Now, these are not terrorists, right? Just your average muslim refugees...

[rvg]

And apparently that's enough. The sick cult known as islam strikes again.

[Fragony]

Women are thrown out as well.

There is only one thing that has nothing to do with it

[Greyblades]

[Fragony]

Did he call them terrorists? This happens all the time, christians and women get au revoired at sea. Never noticed that only men arive. This has to stop anyway, 400 people drowned the day before yesterday, yesterday people probably drowned as well as it happens daily. They should put counters on the North-African coast to show how many people died getting to Europe, the mediteranian-sea is a graveyard.

[Greyblades]

Did he call them terrorists? This happens all the time, christians and women get au revoired at sea. Never noticed that only men arive. This has to stop anyway, 400 people drowned the day before yesterday, yesterday people probably drowned as well as it happens daily. They should put counters on the North-African coast to show how many people died getting to Europe, the mediteranian-sea is a graveyard.

hmm...

Default Re: Now, these are not terrorists, right? Just your average muslim refugees...

[Fragony]

They are just your ordinary muslim refugees. This happens all the time, it's what we haul in.

Christians *splash*
Women *splasn*

Gutmensch *welcome!*

[Husar]

I assume the idea is that Europe should bomb these boats while they're at sea?

All I see is sarcastic bitching but no solution. Meanwhile the left is bitching about how these refugees are often also killed at sea by the authorities, kept in gulags on arrival and mostly sent back anyway. In that little spanish enclave the border guards constantly violate EU laws by redefining where the border actually is and sending people back to the other side after beating them up even if they made it over all three fences. Oh and spain pays the Morroccan police to swipe through the refugee camps, destroy their tents and food and also beat them up and send them to gulags when they inevitably try to get to the fence anyway.

So if we're too lax I assume that you want us to blow up the boats at sea with all the christians and muslims and buddhists and their children on board and then post the pictures along the African coast line. That will surely stop the evil muslims from entering boats in order to pre-emptively kill the christians.

Or we could build a wall through the mediterranean and all the way up around Ireland and Norway. Make it border on Russia in the arctic and on Russia in the black sea and leave Putin to deal with the immigrants. Then annex Switzerland and throw out all the foreigners such as McDonald's, McKinsey, Ford, Toyota, Pizza Hut, little pizza place on the corner, Walmart and confiscate all their assets for the greater European good. We already have ALDI, VW, Saab, Roland Berger Consulting and SAP, we don't need any foreigners operating here.
I propose we call the European Capital "Germania".

So what is it, bombing, wall or something else? Let your creative juices flow and give me constructive solutions or cry me a river.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Was it because these people were Christians, or because the boat was running out of food and water, and these people were Christians?

In barbarous backwards countries where the majority are Muslim the majority of barbarous acts will be committed by Muslims. Now if you want to discuss why the Muslims are currently barbarous and backwards, that's a different question.

[Fragony]

Interesting case developing, a Dutch war-corrospondent is crowdfunding for holding the immigration-industry responsible causing the many deaths, I'll see how that goes. Wilder's party makes the most sense, give humanitarian aid locally and use the development-budget for that without financing the NGO's who's core-business is immigration.

[Husar]

Interesting case developing, a Dutch war-corrospondent is crowdfunding for holding the immigration-industry responsible causing the many deaths, I'll see how that goes. Wilder's party makes the most sense, give humanitarian aid locally and use the development-budget for that without financing the NGO's who's core-business is immigration.

Do you seriously think the work of local NGOs who help immigrants here is what makes all these people try to come over here?
The development aid we just send over there is usually eaten by corruption and politicians or leads to their farmers going out of business because they cannot compete, thereby increasing the problems of unemployment, inequality and the dream of becoming a rich football player in Europe. It's always easy to say that we should just throw money at the problem while we hide behind a wall, but it doesn't always make the problem go away.

So we're back to bombing the boats?

[Beskar]

Interesting case developing, a Dutch war-corrospondent is crowdfunding for holding the immigration-industry responsible causing the many deaths, I'll see how that goes. Wilder's party makes the most sense, give humanitarian aid locally and use the development-budget for that without financing the NGO's who's core-business is immigration.

or, you can use the budget to make life good in these other countries, then they have no reason to immigrate.

[Gilrandir]

Or we could build a wall through the mediterranean and all the way up around Ireland and Norway.

Just let Putin have his way in Africa and Asia and in a year or two there will be no Muslims out there, but only Russian World supporters. Then you can sanction the hell out of them.

I propose we call the European Capital "Germania".

I would extend it to "GrossGermania".

[Fragony]

or, you can use the budget to make life good in these other countries, then they have no reason to immigrate.

My maid really tried, came back disilusioned and very very traumatised.

[Husar]

or, you can use the budget to make life good in these other countries, then they have no reason to immigrate.

I think that's what he meant, but as I said, just throwing money and food at them will probably not achieve that very fast. We need a solution now (instant gratification), so maybe bomb until the wall is built?

I would extend it to "GrossGermania".

That's a strange name for a city.

[Gilrandir]

That's a strange name for a city.

No more than Germania.
When my father-in-law served in DDR their familiy had a suitcase which they called GroßGermania - they said that it could house a middle-sized person. Since the capital is gonna be large anyway I thought the name could suit it perfectly.

[Papewaio]

Just let Putin have his way in Africa and Asia and in a year or two there will be no Muslims out there, but only Russian World supporters. Then you can sanction the hell out of them.

I would extend it to "GrossGermania".

Right, because the USSR at its peak walked right over Afghanistan and ate cake doing it.

[Sarmatian]

105 on the boat, 12 thrown overboard, the rest saved themselves by "forming a chain and resisting strongly" and 15 convicted.

So there were either only 15 Muslims on the boat, which is very unlikely, OR, not all Muslims were involved in the hideous act.
As always, lock up the criminals, leave the rest alone.

Raise the education level and reduce poverty, it has nothing to do with religion. During the wars in Yugoslavia, horrible crimes were committed by both Muslims and Christians (of all denominations).

Just let Putin have his way in Africa and Asia and in a year or two there will be no Muslims out there, but only Russian World supporters. Then you can sanction the hell out of them.

I would extend it to "GrossGermania".

Can't you leave current situation in Ukraine outside at least one thread? Pretty please...

[Brenus]

"Right, because the USSR at its peak walked right over Afghanistan and ate cake doing it." No, it is Gilrandir working on his sense of humour, and his obsession of Putin as Big Bad Wolf, then combine them.

"Raise the education level and reduce poverty, it has nothing to do with religion" What? Cancelling the benefit of the Free Market and the right to plunder 3rd World Countries? Are you MAD? Why do you hate freedom?

[Sarmatian]

"Raise the education level and reduce poverty, it has nothing to do with religion" What? Cancelling the benefit of the Free Market and the right to plunder 3rd World Countries? Are you MAD? Why do you hate freedom?

Because I'm an eastern European, dictator-loving pinko. What's your excuse?

[CrossLOPER]

Right, because the USSR at its peak walked right over Afghanistan and ate cake doing it.

It actually did until the US got seriously involved.

[Brenus]

"Because I'm an eastern European, dictator-loving pinko. What's your excuse?" I want my T-shirt at 10 p, heir of Gavrilo Princip Monarchist killer anarchist supporter.

[Gilrandir]

Right, because the USSR at its peak walked right over Afghanistan and ate cake doing it.

And that's what did the USSR in.

Can't you leave current situation in Ukraine outside at least one thread? Pretty please...

Why don't you ask, for instance, Kadagar or Fragony to leave their anti-Muslim rhetoric outside at least one thread? Or is it quod licet jovi, non licet bovi?

No, it is Gilrandir working on his sense of humour, and his obsession of Putin as Big Bad Wolf, then combine them.

Now I will remember two rules of the forum:
1. No fiction vs real world situation comparisons are allowed.
2. Sense of humor is welcome from the priviledged members only.

[Montmorency]

So - you want to emulate Kadagar and Fragony?

[Gilrandir]

So - you want to emulate Kadagar and Fragony?

I want equal treatment.

[Husar]

I want equal treatment.

You want people to ask us to ban you?

[Gilrandir]

You want people to ask us to ban you?

For mentioning Putin in my posts? Now I'm not sure his agents aren't at work here.

[Sarmatian]

I want equal treatment.

Kadagar and Fragony don't use Muslim rhetoric all the time. Kadagar spends a healthy amount of time voicing his displeasure about USAians and Fragony hates all immigrants equally (along with lefty pinkos) because they be polluting his culture. Like you can pollute a culture in which people wear wooden shoes.

They've also been known to talk about totally different things.

But, most importantly, they tend to speak about their beliefs when it is pertinent to the discussion. So, in the Ukraine thread we talk about Putin, but there's absolutely no reason at all to mention him when we talk about violence between Christian and Muslim African refugees who are trying to smuggle themselves to Italy.

There's absolutely no connection between Putin and Libyan refugees, not even a miniscule, remote one. Don't be a one trick pony.

[Gilrandir]

They've also been known to talk about totally different things.

I also talked about books, music, chemtrails, vaccination, Saudi king's death, Iran, shrinks examining pilots, foodstuffs (milk and apples) and other things. So either you are not aware of that or you choose to present me the way it suits your agenda.

But, most importantly, they tend to speak about their beliefs when it is pertinent to the discussion. So, in the Ukraine thread we talk about Putin, but there's absolutely no reason at all to mention him when we talk about violence between Christian and Muslim African refugees who are trying to smuggle themselves to Italy.

There's absolutely no connection between Putin and Libyan refugees, not even a miniscule, remote one. Don't be a one trick pony.

Correct. But it is also true that in the Ukraine thread there was a lenghty discussion on language development and acquisition. As well as there was no need for RVG to introduce a pro-Russian rebellion concept in the New Balkan State thread. Yet he did and no one batted an eyelid. Discussions tend to ramify and I see no reason in trying to limit them. Unless it is personal dislike.

[Brenus]

"Now I will remember two rules of the forum:
1. No fiction vs real world situation comparisons are allowed.
2. Sense of humor is welcome from the priviledged members only." And why these 2 rules applied in the present intervention? It was not humour?

[Sarmatian]

Sense of humor is welcome from the priviledged members only.

I want equal treatment.

Correct. But it is also true that in the Ukraine thread there was a lenghty discussion on language development and acquisition. As well as there was no need for RVG to introduce a pro-Russian rebellion concept in the New Balkan State thread. Yet he did and no one batted an eyelid. Discussions tend to ramify and I see no reason in trying to limit them. Unless it is personal dislike.

Firstly, these are my observations. I have zero influence on what happens here. The fact that I'm a "senior" member only means that my long term contribution has been noted by the Org leadership. It doesn't make me more important than any other member.

Secondly, we're not running a concentration camp here. We're all allowed some leeway but we have to try to stick to topic otherwise it will turn into a reddit-like discussion.

Thirdly, rvg did it once, while you do it much more often. One could say almost all the time.

Most importantly, don't think I dislike you because I don't agree with you. I don't agree with rvg, but I like him (I mean he's of Assyrian descent, is it possible not to like him???). I don't like your posting style because you often try to portray propaganda as facts, while the quality of discussion here is usually much better, and you try to weasel out and you nitpick and take cheap shot too often, but, in my opinion you're improving. It takes a while to get used to the Backroom. I know it's hard not to take some stuff said about your country personally, especially when there's an ongoing crisis, but it is possible. I just think you'd be better off not mentioning Putin, Russia or Ukraine as often. Again, don't presume I speak for the entire forum. This is my personal observation.