Having spent time with such groups, I don't believe - I know.Originally Posted by Fragony
Freaks, punks and squatters make up the active core. They are more likely to have a history of a dad with active hands than lots of money.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Having spent time with such groups, I don't believe - I know.
Freaks, punks and squatters make up the active core. They are more likely to have a history of a dad with active hands than lots of money.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Freaks punks ans squaters are the active core, agreed. But than the comming of age comes and they become lawyers, or get a job at a NGO. And you know that's true. The extreme left has no problem with having a choice, they just have too much time to be bothering with making one, it's a hobby, pretty soon they will be wearing a tie.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Former anarchists have a tendency to get a degree in sociology or similar, yes. Anarachist organizations are already NGO's, and quite a few stick to that field.
They do not tend to become lawyers.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
The tend to not be anything other than bored rich kids. Radical lefties always come from well-off families.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Patently false, sorry.
I suggest you read up on the Sex Pistols.
Also, I'm a radical leftie. Where is my well-off family?
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-01-2014 at 15:06.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
The Antifascists over here were actually working class, the rich kids snobbed away at things such as the demonstrations. What happened then is that the fascists used to take pictures of them, attempting to track down their names and addresses and post them on a website called 'Red Watch', then they used to terrorise those people by mailing them dogpoop, egging their houses, encouraging crimes such as destruction of their property, spray painting the houses, and all that fun stuff.
Last edited by Beskar; 09-01-2014 at 23:08.
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Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Are you going to mob-rule demonstrations wearing the typical black clothes and arafat-swahls?
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Last edited by HoreTore; 09-01-2014 at 18:33.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Not the hardcore then.
Cute http://stopantifa.files.wordpress.co...ric_antifa.jpg
Antifacists lol
Last edited by Fragony; 09-01-2014 at 19:06.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
If Blitz doesn't qualify, I'm at a loss at figuring out who you're talking about.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Well the antifa. Rediculously violent militant leftist activists. Glad you are not one of them. Easily reckognised by their black clothes and yellow flags.
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Antifa (AFA) is based at Blitz. Lovely chaps, mostly composed of freaks and commies(I'm a commie).
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-01-2014 at 19:50.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
I know you are a commie that's ok. But these so-called anti-facists aren't interested in any debate. They are exactly what they say they oppose. The police and secret services are a whole lot more interested in them than they are in flagwaving knuckleheads.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
I've had several debates with them, Frags
...And they are certainly not "100% rich white kids", as you claim.
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-01-2014 at 20:16.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Their flag seems oddly reminiscent of the Nazi Party flag. Seriously, who among them decided to make their flag red, white and black with the logo placed in a white circles on a red background?
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Unfortunately, Red-Black are the typical colours of revolutionary, anarchy and all that fun stuff. Sometimes Red and Black diagonal or horizontal.Their flag seems oddly reminiscent of the Nazi Party flag. Seriously, who among them decided to make their flag red, white and black with the logo placed in a white circles on a red background?
Complete similarities are silly, yes.
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Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Hey, I housed one chez Frag for a few months, good friend. We kinda disagree of courseI've had several debates with them, Frags
...And they are certainly not "100% rich white kids", as you claim.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Anarchism pre-dates nazism by about a century.Their flag seems oddly reminiscent of the Nazi Party flag. Seriously, who among them decided to make their flag red, white and black with the logo placed in a white circles on a red background?
You might want to ask why the Nazis copied the anarchist movement.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
I know anarchists historically used the black/red diagonal flag Tiaexz mentioned, but I'm pretty sure the guys in that pic are a post-WWII group so they made a pretty idiotic design choice IMO.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
They use the same type of flag that's been in use for well over a century. I see no reason why the anarchists should change their iconography because of nazism.
It's like asking the French to change their flag if someone did something bad using the colours red, white and blue.
These flags are also used in numbers, and the diagonal line creates an effect you can't confuse with a nazi flag. Further, the antifascist movement started in the 20's, not post-ww2.
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-02-2014 at 09:42.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Does it matter, they have ties to/sympathise- with goverments that are worse than the nazi's ever were. But ohhhh so self-rightious. Churchill was right.
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....And who might that be?
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
KGB, FARC (direct ties) former RAF, extreme leftists organisations spread all over Europe.
Last edited by Fragony; 09-02-2014 at 12:17.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
As I suspected - this is a mix which doesn't make much sense.
A maoist group, for example, won't have ties with the KGB. That's heresy.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
If this particular flag in the picture was around before Nazism, then fair enough. But if it was made post-WWII (and I suspect it was because it looks pretty modern) then I maintain that it is an idiotic design choice. If Frags hadn't posted that and I seen those guys coming up my street, my first thought would be that they were Nazis.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
The design of the flag predates nazism, yes. The red(socialism) and black(anarchism) theme has been around since anarchists and communists started working together in the 19th century.
And if you saw in the streets, you would see alternating red and black colours. I can't see how you would confuse that with nazis.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
That particular flag existed before Nazism? Really? Can you prove this?
It is not just colour, it is design. They both have black logos in a white circle centred on a red background. The only difference is they replaced a black swastika with a blag flag.
I'm sure you can see how that could be misinterpreted by the ordinary layman.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Your first thought wouldn't be that far off. Meet the extreme left.
Last edited by Fragony; 09-02-2014 at 14:57.
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
About political colors (colours if you prefer).
wikipiece
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Re: Should I go to this political rally, as democrat?
Knock yourself out.
Black and red diagonally, any text and/or logo in white. Standard anarchosyndicalism, been around for a century.
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-02-2014 at 15:56.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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