View Poll Results: Who are you holding your nose and voting for?

Voters
24. This poll is closed
  • Trump

    4 16.67%
  • Hillary

    10 41.67%
  • Johnson

    8 33.33%
  • Stein

    2 8.33%
Page 3 of 53 FirstFirst 123456713 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 90 of 1569

Thread: POTUS Election thread

  1. #61
    Senior Member Senior Member Othello Champion Montmorency's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    8,334

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Haji Bakr 4 Prez
    Vitiate Man.

  2. #62
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    Why do you go out of your way to pick people that will never win
    Ah yes, because going even further to the right is totally the way that the GOP will win.
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  3. #63
    Ni dieu ni maître! Senior Member a completely inoffensive name's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    I live on the org, feeding off of what few thanks are tossed at my posts. It is up to you to make sure I don't starve.
    Posts
    8,008

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Ah yes, because going even further to the right is totally the way that the GOP will win.
    Going to the right is the only way to win the GOP primaries, and hence the only way to win if you are a Republican.
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.
    Member thankful for this post: ICantSpellDawg

  4. #64
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Because winning the GOP primaries is what really counts, amirite?
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  5. #65
    Ni dieu ni maître! Senior Member a completely inoffensive name's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    I live on the org, feeding off of what few thanks are tossed at my posts. It is up to you to make sure I don't starve.
    Posts
    8,008

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Because winning the GOP primaries is what really counts, amirite?
    Yes
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.
    Member thankful for this post: ICantSpellDawg

    Member thankful for this post:

    Xiahou 


  6. #66
    Senior Member Senior Member Othello Champion Montmorency's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    8,334

    Default Re: POTUS race

    It's more complicated than that. With the various weird reforms the Republicans have been playing with in anticipation of 2016 primaries and delegate allocation, primaries held between mid-March and the end of April will be the impactful ones. After that, the conclusion will almost certainly be foregone. Before that, many if not most delegates will be proportionally allocated (according to candidates' performance in each primary).

    What this means is that the influence of Texas and California will be reduced - March 1 primary and June 7 primary, respectively - while the influence of New York - undetermined primary date - may be increased.

    Altogether, a successful Republican contender need not "win" any primaries until the Illinois, Florida, and Missouri conventions on March 15.

    Also, recall that there is a technical out to the whole process. There are to be 2470 Republican delegates to the national convention. Of them, taking 1235 will clinch the nomination. However, if the contest is very mixed such that no one contender can reach the 50% mark, but there is one contender who has a plurality by the end of the primary season, then it is easily possible that this contender would, if deemed a risk by the party leadership, be thrown under the bus for someone else.

    How could this happen? Well, don't forget the super/bonus delegates. There are more than 400 of them for the Republicans this time. If Rick Santorum gets 1000 delegates but Pataki gets 900, then we should expect Santorum to get cooked at the Convention.
    Vitiate Man.

  7. #67
    Ni dieu ni maître! Senior Member a completely inoffensive name's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    I live on the org, feeding off of what few thanks are tossed at my posts. It is up to you to make sure I don't starve.
    Posts
    8,008

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Technically it's 1236 to win. 50% + 1 vote (otherwise there could theoretically be a tie between two people who get 50%).
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.
    Member thankful for this post: ICantSpellDawg

    Member thankful for this post:



  8. #68
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    So Trump is threatening a third party run. This might be 1992 all over again!
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  9. #69
    Needs more flowers Moderator drone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Moral High Grounds
    Posts
    9,042

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    So Trump is threatening a third party run. This might be 1992 all over again!
    If he is still going by Nov 2016 (either as the nominee or 3rd party), he is going to crush whatever slim chance the GOP has of getting in the White House. Hillary must be loving it.
    The .Org's MTW Reference Guide Wiki - now taking comments, corrections, suggestions, and submissions

    If I werent playing games Id be killing small animals at a higher rate than I am now - SFTS
    Si je n'étais pas jouer à des jeux que je serais mort de petits animaux à un taux plus élevé que je suis maintenant - Louis VI The Fat

    "Why do you hate the extremely limited Spartan version of freedom?" - Lemur

  10. #70
    The Black Senior Member Papewaio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    15,660

    Default Re: POTUS race

    I thought the simplest selection method of a party candidate for POTUS would be the one that mimics the actual election the closest. Not only would it be simpler you would have a candidate who is supported by your voter base across the country not just some states.

    Oh look we won Idaho by a landslide and lost every other state. But at least we have a convulted selection process.
    Last edited by Papewaio; 07-24-2015 at 10:16.

  11. #71
    Apr 04-Nov 11 Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Between Louis' sheets
    Posts
    10,147

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Trump is a smokescreen so that Hillary has an easier time getting to the polls. She is calling in all her favors.

    I want my America back.
    “I was not designed to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.” -Thoreau

    Sometimes chicken, sometimes feathers.


  12. #72
    Horse Archer Senior Member Sarmatian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Novi Sad, Serbia
    Posts
    4,178

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I want my America back.
    Which America is that and do you have to have rose-tinted glasses to see it?

  13. #73
    Senior Member Senior Member Othello Champion Montmorency's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    8,334

    Default Re: POTUS race

    He wants Revolutionary America back so he can have something to fight for.
    Vitiate Man.

  14. #74
    Ni dieu ni maître! Senior Member a completely inoffensive name's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    I live on the org, feeding off of what few thanks are tossed at my posts. It is up to you to make sure I don't starve.
    Posts
    8,008

    Default Re: POTUS race

    If I was a conspiracy guy, I would believe that Trump is a Democratic Party plant meant to embarrass the Republican Party. Trump has been on the record back in the early 2000s and 1990s as being very liberal with things such as universal health care.

    The truth is probably closer to the fact that Trump has an extremely large ego, believes his background caters to Republicans more and thinks that the publicity driven by this will somehow cement his family name further into American history.
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.
    Member thankful for this post: ICantSpellDawg

    Members thankful for this post (2):



  15. #75
    Senior Member Senior Member Othello Champion Montmorency's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    8,334

    Default Re: POTUS race

    He profits from running. As in, he gets money as a direct consequence. Not necessarily from mattering, mind you, but from running.
    Vitiate Man.

  16. #76
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    If I was a conspiracy guy, I would believe that Trump is a Democratic Party plant meant to embarrass the Republican Party. Trump has been on the record back in the early 2000s and 1990s as being very liberal with things such as universal health care.

    The truth is probably closer to the fact that Trump has an extremely large ego, believes his background caters to Republicans more and thinks that the publicity driven by this will somehow cement his family name further into American history.
    Both are good theories in my book, and I wouldnt be surprised at all if either of them turned out to be the truth.
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  17. #77
    Iron Fist Senior Member Husar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    14,491

    Default Re: POTUS race

    http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/adm...dont-you-50895

    And the TV spots are just the beginning. I know you, and I know what you like. You’ll absolutely eat it up when you see the “Trump ’16” T-shirts, the lawn signs, the bumper stickers; in fact, you’ll probably get a real kick out of pointing them out to your friends. Now, just imagine me shaking hands with senior citizens at a nursing home in Iowa. Wouldn’t you love to watch that? Or hear what comes out of my mouth when I speak to blue-collar workers at a struggling auto factory?
    Yes, I absolutely do want to see this!


    "Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu

  18. #78
    Master of useless knowledge Senior Member Zoo Keeper Champion, Kitten Shooting Champion, Eskiv Champion, Alien Commander Champion Ironside's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    4,902

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Both are good theories in my book, and I wouldnt be surprised at all if either of them turned out to be the truth.
    Do you honestly think Trump's ego would handle being a plant?
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

    Project PYRRHO, Specimen 46, Vat 7
    Activity Recorded M.Y. 2302.22467
    TERMINATION OF SPECIMEN ADVISED

  19. #79
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    Do you honestly think Trump's ego would handle being a plant?
    I dont think he even realizes hes a plant. But just because the plant is clueless doesnt mean hes not a plant.
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  20. #80
    Sovereign Oppressor Member TIE Fighter Shooter Champion, Reactor Champion, Starcastle Champion, Turkey Shoot Champion, Juggler Champion Kralizec's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    5,772

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Trumps ego is hilarious. He sued a reporter once because he wrote that Trump's net worth was less than 1 billion USD, and demanded 5 billion USD in damages.

    good stuff:
    http://www.bloombergview.com/article...0-billion-too-

    When they asked him about how he calculated his net worth, he noted that the figure “goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings.” Later he added that “even my own feelings affect my value to myself.”
    Last edited by Kralizec; 07-28-2015 at 12:43.

  21. #81
    Upstanding Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    3,818

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Trumps ego is hilarious. He sued a reporter once because he wrote that Trump's net worth was less than 1 billion USD, and demanded 5 billion USD in damages.

    The more I hear Trump speak, the more I like him. I still think he's unelectable, but boy, he stands in such contrast to the usual rank'n'file weather vane politicians. Chris Christie is the only one who comes close, but he has him own electability issues.
    "And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman

    “The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett

  22. #82
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    I thought this was the Onion at first...


    Is it wrong that I really want to see this happen?
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  23. #83
    Member Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    palo alto, ca, usa
    Posts
    520

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    If I was a conspiracy guy, I would believe that Trump is a Democratic Party plant meant to embarrass the Republican Party. Trump has been on the record back in the early 2000s and 1990s as being very liberal with things such as universal health care.
    Heh, if we had to vote on conspiracy theories I'd go the other way. Trump makes the other GOP candidates look more palatable to the gooey middle which will decide the election in the battleground states. Case in point, Rick Perry has someone he can call nuts. Quite a turn around from 4 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    The more I hear Trump speak, the more I like him. I still think he's unelectable, but boy, he stands in such contrast to the usual rank'n'file weather vane politicians. Chris Christie is the only one who comes close, but he has him own electability issues.
    Christy would be interesting. I think he is one of the few GOP candidates who could win a general election.

    Best shot for GOP is to flip FL, OH, VA and one of the mountain west states (CO, NV, NM).

    Only candidates they have that are capable of pulling it off are Kasich, Bush, and Christie. Everyone else is noise. They're playing for the 2nd prize of book/tv/campaign money.
    Last edited by whyidie; 07-31-2015 at 19:13.

  24. #84
    Ni dieu ni maître! Senior Member a completely inoffensive name's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    I live on the org, feeding off of what few thanks are tossed at my posts. It is up to you to make sure I don't starve.
    Posts
    8,008

    Default Re: POTUS race

    TRUMP IS GOING TO THE DEBATE. Muh American Dream coming true.
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.
    Member thankful for this post: ICantSpellDawg

    Member thankful for this post:

    Husar 


  25. #85
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    My mother, who is fairly conservative, wanted to watch the debates with my brother and I so we armed ourselves with a suite of sitcom crowd noises in preparation for the event.
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  26. #86
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    So that was a pretty interesting debate.

    For Trump, he basically admitted to bribing politicians and that he was fine making degrading comments about Hispanic immigrants and women, and when asked if he would pledge to not run third party, his reaction can be very, very accurately summed up as this: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Seeing Christie and Rand Paul go at it over the 4th Amendment was interesting, especially since Christie lied about when he was appointed as US attorney for New Jersey. He kept repeating it was the day before the 9/11 attacks when in reality he wasnt nominated until December after the attacks and didnt take office until January of 2002. But more amusing was his loud argument with Paul, where Rand kept repeating "Use the Fourth Amendment!" to which Christie didnt really seem able to give a good reply to. Oh yeah, and then they argued over Christie giving Obama a hug after Hurricane Sandy. Really.

    Walker mentioned his Harley motorcycle only once, surprisingly, and then mentioned busting the unions, which is also funny because Harleys are famously made by union workers.

    I kinda wish they would have given Cruz more talking time as I like how he argues. I might hate everything he stands for but he is a great debater and I respect him for that. And speaking of talking times, the New York Times clocked in most candidates around the 6:46 length, but Trump had well over 11 minutes to talk while some, like Rand Paul, had as few as not even 5 and a half minutes. Probably because Trump muscled his way into more talking time.

    I have a feeling that they purposely let Trump go on talking because they want him out of the race ASAP, and by letting him run his mouth they are gambling on him saying something that will crash him campaign. A risky gamble to say the least.

    Anybody else watch the debates?

    Should also mention Fiorina did a pretty good job in the "loser debates" and outshone the others on stage, and quite possibly secured a VP nomination at the very least I think.
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

    Member thankful for this post:



  27. #87
    Iron Fist Senior Member Husar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    14,491

    Default Re: POTUS race

    So it will be Trump with Fiorina as VP?

    I mean if the others can't even wrestle speaking time from Trump, how can they wrestle the nuke from Iran??!!?!?!?!?!111


    "Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu

  28. #88
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    So it will be Trump with Fiorina as VP?

    I mean if the others can't even wrestle speaking time from Trump, how can they wrestle the nuke from Iran??!!?!?!?!?!111
    Nah, didnt Trump say that he wanted Palin as his VP? That would be a fun nomination. But thats a valid point, Im trying to figure out Trumps end game (besides winning the general election). Hes basically holding the GOP hostage, and from an outsider its pretty amusing. Though I cannot imagine the amount of sheer terror that the GOP establishment is having over Trump still leading the polls by a good amount from what I can tell.
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

  29. #89
    Ni dieu ni maître! Senior Member a completely inoffensive name's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    I live on the org, feeding off of what few thanks are tossed at my posts. It is up to you to make sure I don't starve.
    Posts
    8,008

    Default Re: POTUS race

    The GOP will try to kill trump by just ignoring him since attacking him during the debates did not work out as well as they thought. The media will spend less coverage. By the next debate more than a few will drop out from pressure or lack of funds. At that point they will pick the chosen ones which will receive all the attention and poll stronger for it.
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.
    Member thankful for this post: ICantSpellDawg

  30. #90
    Stranger in a strange land Forum Administrator Hooahguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Southern Vinland
    Posts
    10,846

    Default Re: POTUS race

    So because everyone knows how much of a joke the 2016 election is, a third party candidate named Deez Nuts is polling in North Carolina at 9%. Shame the guy behind it is only in high school.

    Link to story:

    Wednesday was a big day for Deez Nuts. First he won 9% of the vote as an independent in a Public Policy Polling poll of voters in North Carolina – which, on top of recent results of 8% in Minnesota and 7% in Iowa from previous polls, makes him what experts confirmed is the most successful independent candidate for president in two decades.
    I dont know whether to laugh or to cry at this point.
    Reunification: a Marcomanni AAR (on permanent hiatus)
    Zalmoxis's Lightning: a Getae AAR (finished)
    On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
    (finished)

    Visited:
    A man who casts no shadow has no soul.
    Hvil i fred HoreTore

Page 3 of 53 FirstFirst 123456713 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO