I read anything who source to standards. There are plenty of more articles. I just wanted to start out soft with Paltmull, as I fear he would TILT ERROR if overwhelmed.Originally Posted by HoreTore
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I read anything who source to standards. There are plenty of more articles. I just wanted to start out soft with Paltmull, as I fear he would TILT ERROR if overwhelmed.
Re: Swedish election results are in
Kadagar_AV, oh wow...
First of all: I know the Hitler reference was terrible, but you seem to completely have missed the argument I was making. I was not comparing SD to Hitler, I was trying to show the absurdity about you voting for a party no matter what individuals are in the party or what their opinions are as long as they follow the party line. Second: I did not accuse SD for what anonymos people on the internet think and do, but I did accuse them for having a high ranking member who is heavily involved in a racist hate site.
Third: Jesus Christ, I've been trying to make the point about starting a new party twice now and you still don't seem to get it. Fragony, who is usually with you on these issues, gets it. Why can't you? I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU OR ANYONE SHOULD START A NEW PARTY NOW!!!!!!!!! I'M QUESTIONING THE FACT THAT JIMMIE ÅKESSON AND OTHERS DIDN'T DO THAT ORIGINALLY. Was SD the third biggest party when Jimmie joined it back in '95? NO OF COURSE NOT, they were a bunch of fascists that he reformed to become the third biggest party in Sweden. Why should I, or anyone, trust someone like that?
I'm ignoring you calling me brainwashed. You tend to do those things whenever I enter a discussion, and it's quite tiresome.
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Someone got his panties in a twist...
I'll return when something sensible is written, or I have more ****ing care to give than now.
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I'll just throw in a source more close to Paltmulls ideological reasoning...
This from Swedens premiere leftist magazine, about Swedens probably best known journalist: WHO OPENLY CLAIM SWEDISH MEDIA IS NOT OBJECTIVE AT ALL WHEN IT COMES TO IMMIGRATION.
He is even calling it the swedish journalists greatest betrayal. As people who are for multiculturalism goes unquestioned, while anyone questioning it are = racist.
Good, we got that settled then?
It's fun how even the leftist moronic media start to have their back against the wall.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article12043473.ab
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For the non-swedes who might be wondering just what organization SD grew out of, here's a picture of the group Jimmie Åkesson joined back in the 90's:
Totally not fascist. Not in any way at all.
IT'S THE LIBERAL MEDIA I TELL YOU
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Nobody says it better. http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven....html#comments
I don't like the SD mind you, but I toally share his contempt.
Last edited by Fragony; 09-24-2014 at 17:23.
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I hate to debate with people like HT, but when unwanted people forcibly join a thread in dramatic ways, even when being kindly and not so kindly told to, well, **** off as the political extremists they are...
1. Where is Jimmie Åkesson in that picture?
2. How are those guys representative of the party 2014?
3. I see 7 people in that picture. SD just got around ONE MILLION AND A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THEM, out of a 9 million population... That roughly make out 1/8 Swedes. Are they on the picture?
Directed to everyone else: This is why I no longer comment on HoreTores threads or comments. I just use this an example. I generally dislike people who are jumping on a bandwagon, specially if it's populist where they come from.
It's so easy for people to get ideologically impaired, specially when one have a protected life.
HT as an example, is living in Norway... As they got oil, they are way richer than Sweden. They also accept around 1/10th of the immigrants Sweden do.
Yet, people like this have the stomach to tell people living in another world entirely, that they are racist... And showing a picture of 7 people to explain why.
This much resembles Marie Antoinette, who more or less started the French Revolution by comments like "If the people don't have bread, why don't they eat pastry?"
Whenever I loathe to comment on whatever this Norwegian is saying, I just link to this post instead of answering.
It's not only intellectually dishonest, it's a complete disgrace to compare others problems from a piedestal.
Sweden already some years ago had 150 areas that were ghettos. Where basic community functions just didn't work. Heck, we have police cars having to escort the fire and ambulance, as they otherwise wont go on because of attacks.
Heck, we have Swedish POLICE cars who wont go in, unless they are protected by another damn police car. HT has nothing of this where he comes from. The very idea is distant to him.
I however was both grown up, went to school, and worked in such ghettos. I feel totally isolated from mainstream media, claiming such people like me and the soccer mom who just had her son home for the third time, with his mobile phone stolen - Are = 7 idiots waving Swedish flags in the 90's.
An intellectual disgrace, if I ever seen one.
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lol, I started this thread Kad.
Kindly take thy PMS elsewhere.
He's looking at the picture, thinking to himself that "this looks like a bunch of solid guys, I want to join them".
Clearly the mark of a true democrat. Only liberal, lying media will tell you otherwise.
This is like watching a former maoist trying to explain away his (former?) fervent support for autocratic regimes.
also, the pic has 8 guys in it. 9 if you count the head on the far left.
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-24-2014 at 19:39.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Swedish election results are in
It's some time of clock in Texas, and you are still as intellectually dishonest and as shaped by your own perceived world to respect or even understand others.
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Intellectual dishonesty, yes.... You are saying that I equate the 7 men in the picture with the average and/or majority of SD voters.
Why, hello there!
And you certainly grew up in west philly, chillin' with da gangstahs in da hood. How could I ever hope to attain your wisdom and hard-earned street-smarts?
Norway certainly got only a tenth of the immigration Sweden got. If, of course, by "a tenth" you actually mean "half". And coincidentally, Norways population is half of Swedens... But carry on with your hyperbole, don't let actual facts get in your way.
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-24-2014 at 19:53.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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I'm going to stop arguing with this person now. Any appropriate reply to that last quote is going to get removed by admins anyway. I just have to reply to this last thing, as what he says about the newspaper (Aftonbladet) isn't true:
The debate article that Kadagar linked is indeed published by Aftonbladet, but not written by them. If Kadagar had bothered to actually look at it, rather than just having it confirm his views, he would have seen that it is written by a Anna Olehäll who is a member of the Liberal Party (I'm not even sure if she's a politician; she seems to be pretty much unknown). Aftonbladet has published debate articles written by Jimmie Åkesson and others they oppose as well.
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HT, I really don't like talking to you, as I vehemently dislike you as a person. Not your political views or anything, but you as a person.
I'd love to debate with anyone about this, but you.
You can give other people arguments, and I will address them. But I long since have had enough of you. You are not only intellectually dishonest, you are a disgrace to his forum, not to mention humanity.
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Sooo. Published articles is no longer a valid source on what a published article say?
Read up on immigration, I can give you plenty of sources. Did you know that more than half of the immigrants born in Africa don't even qualify to Gymnasium (16-18years old in Sweden).
More than 1/4 African males don't qualify, even after having spent more than 10 years here?
To international readers, Gymnasium education is the very minimum you generally have here. It's often expected of even the most low status jobs.
Contrary to other countries, we accept people from the worlds worst hell holes. Other countries are more picky, we are not.
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??? I'm not sure what that means. I'm saying that Aftonbladet publishes debate articles from all sorts of people, including political opponents like Jimmie Åkesson and this person. It is not written by someone who works at Aftonbladet.
You were making a big thing of the fact that the article was published by "leftist media", that's all.
Last edited by Paltmull; 09-24-2014 at 20:33.
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Yeah, I understand it gets uncomfortable when you can't back up your wildly inaccurate "arguments".
And learn what a freakin' debate article is. Gawd. You learn the different genres in primary school.
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-24-2014 at 20:37.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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And I was saying that even democratically hindered publishers such as AB have their back against the wall, to have to let other opinions in.
What about the Janne Josephsons thingy? Swedens probably best known journalist is clearly claiming that the bulk of mass media are completely dishonest. Is he also nazi?
This is the same guy who rooted out racism in all the political partys... Have he suddenly taken a turn to the Hitler side, or is it just so that the Swedish media landscape is in a horrible condition?
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No, I just will not respond to you. Other people can pick up your claims and I will address them, as I said. But you are nothing I have any interest of debating. Again, you are the only person I dislike on this forum.
I like or respect or will listen to anyone else. But after all these years, I have come to the conclusion that you are just an extremely disagreeable person.
I don't mind facing your arguments. I just don't give a flying rats arse about YOU.
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By "address them", do you refer to your standard practice of name-calling and throwing rubbish claims around?
And grow up.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Or that's just their publishing policy? Liberal and conservative media publishes articles by left wing debaters all the time.
Those comments don't have anything to do with what I have written in this thread. Anyway, I'm out.
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Swedens most known reporter saying the media landscape is crazily ideologically driven pro-immigration is NOT relevant to what you and I wrote?
I disagree. There is something rotten here...
Luckily, I have an Austrian citizenship to fall back on, when things go bananas :)
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They are pretty reknown for their ideological bent!
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