Bird mafia [Concluded]

[edse]

so the only one not voting no lynch is the scum, got it

Well, scum killed the other one not wanting a no lynch.

In the NOTW we were at a hammer stage, my vote would end the day. Today I had 25 hours, although I still forgot to check in today.

[Askthepizzaguy]

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It is now night! No Lynch has occurred!

Orders pls.

[Zack]

execute order 66

[Zack]

I saw edse killing younglings

[Zack]

on a security hologram

[Askthepizzaguy]

You seem a bit conflicted as to which side you're supporting there, Zack.

:P

[Zack]

I, uh

[Askthepizzaguy]

Night Seven


Bird was approached by big, lumbering bird. At least, is probably bird. But Bird felt threatened because Bird noticed pattern where other birds have been dying, so Bird decided to make a quick getaway.

Does Bird escape by flapping wings? No, Bird is big and rotund Bird, and wings seem to be purely decorative. Does Bird escape by burrowing under the ground? No, Bird is not very good at digging. Does Bird escape by running away with gigantic, powerful legs? No, Bird is a fat, flightless parrot. Is not big enough to have impressive gait like ostrich.

So, how does Bird escape predator? Well, Bird is fairly ok at climbing trees. Yes, Bird has to climb the tree, cannot even fly up to branch. What a stupid bird. No wonder is critically endangered. Cat would have field day with this stupid, stupid Bird.

And he makes the escape! Bird managed to make it all the way up into the tree. Wow. Good show, Bird.

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Well, here's thing: bullets can reach Bird even when Bird is in tree. May have been better idea to go on Jenny Craig and lose enough body weight to be bird that can fly away.

Stupid bird. Now you're extinct, my fat feathered friend.



You know, it occurs to me that is probably not good idea to have enclosed habitat with lots of basically helpless and stupid birds, and also have murderous rampaging animals inside habitat with birds.

Oh well, you live, you learn. Or you die because you evolutionary dead end, stupid bird.

Alive and predatorial birds:

Resplendent quetzack
edseedsnipe
Doubleday's hummingbird


Dead:

Pigeon - narrator
Emu- Sooh
Turtle Dove- Autolycus
Turtle Dove- Jolt
Greater sage-grouse- El Barto
Flightless Cormorant- Al Sipsclar
Penguin- atheotes
Inaccessible Island Rail- BSmith
Magnificent Frigate Bird- Pelican (Wrath of Cat)
Kiwi- Beskar
Bird Mafia- GeneralHankerchief
Sombrero-wearing Chicken- Khaan
Kakapo- Winston Hughes

BEGIN DAY SEVEN!

No lynch is no longer a viable option for town. Just thought I'd let you know, in case you did something bird-like.

[Askthepizzaguy]

[Zack]

I will probably re-read at some point

[Zack]

Anyone heavily involved with yesterday isn't scum, we need to go looking elsewhere.

Vote: Pelican

leaves atheotes, double a, beskar, zack, jolt in gh's scum pile

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tally for reference

4 El Barto: Winston, Pelican, autolycus, Beskar
4 autolycus: GeneralHankerchief, atheotes, BSmith, Al Sipsclar
3 Winston: El Barto, edse, Khaan
1 atheotes: Double A
1 Beskar: Zack

No Vote : Jolt

5 1/2 hours to go.

So the moral of this game so far is clearly "if a person makes a post they're likely to be scum".

Unvote: Pelican
Vote: Al Sipsclar

starts the crappy al mislynch

And then it is a suitable moment to take a look at who's voting for him. Let me just change my vote first Unvote: Vote: Al Sipsclar for flipping four times between Beskar and Zack.

3 Beskar: Zack, Winston, Al Sipsclar
3 Al Sipsclar: GH, Beskar, edse
1 Zack: Khaan

No Vote: Double A (Forgot to check)

edse joins in the fun

Agreed.

gh calls me/beskar town

Yeah, but hot and bothered is Zack's default mood, especially as town.

reinforces his town read of me. I'm pretty sure gh was using his PIS to dish out town reads left and right in his wise sage role.

The D1 argument mostly revolving around Winston and Barto. Seemed like town vs. town.

calls winston town

Also why do you have Winston as lock town? Because of the Barto nightkill?

noted yesterday that gh and edse are the only ones who had this (odd) line of thinking, which I think is notable. One or both probably brought it up in scum chat.

FWIW I have both you and Beskar as likely town, with you as slightly more likely. You made a decent case against him yesterday but Beskar's behavior does seem to be in line with how he usually plays as town - most notably publicly appearing as in the know and also claiming certain predictions of his were correct when said predictions were never made in the thread.

more

Bit odd, but I generally think devoting attention to making anything out of kill choices is a waste of time, especially this early on in the game. Endgame, fine, but not now.

did not want to talk about kill choices

maybe we should talk about kill choices?

I did suspect Al Sips until about two hours ago when Pizza posted the lynch. Beyond that I think our scum is some combination of BSmith, one or two of our inactive players, and maybe atheotes.

GH's reads of living players at this point:

TOWN
Zack
Winston
Beskar

SCUM
BSmith
atheotes (immediately killed that night)
Pelican


NO READ
khaan (did take issue with me leaning town on khaan, later tried to push khaan)
edse (but had no issue with my "lean town" on edse)
Double a ("one or two of our inactive players" ---> lean scum)

after atheotes' death:

I agree in that it's probably not both of them, but it could be one of them and then somebody more active.

Vote: khaan

Zack why do you have khaan listed as lean town in your reads post from last page?

TOWN
Zack
Winston
Beskar

SCUM
BSmith
khaan
Pelican

NEUTRAL
edse (only player gh has said literally nothing about *alarms*)
Double a ("probably not both" pelican and double a, but "could be" him and "somebody more active" -- at this point slipped that he knew there are only 2 mafia, at time when everyone was assuming 3)

I think you're reading into it a little too much. I'm simply calling it as I see it, not trying to collect sympathy favors from people in order to cash in on them later on. I have a town read on Zack right now, but if something changes and I think he's scum later on, I'm not going to keep him alive just because he might be more likely to vote with me. I'm going to try to get him lynched.

Notice the phrasing here. "if something changes I'm not going to keep [Zack] alive" ---> betrays he was thinking about the possibility of NKing me, because that's not the phrasing you use in reference to the lynch

I agree in that it's probably not both of them, but it could be one of them and then somebody more active.

Is the day already over?

Vote: BSmith anyway

voting with gh again (or trying to anyways)

GH and Winston or Zack and Khaan. Zack behaves exactly as he did in Arakhor's game on CFC, but that's more of a proof of how good he played in that game. Beskar was probably killed to frame Zack and Khaan. Vote:GeneralHankerchief

accuses everyone except double a

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In my experience, people who ask questions like this right after an update are actually usually scum.

I agree, but I'm not counting out a GH/Zack team. vote: GH

edse and double a both piled on gh after he was down in the hole. although edse did essentially confirm gh's demise instead of tying me up with him.

Fine. I admit it.

I'm scum.

Could have played it better in public, that one's on me. But luckily, public behavior isn't the only aspect of this game, is it?

Vote: khaan

Good luck!

lol

Vote: Winston it's either you or Zack.

still no mention of double a. only one who didn't vote no lynch yesterday

I'm quite certain it is you, but it could be Zack, as I said yesterday. Yesterday's result only made it even more likely that it is you.

but the barto nightkill cleared winston???

vote: lylo

destroy all concepts

double a left a fake/joke vote before coming on later right before EOD. Almost like he was waiting to see if someone would switch off no lynch maybe.

but seriously
unvote, vote: no lynch



Let's be real. Who here wouldn't kill Tak if given the opportunity?

not the first time double a has been around at end of day. Last time he posted the ck2 pic to make it seem like he wasn't paying attention, but he keeps popping in right before day ends to jump on the popular wagon (gh, no lynch).

[Zack]

TL;DR

edse is the only person GH never gave a single read on. GH was more than willing to vote inactives, and even sorta implicated Double A might be scum, but never voted that way.

Double A and edse have both posted near zero actual content to analyze.

:(

[Zack]

GH: "don't look at nightkills pls"

so let's look at nightkills

n1 - sooh

meh, whatever

n2 - el barto

edse - him and gh brought up the winston thing
double a - him and gh both seemed to think barto was town; explicitly endorsed the kill afterwards

n3 - atheotes

no reason, gh straight up called atheotes scum right before he was killed so idk.

double a voted atheotes d2 fwiw

n4 - beskar

Double A - still trying to push beskar at the time. maybe he gave up on that possibility?
edse - never went after beskar, think him and gh assumed everyone had moved on from beskar

n5 - winston

edse - winston was coming around to push edse, but he could still have been persuaded to vote zack. Why wouldn't edse kill double a? AA never seemed to give any indication he would be willing to vote me or winston, and edse expressed willingness to vote anyone except double a. Maybe he realized I would never vote winston, and figured I might be persuaded to go double a.

double a - zack was never lynching winston, edse is lynchbait, double a can't kill himself, edse indicated it was winston OR zack so killing one will make him go after the other. A winston kill makes perfect sense for double a, especially since at the time I probably seemed more gung-ho about gunning for edse.

[Zack]

ugh I am torn. I need to see edse and double a post. Can both of you link a recent scum game?

[Zack]

I'd like to reiterate my earlier sentiment that mafia is a dumb game

[Zack]

gh laffin at me from the grave

[Zack]

edse that green dot has been by your name for awhile

say something already

[edse]

A minute

[edse]

but the barto nightkill cleared winston???

I said that he looked better, not that he was cleared. Later GH was questioning why you had El Barto as lock town and I was the only one who had said something about him.

The Inquisition is my last scum game I believe https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053673169

[edse]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...3#post13767523

Here's the second, a game won as mafia almost a year ago.

[Zack]

I am not sure how the barto nightkill made winston look better

[Zack]

edse sure liked to vote his teammates in inquisition

[Zack]

edse sure liked to vote his teammates in inquisition

and a little bit in master of arcane too, though with the way duels worked in that game I'm not sure how meaningful that is

[Zack]

still I feel the winston nightkill implicates double a

[edse]

And look at this, up for the lynch last day but manages to convince ATPG and game is won https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053630361

[Zack]

okay, stop gloating about past victories and start trying to solve this one

[Zack]

also walk me through your thinking wrt barto nightkill and winston

[edse]

I am not sure how the barto nightkill made winston look better

But why did you have Winston down as town then?

10 living players, 5 dead townies

2 Town: Zack (duh), Winston (duh)

2 Scum: Beskar (been there), BSmith (lurking, jumps in on low-effort bandwagon --> bsmith is mafia)

4 Undecided: GeneralHankerchief (lean scum), atheotes (lean bleh), khaan (lean town), edse (lean town)

2 Inactive: Double A, Pelican (lean scum)

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I assume there's 3 scum in a 15 player game. {Beskar, BSmith, x} where x ≠ Zack, Winston Hughes. Right now my gut says GH and the scum piled on al sips to save beskar, but that does seem a bit foolhardy. I can see Pelican as mafia since Beskar mentioned him being inactive somehow automatically made him town and tried to move votes off him.

This GH post is really weird, I'd like him to explain it:


How do you define someone "heavily involved with yesterday" and why aren't they scum?

[Zack]

I mean, look at my posts through this game. I've never played anything like this as scum. That's not to say it's beyond possibility I could have changed it up here, but it should at least give you pause, what with the actual 'evidence' against me amounting to two-fifths of squat.

...

[Zack]

answer my question ffs