Isn't gang culture also a result of poverty?
There is even a german gang culture, or there was one before the more violent gang cultures of people from war zones drove the german gangs away due to their more violent nature. At least partially as our western gang culture returned in the form of also very violent motorcycle clubs which own sex slaves and throw hand grenades at bars of competing clubs. So even the ultra violence is not exclusive to some races or cultures, just read up on what the Banditos and the other motorcycle gangs do in their free time. There is even a dutch gang that has begun expanding in Germany now:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satudarah
This is western gang culture plain and simple. We even managed to make it somewhat middle class worthy and they probably have more lawyers as well to avoid getting punished or stopped.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Completily valid. Motorcycle-clubs are 'rock' in the same way gangster-rap is 'blingbling' though. I know of Saturada, they are expanding in Belgium as well. They are from the Molukken, an island in Indonesia, I don't know how dangerous they are really, they don't like drawing attention. Most of the liquidation-wave is between Marrocan-groups, as it seems at least they kill eachother just because they expect to be killed first. They are a bit like rockstars Marrocan youth. I will go along with poverty being a breeding-groumd
but that's not the whole story.
What I know about the motorgangs
Hell's Angels, branch of the Americans
Confederates, same
No Surrender, mostly army/veterans, lots of ex-special forces, an unknown number is fighting alongside the Kurds.
Saturada, mostly immigrants from the Molukken
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Another alledged arson in a black church apparently, no victims. Supposedly the seventh in a very short time. How about just don't do that you assholes.
http://www.localmemphis.com/story/d/...80iy91LMR_yQ-g
Apparantly Memphis folks consider protecting people's fragile sensibilities more important than leaving the dead in peace.
Ja-mata TosaInu
A gang, at least the ones usually implied with gang culture, is usually built on the idea of committing criminal activity.
The charge was apparently that this is somehow inherent to black people and my point was that it is more born out of poverty.
I am not entirely sure why you feel the need to counter my point by saying a gang that deals with heroin and kills members of other gangs is the same as a church crowd. I don't know what church crowds do where you live, but here they usually don't form around making money with criminal activities or kill members of other church crowds over territorial disputes. If that is not different enough, please accept my apology.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
"I don't know what church crowds do where you live, but here they usually don't form around making money with criminal activities or kill members of other church crowds over territorial disputes." When it happens, we call it a religious war.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Sorry, but perhaps it's a comment on where perceptions have shifted.
Violence, illegal activity, drug running, gun running, intimidation ...etc. all fail as defining characteristics.
You could as easily be talking about religious groups, banks, multinational/transnational corporations or even some governments and their agents.
A little tip of a very large iceberg:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-on-drugs.html
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Ja-mata TosaInu
It's been a while boys. Just came back to see how racist and right wing the place still is. The usual cronies don't disappoint.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
I see someone's still sulking about losing the election.
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There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Yeah we nominated you for site's token lefty but it turns out a white males can no longer call themselves left wing.
Last edited by Greyblades; 07-16-2015 at 19:36.
I'll just put this here:
https://youtu.be/fVQjGGJVSXc
Last edited by HopAlongBunny; 08-06-2015 at 06:26.
Ja-mata TosaInu
The state leg should cut all funds.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Per capita is good but it might be better understood if the way a city scales impacts things like patents and crimes. As a city grows those times grow too at a non linear pace. So if you double a city size you more then double crime.
USA has a lot of large cities so this in someway adds to the increase in both patents and crime. Also different cities/states have their own character. Main point is that you cannot just compare on a per capita basis when you are dealing with a logarithmic algorithm.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/12/19...n-nature/5204/
Last edited by Papewaio; 10-27-2015 at 07:02. Reason: Better link - wrong thread too many damn deaths
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