tribe or group it belonged to?
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    I found out how bad my high school French really is on a recent trip to Belgium (went to Bruges, but got stuck in Charleroi for a day. Few English speakers and while I thought I was good at French, I really struggled).
    I picked out a few bits about rare opporunities to study such objects, especially weapons.
    My attention was drawn by the layout of the site. Especially in the aerial view. the arrangement of the larger structures (ditches) is strikingly linear. Of course there could be any number or reasons for this. Repect for previous monuments, local topography, a boundary line etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evocata View Post
    To my knowledge, Gallic sites such as these are almost impossibly rare to find.
    They are indeed. Cemeteries at this time tend to be very small and in use for only a short period of time, the panoply which these individuals were found with is typical of this time period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evocata View Post
    Do they have any ideas as to which tribe or group it belonged to?
    By the late Iron Age in Gaul, this area was controlled by the Tricasses, although whether they would have identified themselves by this name at the time this cemetery was in use is a matter of debate.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennus View Post
    Would Swedish also be acceptable?
    Not for a Finn it won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jirisys View Post
    Not for a Finn it won't.

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    Not necessarily, after English, Swedish (as far as I know) is the most commonly known language in Finland.



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    Unless you live on Åland, and they count as fins don't they?

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    Good ole Åland. But that is not Gallic.

    Back to you Rix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cahtush View Post
    Unless you live on Åland, and they count as fins don't they?
    Main areas where its spoken are Åland, and the west coast of finland, i live in middle finland and i dont even know anyone who speaks swedish as main here,
    So from my point of view its useless here, and also im high school for example we need to have 50/100 points to even pass the test so it makes me hate it even more.

    If i could even use it where i live it would be good, and yeah they are minority and they dont speak good finnish, like some finnishswedish visited our school,
    their finnishskill was worse than our swedish and that annoys me by the fact that they wont even bother to learn finnish what is the main languance and we need to learn theirs eventhough most of people dont need it.

    Also Åland is counted as independent area, it has its own laws and swedish is main there and if you want to live there you need to know it well, but its about halfway of the baltic sea to sweden. So they are more swedish than finnish.

    If they would not force us to read it we would have better opinion to it.
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    For those who can't understand the text w/o chrome you can simply go to google translate and paste the link of the page in translate from French to English box and it will give you the page translated almost all in English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad-Tudor View Post
    For those who can't understand the text w/o chrome you can simply go to google translate and paste the link of the page in translate from French to English box and it will give you the page translated almost all in English.
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    For those who can't understand a text in french, even with the translation tools... i could be able to translate it.
    Not that i speak a wonderful English, but i think i can explain pretty well for those who are interested and don't understand french.

    Also thank you Brennus for this link :)
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    Bienvenue monsieur.



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