IKEA mafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I already implied he was my scummiest null read.

Ok my brain didn't copy that.

I think edse-guilty universe and edse lynch d1 results in live clear townies and a probable town win.

Edse innocent universe is pretty bad tho. I also don't know how to feel confident that's the way to go. It's not like today was that unusual for edse.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't like to lynch someone who can potentially be lock cleared by Jarema's guilty flip.

In turn, I wouldn't want to lynch inside of GH and Zack who would also be really clear due to edse's guilty flip.

Is there someone who we have even less information on?

[El Barto]

I have a magic bag full of goodies this game. I can clear a lot of people it would seem.

Lemme guess: you've peeked on Jarrema n0 and that's why you insist on lynching him.

I already implied he was my scummiest null read.

Is it just my fever, or is there a contradiction between someone being a null read and their being scummy?

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, I won't get that fancy.

If I say we can lynch someone, that's not a lie.

I've had to deal with too much fancy seer garbage that almost always destroys towns that I promise in an OOG way that I'd never fricking do that to the people I like playing games with. I won't even do it to the people I don't play games with.

I won't give a guilty peek on a villager as the real cop. I also won't say we can lynch my peeks. That's bs and I think we all know it.

[Raith Kemmler]

I don't like to lynch someone who can potentially be lock cleared by Jarema's guilty flip.

In turn, I wouldn't want to lynch inside of GH and Zack who would also be really clear due to edse's guilty flip.

Is there someone who we have even less information on?

We never know anything about John. Not a revealing flip without some wagons ahoy, but he's a pretty grand 'that guy' to take out in a pinch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I might be building a bridge too far here with some of the worlds I'm constructing.

To get us all on the same page-

Let's say someone claims cop with an innocent result on X.

Let's say someone counterclaims cop with an innocent result on Y.

Cop 1 or Cop 2 might be guilty. X and Y might also be guilty.

But, there's one likely universe where X can be lock cleared. Don't lynch X first, ever. The chances are high that you lose the game, and there's a logically more productive and safe option, even if you lynch outside of the claims.

Basically, find someone who isn't cop1 or cop2 or X or Y, if you were to go that route.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I don't like to lynch someone who can potentially be lock cleared by Jarema's guilty flip.

In turn, I wouldn't want to lynch inside of GH and Zack who would also be really clear due to edse's guilty flip.

Is there someone who we have even less information on?

Well, BSmith and edse just have sign up posts. Golden1Knight's only post is a vote for me (no statement to go along with), and Punisher and john have an equal amount of posts as edse.

We could also do Jarema and lock clear a couple of folks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We never know anything about John. Not a revealing flip without some wagons ahoy, but he's a pretty grand 'that guy' to take out in a pinch.

That's probably viable. He flips guilty, then you are lock clear.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, BSmith and edse just have sign up posts. Golden1Knight's only post is a vote for me (no statement to go along with), and Punisher and john have an equal amount of posts as edse.

We could also do Jarema and lock clear a couple of folks.

You mean atheotes, not edse, I believe.

Mmm, we're getting some good intel from this exercise regardless. But there will be diminishing returns if it continues.

Why not choxorn? Does anyone actually object to choxorn dying, why or why not.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, meant atheotes.

Lemme do a quick reread of Chox's stuff.

[Jarema]

I think that lynching Choxorn is better idea than lynching me.
I also like GH posts about his d1 activity.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Huh, I thought he had more posts.

One joke, one question of why he was defending me so heavily (probably null since he doesn't hang out on this forum as much), and chiming in at the height of my "RARGH IT'S DAY ONE LEAVE ME ALONE" bit an hour or so ago.

Unless you think he's more scummy or his flip lock clears somebody, I'd go for someone else.

[Zack]

I object to choxorn dying aorn.

[Askthepizzaguy]

El Barto

Help me solve you, point at a scumbag and suggest we lynch there right now. Make it someone who isn't Jarema, GH, me, or a 0 or 1 poster.

Whether we follow your advice or not, and I might do so on a whim, it would be helpful. Shoot in the dark, what do you hit?

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Jarema

Was that a vote? If so you might want to format it properly and perhaps unvote just to be safe.

@Zack

I'm listening, why do you object?

[Zack]

choxorn seems town to me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Isoing Zack atm

Starting to think Visor might have been right.

[Zack]

I feel like there is a wolf in {GeneralHankerchief, Askthepizzaguy, Visor}.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I feel like there is a wolf in {GeneralHankerchief, Askthepizzaguy, Visor}.

Unvote
Vote: AdmiralKleenex

Hard claim Mason

Not a fake claim

I am asking for villagers to follow me for day 1

[Zack]

Unvote
Vote: AdmiralKleenex

Hard claim Mason

Not a fake claim

I am asking for villagers to follow me for day 1

what?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hard claim with enough hours to go that, if need be, I could ask my partner to hard claim it with me.

Under zero pressure.

Your move.

[Zack]

i repeat my question

what?

[Askthepizzaguy]

i repeat my question

what?

Lynching you provides me with the most information at present.

[Zack]

don't make me ask a third time

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sure, I could go the irritating cheeky route, but I've already probably ticked off enough people for one game.

This is where I am at:

If Zack is scum then

GH is lock clear by votes by both parties
Johnhughthom is lock clear by his 2nd vote
Visor is lock clear for suspecting Zack early after putting him as town
I am lock clear (too bad I'm already always lock clear) for calling for his head d1 with my hard claim
My mason partner is lock clear because I must always be murdered thereby proving my claim and locking him clear.

That's five villagers lock clear and 1 dead scum.

[Zack]

too bad zack isn't scum

[Askthepizzaguy]

too bad zack isn't scum

AdmiralKleenex, on the other hand.

[Zack]

what caused your hardclaim and vote, i don't see the progression

[Sooh]

Vote count:

AdmiralKleenex (3) - GH, johnhughthom, askthepizzaguy
GH (5) - AdmiralKleenex, Raith Kemmler, El Barto, Golden1Knight, Choxorn
Jarema (5) - Visor, Al Sips, edse, Punisher, seireikhaan
johnhughthom (1) - Double A
Choxorn (1) - Jarema

Not voting: atheotes, BSmith

Just under 24 hours to go!



(I am counting Jarema's bolding of Choxorn's name as a vote. I would appreciate that votes were cast in the format Vote: [name] from now on so I don't miss anything.)

[Raith Kemmler]

Atpg, claim seems nice, but Zack case is a bit of a stretch? I can vote switch, but the data thing is kind of looping you I think as I'm not following you either at this point.

(I am counting Jarema's bolding of Choxorn's name as a vote. I would appreciate that votes were cast in the format Vote: [name] from now on so I don't miss anything.)

The formatting in this thread is too damn high complicated!