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    Default Spartan Agoge movement bug

    After completing Spartan agoge and the following 2 year service, family member is stuck in Sparte with 0 movement points.
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    Default Re: Spartan Agoge movement bug

    Same here.

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    Default Re: Spartan Agoge movement bug

    A similar problem - after getting the 'enemy camp captured' trait, the movement penalty sticks even after losing the trait the following turn.

    A few more camps captured and my king will be immobile!
    Last edited by mmiki; 09-04-2014 at 17:35.
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    Default Re: Spartan Agoge movement bug

    Ok, I used a submod that calculates squalor and movement point bonuses and displays them as a trait: (Total Effect Points Info. It's for Third Age Total War, but the 'manual merge' version works just fine on pretty much anything.

    Anyway, I was trying to see if there's some sort of a hidden penalty, and the answer is no. Two generals with the same movement bonuses, and the other can't move as far because of this weird bug. It's like his base movement points got decreased somehow.
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    Default Re: Spartan Agoge movement bug

    It turns out that in the export_decs_traits, movement penalties for starting and ended spartan agoge are the same, therefore the character is stuck in Sparta
    Trait SpartanAgoge
    Characters family
    ExcludeCultures cul_5, cul_4, cul_2, cul_7, cul_6
    NoGoingBackLevel 3
    AntiTraits AgogePaidiskos, AgogeKrypteia, FailedAgoge, SpartanFailedAgoge, ExcelledAgoge, BarelyCompletedAgoge, CompletedAgoge

    Level In_Spartan_Agoge
    Description In_Spartan_Agoge_desc
    EffectsDescription In_Spartan_Agoge_effects_desc
    GainMessage In_Spartan_Agoge_gain_desc
    Threshold 2

    Effect Command -5
    Effect Piety -5
    Effect MovementPoints -20

    Level Finished_Spartan_Agoge
    Description Finished_Spartan_Agoge_desc
    EffectsDescription Finished_Spartan_Agoge_effects_desc
    Threshold 9

    Effect Command -5
    Effect Piety -5
    Effect MovementPoints -20

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    Default Re: Spartan Agoge movement bug

    Yea that is supposed to be erased by an anti-trait nullifying it, but due to bugs etc., it doesn't.

    I'm having a go at rewriting the whole agoge / (later olympics) code. I've looked at it and I can see a way to do it, but it would take several days. Several days I don't have due to looming deadlines of paper publications/conference presentations/thesis due in 5 months.

    EDIT: For the time being, use the Hot-Fix from https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...rait-mechanics which fixed a bunch of stuff and disables agoge/olympics
    Last edited by Twigvest; 10-20-2014 at 04:32.
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