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    This is an experimental mafia game sign-up.

    Current player list:


    1. dp101
    2. El Barto
    3. monstrbro
    4. Generalhankerchief
    5. Montmorency
    6. Cass_
    7. Sooh
    8. Renata
    9. Al Sipsclar
    10. Cuthillius
    11. Zack
    12. dicetosser1
    13. choxorn
    14. atheotes
    15. BSmith
    16. Winston Hughes
    17. Jabbz
    18. Schema
    19. Visor
    20. Csargo
    21. Riedquat


    There will be two factions, town and mafia.
    There will be no recruitment, forced or otherwise.
    There will be no unusual role PMs, such as jesters. If you get a power role, it will be fairly normal stuff.
    Your win conditions will be known, normal, and straightforward.

    The gimmick here will be....

    Representative Democracy!!!

    It's a really, really bad idea. But I'm going to go with it anyway if I get enough people. Ideally we should get about 20 people or more, otherwise the concept doesn't really work.

    The players will be randomized into an odd number of districts.
    Each district will elect a representative, and only that representative will actually vote in a manner that matters when it comes to the lynch.
    The rule for districts is that the largest-sized district cannot have two or more people more than the smallest-sized district, so all districts will be of the same approximate size, off by a maximum of 1 person.
    As people die off, the districts may need to be re-drawn.
    At game start, there will be a special election for "Chancellor-for-life".
    Only the Chancellor can re-draw districts.
    If the Chancellor dies, a special election for the new Chancellor will happen.
    Whenever the size difference between districts becomes 2 or more, the Chancellor will decide who goes in what district.
    Districts have a minimum size of 3 people.
    Districts can be as large as you like, but there must always be 3 or more districts, and there must always be an odd-number of districts.
    District voting ends when there are 8 players or fewer, because at that point, there would be either one district, or an even number of districts, or districts would end up with 2 people or 1 person.
    If the voters in a district tie, they will not have a representative that round.
    If the district representatives' lynch vote ends in a tie, the Chancellor decides between the tied candidates, and someone will be lynched anyway.


    Example-Sample game:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    1. Renata
    2. Barto
    3. Dp101
    4. Monty
    5. Quat
    6. Bsmith
    7. Novice
    8. Choxorn
    9. Hanky
    10. Zack
    11. Sooh
    12. Winston
    13. Al Sips
    14. Newyn
    15. Scarlett
    16. NAC
    17. Cuth
    18. Khaan
    19. atheotes
    20. Shad
    21. Stork
    22. Visor
    23. spaceman98
    24. JHT
    25. Snerk



    Askthepizzaguy is the outgoing Chancellor-for-life. He died while in office. He had randomly drawn the districts like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Khaan
    Novice
    Dp101
    Quat

    District Two:
    Barto
    Renata
    Sooh
    Stork
    Al Sips

    District Three:
    spaceman98
    Hanky
    Visor
    Cuth
    atheotes

    District Four:
    Winston
    Newyn
    Monty
    NAC
    Zack

    District Five:
    Bsmith
    JHT
    Choxorn
    Shad
    Snerk

    D1: Khaan has been elected Chancellor-for-life
    D1: Shad was lynched, because he hasn't been mislynched enough, in my opinion
    N1: Johnhughthom was murdered, for a change of pace.
    D2: District 5 now only has 3 people in it. The districts will be redrawn by Khaan. He draws them like this for shits and giggles:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Khaan
    Novice
    Dp101
    Quat
    Bsmith
    Barto

    District Two:
    Renata
    Sooh
    Stork
    Al Sips
    Choxorn
    spaceman98
    Hanky
    Visor

    District Three:
    Cuth
    atheotes
    Snerk
    Winston
    Newyn
    Monty
    NAC
    Zack

    D2: Visor was lynched, because loltown
    N2: Snerk was murdered, for being snarky
    D3: The districts are the same size, no redrawing needed.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Khaan
    Novice
    Dp101
    Quat
    Bsmith
    Barto

    District Two:
    Renata
    Sooh
    Stork
    Al Sips
    Choxorn
    spaceman98
    Hanky

    District Three:
    Cuth
    atheotes
    Winston
    Newyn
    Monty
    NAC
    Zack

    D3: NAC was lynched, because lolNAC
    N3: Winston was murdered, for being the fairest of them all
    D4: District Three now has too few people. The districts will be redrawn by Khaan. Now they look like this, because he was drunk:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Khaan
    Novice
    Dp101

    District Two:
    Quat
    Bsmith
    Barto
    Renata

    District Three:
    Sooh
    Stork
    Al Sips
    Choxorn

    District Four:
    spaceman98
    Hanky
    Cuth
    atheotes

    District Five:
    Newyn
    Monty
    Zack

    D4: People don't like the way khaan drew the districts, and he was successfully lynched!
    N4: Sooh was murdered, because she was actually even fairer than them all, but was too humble about it to tell you.
    D5: The districts don't need to be redrawn yet, but Dp101 was elected Chancellor-for-life because he's such an obvious townie.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Novice
    Dp101

    District Two:
    Quat
    Bsmith
    Barto
    Renata

    District Three:
    Stork
    Al Sips
    Choxorn

    District Four:
    spaceman98
    Hanky
    Cuth
    atheotes

    District Five:
    Newyn
    Monty
    Zack

    D5: atheotes was lynched, because it's fun to lynch atheotes. Where is your lack of god now, atheotes?
    N5: Generalhankerchief was murdered, because you can use him to wipe the blood off the knife you just stabbed him with. Convenient!
    D6: Dp101 was forced to redraw the districts again, because District Four is too small. He decided to shuffle people around, because he's secretly evil. Now they look like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Stork
    Al Sips
    spaceman98
    Choxorn

    District Two:
    Renata
    Zack
    Dp101
    Quat
    Bsmith

    District Three:
    Novice
    Cuth
    Newyn
    Monty
    Barto

    D6: Barto was lynched, because he was slacking off and an easy lynch target.
    N6: Zack was murdered, because why the hell wasn't he murdered sooner? lol mafia.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Stork
    Al Sips
    spaceman98
    Choxorn

    District Two:
    Renata
    Dp101
    Quat
    Bsmith

    District Three:
    Novice
    Cuth
    Newyn
    Monty

    D7: Spaceman was lynched, because he's team rocket and he needed to blast off again.
    N7: Al Sips was murdered, because reasons.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Stork
    Choxorn

    District Two:
    Renata
    Dp101
    Quat
    Bsmith

    District Three:
    Novice
    Cuth
    Newyn
    Monty

    D8: It was a three-way tie between Quat, Monty, and Renata for the lynch. Chancellor-for-life Dp101 chose to lynch Monty. Lol Monty.
    N8: Chancellor-for-life dp101 was murdered, because how dare he lynch Monty.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    District One:
    Scarlett
    Stork
    Choxorn

    District Two:
    Renata
    Quat
    Bsmith

    District Three:
    Novice
    Cuth
    Newyn

    D9: Renata is elected Chancellor-for-life, to break ties, since this is the last time district-based representative voting occurs.
    D9: Scarlett was lynched, because poor Alette never catches a break.
    N9: Novice was murdered, because he sniffs out the bullshit.
    D10: Districts no longer happen. Direct voting happens. Renata retains tiebreaking power.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Stork
    Choxorn
    Renata
    Quat
    Bsmith
    Cuth
    Newyn

    D10: Renata is lynched due to rampant paranoia. Loltown. No Chancellor exists anymore and none will be elected due to lack of districts.
    N10: Newyn is tarred and re-feathered.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Stork
    Choxorn
    Quat
    Bsmith
    Cuth

    D11: Choxorn is lynched, because he's choxorn.
    Mafia wins! Congratulations Monty, Reidquat and BSmith, for winning a fictional example game I pulled out of my butt.


    Why the gimmick? Because it gives the mafia opportunities to become Chancellor and create unrepresentative results, possibly. Or maybe to give a decent scum hunter a chance to lynch scums without needing consensus. Who knows? I'm evil and I want to prove how amazing representative democracy is for the average voter.
    Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 12-16-2016 at 19:25.

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    I want to try this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    1. Renata
    2. Barto
    Oh, excellent, I am already on the list. Am I a senator for life, then, representing La DC?
    good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
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    Yes, participation in my democracy is mandatory. I automatically signed everyone up and you basically have to /out to not be in.

    j/k but I could always be not kidding, you never know. I'm unpredictable.



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    I'm more of a fan of enlightened despotism personally, but I suppose this will work in a pinch.

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    You had me at "Representative Democracy"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Yes, participation in my democracy is mandatory. I automatically signed everyone up and you basically have to /out to not be in.

    Everyone ?

    Tentative /in if someone /outs then :p

    Any idea on phase lengths yet?

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    Initiate train wreck mode. Can't look away. Must take part.

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    48/24

    There will be a need for more discussion and a need for more voting time than 24 hours with this setup. I think you'll find on a round where you need to elect a new dictator Chancellor, some folks will be wishing for 3 day day phases. But we gotta keep it to 3 day day-night cycles or faster to keep things moving.

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    Why am I not in? I demand to be in. I furthermore demand chancellor for life because I love power even when I have no idea what to do with it. Let it be written.

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    I'll be your tired, your poor, your huddled mass yearning to breathe free.
    The wretched refuse, basically.

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    i wasn't go in g to, but this sounds intriguing enough

    kinda avalonish

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    in so gh has to write an essay professing his love for me

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    pizza how crazy are the game/post counts here usually?

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    @ Dice- SkypePizza informs me higher posting players often finish a game with about 200 posts...

    Can say the game I played here was lower volume than both DM and the Pizza game we both played on CivFan, but higher than Scooby Doo...

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    VERY USEFUL INFO:

    Game will include players from USA, Europe, and Australia. To accommodate this, I am tentatively choosing to end Day Phases and Night Phases at 8:30 pm my time. This will allow our Aussie players to sometimes see end of days at 630am their time, it will allow me to end phases not in the middle of my night time, and it will allow USA people to have end of day around noon-afternoon depending on where they are. Days will be 48 hours, so regardless of phase end, you should be able to lodge a vote for Chancellor and a vote for the lynch at least once per day.

    Posting minimums: You will be required to post twice per day, and vote at least once per day. If you fail to meet that minimum, it's entirely possible bad things will happen to you, without going into detail.

    All of these rules / FAQ things will be assembled into a single post at the start of the game thread when I am ready, so don't worry about missing them here.

    Just read the Game start host posts and you should be OK.

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    Also responded to dice via IM, but the past few games on here are a good indicator. Most players won't crack 50 posts all game long, and the ones that do typically range from 50-200 ish for a several week game.

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    thanks cass!

    im in pizza

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    one thought

    I need to test if I can get to this website at work. if I cant I may have a problem

    will test tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    D11: Choxorn is lynched, because he's choxorn.
    sounds about right, but when this happens to me, it's usually before lylo

    anyway this idea is terrible and you should feel bad

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    In!

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    VERY USEFUL INFO:

    Game will include players from USA, Europe, and Australia. To accommodate this, I am tentatively choosing to end Day Phases and Night Phases at 8:30 pm my time. This will allow our Aussie players to sometimes see end of days at 630am their time, it will allow me to end phases not in the middle of my night time, and it will allow USA people to have end of day around noon-afternoon depending on where they are. Days will be 48 hours, so regardless of phase end, you should be able to lodge a vote for Chancellor and a vote for the lynch at least once per day.

    Posting minimums: You will be required to post twice per day, and vote at least once per day. If you fail to meet that minimum, it's entirely possible bad things will happen to you, without going into detail.

    All of these rules / FAQ things will be assembled into a single post at the start of the game thread when I am ready, so don't worry about missing them here.

    Just read the Game start host posts and you should be OK.
    The highlighted leaves me as the only neutral who will not show favoritism towards any continent (or Religion). You can also be guaranteed that i will be fast asleep while EOD shenanigans take place...meaning i will not make any rash decisions! Chancellor for LIFE!

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    I just found a critical flaw with the setup. Pizza is always mafia, but he is the host so we can't lynch him, and thus town cannot win.

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    DP, meet Zack. Zack, meet DP.

    Anyways... inners for me, though I have apparently already won the game as scum.
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    Where are you at, Atheotes?

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    Weston 4 President

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    looks like thread is available at work so its a go for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Hughes View Post
    Weston 4 President
    i'll back johhughthom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    in so gh has to write an essay professing his love for me
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    LOL

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