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    You couldn't make it up, 'refugees' from Marocco get almost 2000 euro pocket money and a free ticket for the plane once they are naturally denied asylum-status, do that twice a year and you make twice the anual salary you do there. Except for the occupied area (western sahara) nobody likes to mentions because uhmmmmmm, well free palestine now schnapps!!! Marocco is a relatively free and safe country why not send them back immediatly, with only what they came with.
    Maybe the development aid we send there is reduced accordingly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Maybe the development aid we send there is reduced accordingly?
    That could be an option I guess but as always harms the wrong ones, development aid isn't aid anyway it's extemely cynical. Nah,send them back.
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    lol that aren't children http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...n-within-days/ UK what are you doing to yourself
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    Children are classified as under the age of 18. So a 17 year old would technically be a child.
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    Children are classified as under the age of 18. So a 17 year old would technically be a child.
    Sure but they are much older, anyone can see that. Turkish maffia is making millions forging pasports
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Sure but they are much older, anyone can see that. Turkish maffia is making millions forging pasports
    Not exactly unusual when refugees are massed together. Market economics in action.
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    Very big lol, this 16 year old must have gone througn a lot http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven....html#comments

    Nobody who thinks hmmmmmmm no he's not really sixteen.

    obviously 12, maybe younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Sure but they are much older, anyone can see that. Turkish maffia is making millions forging pasports
    Forged passports aren't needed. In fact they're better off with no passport or ID at all if they make it to UK.

    And still the question which no politician wants to answer: If they want asylum and are fleeing oppression or persecution, then what is wrong with all of the several EU countries (including France) they had to go through in order to get to the UK?

    There is a big difference between people genuinely fleeing for their lives and economic migrants. I know which type are in Calais. Most people know which type they are and what they are, but it's not politically correct to state that.

    The UK government will allow these "unaccompanied children" for political reasons and nothing more, not out of kindness and not because they truly believe they are who they say they are. They may well be criminals, but that's someone else's problem.

    Never thought I'd agree with fragony, but it's a farce and has nothing whatsoever to do with the welfare of migrants. It will simply cause even more people - in particular unaccompanied minors - to make more perilous journeys. Win, win for the people smugglers.

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    The invisible hand of the migration market always knows best.

    To question this market dynamic for the social health of one's own nation is called National Socialism.

    Everybody was in favor (as shown by the market success of the model and the lack of complaints) of capitalist globalization when it just meant Indian children and Chinese women would be enslaved to produce cheaper pullovers, what has changed?


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    Everyone loves it when they are winning. The West were for Capitalism and the rest aren't really important or otherwise aspire to it.

    Same with immigration. It's fine on our - or just kept as a nice theoretical "Champagne Leftist" view where of course we should help people - and we do by liking an occasional facebook page, giving Oxfam vouchers for christmas presents and sending off a few blankets. Having four immigrants living in one's summer house? Oh, of course it is a good idea... just not... now.

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    Silly you that is what others should do, you know the type, live in a 99% white neighbourhood, kids go to a 99% white school. The whole mood changes if it gets too close
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    "obviously 12, maybe younger." I think this was the picture of the translator, if it is the same one published in the Sun Newspapers here in UK
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    "obviously 12, maybe younger." I think this was the picture of the translator, if it is the same one published in the Sun Newspapers here in UK
    Nah he's a sixteen year old, he just aged very fast because of all the hardships, throwing all women from the boat eventually gets to you no, I'd cry. Women and children first means something different to them but it can't be nice to watch
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    At least some refugee camps in Lebanon do not appear to be in a particularly bad shape.. Comments from a family settled in Karasjok, located in Norway's northernmost mainland county, and who now wants to go back to Lebanon:

    The Ibrahim family emphasises that people in Karasjok - neighbours, the municipality and the teachers - are very nice. But the family only speaks Arabic and feels isolated.

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    Familien Ibrahim understreker at folk i Karasjok: naboer, kommunen og lærerne er veldig bra. Men familien snakker kun arabisk og føler seg alene


    – The sun doesn't show up, we haven't seen the sun for several months, the Ibrahim parents say.

    They arrived as refugees and were flown in from Lebanon, but they had no idea where in Norway they were to be settled. They chose to come because of their seven children. To give them an education.

    The kids aren't doing very well here. They want to go back to their tent in Lebanon, where they can play outside in the sun the entire day with relatives and friends. Here it is cold and dark, a sad Mohammed Id Ibrahim adds as a closing remark.

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    – Sola dukker ikke opp, vi har ikke sett sola på flere måneder, forteller ekteparet Ibrahim fortvilt.

    De kom som flyktninger - og ble fløyet inn fra Libanon, men de ante ikke hvor i Norge de skulle bosettes. Det var på grunn av de syv barna de valgte å komme. For å gi dem en utdanning.

    – Barna har det ikke bra her. De vil tilbake til teltet i Libanon, hvor de kan leke ute i sola hele dagen med slektninger og venner. Her er det kaldt og mørkt, avslutter en trist familiefar Mohammed Id Ibrahim.
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    This kind of comment won't help Norwegian tourism much....
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    Well, in a few months they will have all the sunshine they could ask for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    This kind of comment won't help Norwegian tourism much....
    I wouldn't want to live in Karasjok, either. It's what you could meaningfully call the coldest town in Norway, as it holds the all-time Norwegian record for the lowest temperature at -51.4°C. The average temperature for a normal January is -17.1°C, which is about as cold the coldest outdoor temperature I've ever personally experienced, and I've spent a winter north of the polar circle.

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    Well, in a few months they will have all the sunshine they could ask for.
    They'd also get all the mosquitos they could ask for, as far as I understand it.
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