Tokens of My Confection [Concluded]

[novice]

Wait, we don't get the result until EOD?

[Cuthillius]

Wait, we don't get the result until EOD?

That is unfortunately the case.

[NotACop]

We can test the claim by lynching one of GH or BSmith today instead, so Cuth can use his power on the other one.
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
So, Cuth, you use your power on BSmith(at least that would be my recommendation).

[NotACop]

If Cuth is actually town, my guess would be Newyn as the third scum, mostly based on having town reads on the rest and him being UTR for the whole game.
But we'll find out if Cuth is

[BSmith]

Ye this post from BSmith on D2 is pretty bad.

And he doesn't get the GH wagon, stating he probably wouldn't get any wagon at the present time. Strange thing to say regardless of what role GH actually has.

It’s still early on D2 with zero real information to base any kind of wagon on. There is little evidence to support a wagon on anyone at this time.

BSmith and Cuth both parked their D2 votes early on Zack and had no interest in reconsidering.

As I already said, my vote was an attempt to generate a reaction. The reaction I got from Zack came across as more “meh” than indignant opposition. I was frankly expecting the latter. D2 I still don’t really care who gets lynched as there is still no info to make a real informed decision. I saw no reason to change my vote to anyone else as there was no compelling reason to do so.

Pizza wanting people not to mind BSmith, giving him a pass for really thin reasons.

Pizza knows I am not mafia so of course I am deserving of a pass… It’s clear that Pizza was pocketing me. Frankly he could also have been pocketing Cuth too..

There's never not a scum in Cuth+BSmith here. This is on D3. He voted GeneralHankerchief mid of D2 while his wagon wasn't really serious, and now on D3 where GeneralHankerchief could easily become a lynch, he suddenly has 4 persons in his lynch group, with GeneralHankerchief being the the furthest away from bottom of those 4.

Paranoid town in me feels that perhaps all the song and dance with GH was a distraction. Pizza was probably always going to go for the alternative but is putting on an act with regards to accusing GH. Classic distancing. See the Scarlet lynch as an example. I get the sense that Pizza was always going to come back to Scarlet in the end.

hardclaim desperado

let's talk about this

i can shoot someone, if scum they will die at EoD and if town I die at EoD

if they are the top wagon the next highest wagon will be lynched instead

so forth

That's perfect. You should shoot GH or BSmith then.

Shooting me will result in your death. In a perverse sense it will resolve both of us at the same time though, so I can’t say I am totally against it.

I’m fine with vote: GH today given the above feeling; Cuth’s claim, and the avenue to resolve both me and Cuth today.

[novice]

We can test the claim by lynching one of GH or BSmith today instead, so Cuth can use his power on the other one.
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
So, Cuth, you use your power on BSmith(at least that would be my recommendation).

Cuth could be scum angling for a final mislynch. You didn't breadcrumb your role by any chance, Cuth?

Still, all things considered:
Vote: GeneralHankerchief.

[Dp101]

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

[novice]

I think it's wise to use our time during the night phase and re-examine Pizza's post, specifically within the last phase or two, from the viewpoint that he was expecting to go down - and then we should act based off that assumption.

I confess I haven't done this. Have you? What did you find?

[novice]

If Cuth is actually town, my guess would be Newyn as the third scum, mostly based on having town reads on the rest and him being UTR for the whole game.
But we'll find out if Cuth is

Newyn also softclaimed a power role IIRC. Should we get a full claim? Should we do a mass claim?

[Dp101]

I don't see the benefit of mass claims.

[Al Sipsclar]

Vote: Newyn Why are you still alive?

[Dp101]

Vote: Newyn Why are you still alive?

Why shouldn't he be dead?

[Dp101]

Sorry, meant to say why should he be dead.

[Newyn]

Vote: Novice
El Barto
NAC
Is where I'm at in terms of who I think could be scum.
Still believe GH to be town.
Don't like Ak asking that question but I have him as town for other reasons.

[Dp101]

El Barto is dead.

[NotACop]

Vote: Novice
El Barto
NAC
Is where I'm at in terms of who I think could be scum.
Still believe GH to be town.
Don't like Ak asking that question but I have him as town for other reasons.

So you have a confirmed town(El Barto)
Me(town)
and Novice(who's probably my highest town read atm)

as your scum suspects

[Dp101]

Tally as of post 886:

Lynch votes
4 votes: GeneralHankerchief (NotACop, BSmith, novice, Dp101)
1 votes: generalhandkerchief (Cuthillius)
1 votes: Newyn (Al Sipsclar)
1 votes: Novice (Newyn)

Voting history:

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Cuthillius

generalhandkerchief

NotACop

Cuthilius

Cuthillius

GeneralHankerchief

GeneralHankerchief

GeneralHankerchief

GeneralHankerchief

Newyn

Novice

[Al Sipsclar]

Sorry, meant to say why should he be dead.

Yeah, I'm not experienced enough to know if I should be discussing this or even asking that question at all, but he's been hinting at "other reasons" since D2, but mafia dudes seem to ignore him and kill vanillas instead. I'm likely tinfoiling.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

[Dp101]

I feel that 2 out of cuth/gh/BSmith are mafia, and the remaining one is between Al and New. Not ruling out NAC however, and never lynching Novice.

[Newyn]

So you have a confirmed town(El Barto)
Me(town)
and Novice(who's probably my highest town read atm)

as your scum suspects

Ok, so I'm wrong about El Barto but I still think you and novice could be scum.

[novice]

hardclaim desperado

let's talk about this

Did you not want to talk about this now that we're no longer voting for you? Who are you going to shoot? Will we get any mod confirmation prior to EOD that you've taken an action?

[novice]

Vote: Novice
El Barto
NAC
Is where I'm at in terms of who I think could be scum.
Still believe GH to be town.
Don't like Ak asking that question but I have him as town for other reasons.

Minor derpclear for this one.

[Dp101]

Well this thread is quiet. Are we all set then on Cuth targeting BSmith, lynching GH, and then lynching Cuth if he is lying?

[Cuthillius]

Did you not want to talk about this now that we're no longer voting for you? Who are you going to shoot? Will we get any mod confirmation prior to EOD that you've taken an action?

there's not much to say

i will say that before eod

and no, like i said

[novice]

Vote BSmith

I don't want to be second in the tally.

[novice]

Vote: BSmith

[NotACop]

Vote BSmith

I don't want to be second in the tally.

This isn't optimal play if you are town.. It doesn't matter that you are second in tally, that doesn't get you lynched. But when you switch vote, reducing the leading wagon(who we hope is scum), you're allowing scums to snipe at EOD.

Also @Cuthilius could you at least place a correct vote? the one you got on GH is not counting(at least not correctly by bot).

[NotACop]

@Cuthillius should work now

[Newyn]

Personally, think the GH wagon is been steered by wolves and Cuth is BSing to get 1 more mislynch.
Don'y expect anyone to listen but that'd my 2 cents.

[Dp101]

I understand your concerns, and share them to a degree, but even if Cuth is lying we can just lynch him tomorrow.