In the eyes of the populists, I'm sure that's true. That's called a "soundbyte".Originally Posted by Fragony
Proper arguments and real knowledge, however, takes more space.
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In the eyes of the populists, I'm sure that's true. That's called a "soundbyte".
Proper arguments and real knowledge, however, takes more space.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Populism is only an insult in the eye of the beholder, it's like the water that just flows of a duck without the duck getting wet.
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Yeah, why let silly things like facts ruin the day? Let's base our views on emotion instead of knowledge!
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Populism, first known mention was when Gaious Gracias protested against the latifundas, he protested against the theft of farmland by members of the senate. 'populist'. Times haven't changed all that much really, if you don't agree with the ruling elite you are a populist. I don't find it such a bad thing to be called really.
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You can be populist and rely on strong evidence and well-supported arguments.
You can also be a populist by relying on stuff that sounds good while ignoring everything called facts and knowledge.
You argued for the superiority of the latter. Which is another way of saying "learning makes muh brain hurts".
(and several times the "ruling elite" is populist, how can you then be populist by being opposed to yourself?)
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Being called a populist is nothing more than 'you can't come to my birthday party'. As if I want to. There is nothing more gracefull than being a populist, because it's a total rejection of the legitimacy of those that cling on their seats, claws on it.
Last edited by Fragony; 11-03-2014 at 10:56.
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If you prefer a different term, then I suppose the word "idiot" covers the post you made earlier quite well.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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That's ok, I have always been curious how it sounds with an Norwegian accent so you are really doing me a favour if you call me an idiot.
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Where were you when he told me to read all the relevant literature on Intelligence before I'd be allowed to discuss with him?
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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No doubt somewhere
Tiaexz does a girly job and why Kadagar wants to be grappled by burly fireMEN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurosc...ex_differences
Male and female brains are built differently. To then assume they would function identically is just STUPID.
Sorry, thought this was common knowledge... I know I learnt it in biology class in high school.
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All hail the glorious Wikipedia, bringer of truth!!
Also:
There are differences.
Therefore
All my prejudices based on anecdotal cherrypicking must be true and anyone who don't agree are stupid.
Brilliant logic. Just brilliant.
Last edited by HoreTore; 11-03-2014 at 17:28.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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Montmorency already explained why female brains are superior.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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Because it's politically correct? Was that it?
EDIT: It doesn't take much reading before you come to the conclusion that men seem to do better... Again...
Last edited by Kadagar_AV; 11-03-2014 at 18:24.
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Highlights for the lazy:
in 2013, researchers at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania mapped notable differences in male and female neural wiring. The study, which used Functional magnetic resonance imaging, concluded that inter-hemispheric connectivity was much stronger in women's and girls' brains, whereas intra-hemispheric connectivity was much stronger in the brains of men and boys
Several functional differences have been observed in the male and female amygdala as well. One functional difference is emotional memory retention. On average, women retain emotional memories more vividly than do men. Sometimes, however, this can have a negative effect on women and they may have impaired memory at times due to strong emotional overlap
Several studies have shown the hippocampi of men and women to differ anatomically, neurochemically, and also in degree of long-term potentiation. Such evidence indicates that sex should influence the role of the hippocampus in learning. One experiment examined the effects of stress on Pavlovian conditioning performance in both sexes and found that males’ performance under stress was enhanced while female performance was impaired. Activation of the hippocampus is more dominant on the left side of hippocampus in females, while it is more dominant on the right side in males. This in turn influences cognitive reasoning; women use more verbal strategies than men when performing a task that requires cognitive thinking
Oestradiol has been found to influence hippocampal development. Studies have shown neurogenesis, or the formation of new neurons, to be higher in the male hippocampus than in that of the female. This may be due to the lower levels of estradiol in the male brain compared to the female brain. providing a more optimal environment for neurogenesis
The limbic brain displays sexual asymmetries. A brain region closely associated with the limbic system known as the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (VPMC), plays a key role in social emotional processing. In accordance with the sexual dimorphism of the amygdala, the right VPMC is more dominant in an active limbic system for males while the left is more dominant in females. These differences carry out to a behavioral level
On the basis of diffusion tensor imaging of 1,000 brain scans it has been shown that significant differences in wiring exist between male and female brains. Men's brains were shown to have stronger connections between the front and back regions of the brain, and were mostly confined to individual hemispheres, whereas women's brain had stronger connections between the left and right hemispheres.[8] The obtained maps of neural circuitry were supportive of old stereotypes according to which men's brains are more suited for perception and coordination, and women's brains are more suited for social skills and multitasking
Estradiol influences cognitive function, specifically by enhancing learning and memory in a dose-sensitive manner. Too much estrogen can have negative effects by weakening performance of learned tasks as well as hindering performance of memory tasks; this can result in females exhibiting poorer performance of such tasks when compared to males
Similar to how estrogen enhances memory and learning in women, testosterone has been found to enhance memory recall in men. In a study testing a correlation between memory a recall and testosterone levels in men, "fMRI analysis revealed that higher testosterone levels were related to increased brain activation in the amygdala during encoding of neutral pictures"
... And here's the money winner:
It was once thought that sex differences in cognitive task and problem solving did not occur until puberty. However, new evidence now suggests that cognitive and skill differences are present earlier in development. For example, researchers have found that three- and four-year-old boys were better at targeting and at mentally rotating figures within a clock face than girls of the same age were. Prepubescent girls, however, excelled at recalling lists of words. These sex differences in cognition correspond to patterns of ability rather than overall intelligence (although some researchers, such as Richard Lynn of the University of Ulster in Northern Ireland, have argued that there exists a small IQ difference favoring human males). Laboratory settings are used to systematically study the sexual dimorphism in problem solving task performed by adults.[26]
On average, Men excel over women at certain spatial task. Specifically, men have an advantage on test in which they are to imagine rotating or manipulating an object in some other technique. Men outperform women in mathematical reasoning as well as navigation. In a computer simulation of a maze task, men complete the task faster and with fewer errors than the women counterparts. Also, men have shown to be more accurate in test of targeted motor skills, such as guiding projectiles.[26]
On average, Women excel over men on test that measure recollection. Females are also superior at figuring out words that begin with a specific letter or meet some other criteria. They also perform better at matching items and precision task, such as placing pegs in a designated hole. In maze or path completion task, men learn the goal route in fewer trials than women, but women remember more of the landmarks presented. This shows that women use landmarks in everyday situations to orient themselves more than men. Women are better at remembering whether objects had switched places or not.[26]
Studies using the Iowa gambling task, or Iowa Card Task, have examined cognitive reasoning and decision-making in males and females. A study conducted on men and women of various age groups who were asked to perform the Iowa Card Task revealed data showing that man and women differ in their decision making processes on the neurological level. The study suggests that decision-making in females may be guided by avoidance of negativity while decision making in males is mainly guided by assessing the long term outcome of a situation. They also found that men outperformed women in the Iowa Card Task, but there was a negative correlation between elevated testosterone levels and performance in the card task which indicates gonadal hormones influence decision-making
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Yes, the point is pretty obvious:
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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Dude, that was ONE thing out of many. I have never said women are not better at certain things, however, it's the combined effect that is relevant for a general discussion on work capacity.
Since we are built differently, with different bodies and brains, I see no wonder we also perform different well in certain work areas.
This difference has lead to males generally earning slightly more.
Last edited by Kadagar_AV; 11-04-2014 at 05:36.
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Yes, women are clearly inferior in the workplace.
Stanford is a crap uni though.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Ahem.
Fact: Sweden got better results than Norway on hockey.
Fact: Norway got better results than Sweden on skiing.
Fact: Sweden and Norway got genetical differences.
Clearly the difference in sport between the countries has to be answered by genetics. Can't have any other explaination can it, both sports have been available for both countries for many decades.
Or maybe you have to dig deeper for this.
Are there mental differences between the genders? Yes, but there's a significant overlap, so unless you study things in detail, you don't know if the average difference is 1 or 50 points out of 100.
Basically, unless the summary study goes into a depth study on both the average difference, median difference (not always needed) and the stdev, it says very little.
We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?
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I still don't understand why are men better chefs.
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The "Money winner" references Richard Lynn.
Apparently, we're talking monopoly money.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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OK, so Kad neither reads our posts, nor the few sources he actually purports support his claims.
He's lost in his own fantasy world.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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In hopes of salvaging critical thinking, here's what we're going to do:
I'm attaching links to 4 documents. These are:
*[c.pdf] Halpern, Diane F. Sex differences in cognitive abilities. Chapter 3: Empirical Evidence for Cognitive Sex Differences. Psychology Press, 2013.
*[a.pdf] Savic, Ivanka, Alicia Garcia-Falgueras, and Dick F. Swaab. "Sexual differentiation of the human brain in relation to gender identity and sexual orientation." Part I: General overview. Progress in brain research 186 (2010): 41.
*Fausto-Sterling, Anne. Sex/gender: Biology in a social world. Routledge, 2012. (Ch. 4 is our responsibility)
*[b.pdf]Ah-King, Malin. Challenging popular myths of sex, gender and biology. Springer, 2013.
These are ~250 pp. of cutting-edge material on neurological sex differences, split evenly between agnostic perspectives and critical perspectives.
I suggest that this thread be locked for a couple of weeks while everyone becomes acquainted with the sourced materials. From there, we can discuss what we have learned and what possible directions for the future emerge.
Think of it as a book club.
Cuz if it's just going to be Kad repeating the same nonsense for us to refute over and over, then I'd be better served heading to a clinic and dealing with profound perseveration in person.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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I don't know. I just pointed at almost all really successful chefs BEING men. This trend goes on in most ventures I bothered to look at.
Less stupid, more facts please. You're just being arrogant.
Or, you could just summarize the difference between your linked sources and what the wikipedia page says?
Really wouldn't take more than that to further the discussion in a meaningful way.
HT's source, btw, only state that smaller groups are better at team work than larger groups.
The very little info about women actually ADHERE to what I have been saying, that women are better at communicating. It says nothing, however, about the individual efforts of the different group members at the actual work being done by the group. Basically, a group could be 2 men and 2 women, the men do 70% of the work, but the women during the 10 minute meeting are better at making sure the information the men provide gets circulated to the others.
I'm not saying that's the case, I'm just saying that his source is absolute rubbish in this discussion. And the little thing that adhered to the discussion strengthens what I already said. So meh
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Excellent links. All saved and put in my to-read folder. I just finished a book, so this is perfect timing really. I can see from skimming them that I probably don't have the medical terminology and knowledge to fully understand all of it though(especially c.pdf).
Also, you bungled up the links to c.pdf and a.pdf.
Out of curiosity, where are these articles from? Jstor?
Yeah, why bother with learning when it's much easier to remain ignorant?
University of Google strikes again.
Last edited by HoreTore; 11-03-2014 at 22:53.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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I don't trust Montmorency's intellectual ability enough to have him dictate what I bother reading or not.
If he has half a brain he should be able to communicate the information he has in way more simple manners.
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I agree, Wikipedia articles who reference Richard Lynn positively are clearly superior.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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So you are just going to ignore that your post #160 was stupid, and the little bit relevant adhered to what I claim?
How communistic of you.
I have no idea what your beef with Richard Lynn is, but there are 25 other sources sourced. Also, the citation of Richard Lynn isn't even sourced from him, but from Kimura, Doreen (July 31, 2000). Sex and Cognition. A Bradford Book. p. 28. ISBN 0262611643.
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Now that is bordering on a personal attack. And for the record, I have a feeling that Montmorency's intellectual abilities are excellent.
But hey, you probably rate me even lower by now, so what do I know...
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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