Representative Democracy [Concluded]

[Monstrdude]

Monstrman, pls be town and be my friend <3

Yes and FINE

reading now in italics so this sentence has more emphasis

[Monstrdude]

ZACK! ZACK! ZACK! ZACK! ZACK! ZACK!

Zack?

TWTBAW?

How could anyone be too wolfy to be a wolf by page 2?

All I saw was a bunch of people electing Zack chancellor

[Dp101]

Hi, just woke up, bunch of stuff appears to have happened. The confidence thing that a couple of you have picked up on is a mixture of 2 things. 1, I feel that to be a more effective town player I need to stick to my reads more, so I'm trying to be more forceful. 2, I felt that the mechanics were an interesting way that the game could be solved very easily, so having a clear goal that I could try to accomplish D1 gave me something to post about. Hope this clears that up, I'm open to questions/vague accusations as always. Oh, and the Renata town read comes mostly off of tone at this stage, she seems to be operating as town.

[Monstrdude]

vote cass

shes thinking already. I can see the wheels turning.
@cass You are going to get too wrapped up in this game I can see it a mile off. No posting after 10pm or I start dobbing to ure better half

+1 town dice points for a post that reminds me of one he made the last game we played together

Cass on the rest of this page improves slightly, but I'd still like to see you answer my question tho cause I am very confused by it

I doubt these two are wolves together regardless because I don't think wolf dice makes the bold "elect a wolf chancellor d1" play

[Monstrdude]

Hi, just woke up, bunch of stuff appears to have happened. The confidence thing that a couple of you have picked up on is a mixture of 2 things. 1, I feel that to be a more effective town player I need to stick to my reads more, so I'm trying to be more forceful. 2, I felt that the mechanics were an interesting way that the game could be solved very easily, so having a clear goal that I could try to accomplish D1 gave me something to post about. Hope this clears that up, I'm open to questions/vague accusations as always. Oh, and the Renata town read comes mostly off of tone at this stage, she seems to be operating as town.

This is a villager

[Monstrdude]

Well I mean, maybe I guess

The biggest thing that reads villager to me is "I need to stick to my reads more" but I think that's more of a "echoes my playstyle" so I cant really say you're a lock villager for it as I implied but

Still villagery /shrugs

[GeneralHankerchief]

I've skimmed, sorry.

Do you have a current read of Zack's play, or are you simply going with the intro post?

Nothing that sets off any alarms.

I'll try to be more sharp and have more genuine feelings in the future though.

[Monstrdude]

vote hankerchief

@dice, what for?

If you explained it I'm sorry for asking but mostly I want to talk to you directly because that is how I best make reads

I suppose it will be difficult at this forum though, especially with how busy I am

[Monstrdude]

I've skimmed, sorry.



Nothing that sets off any alarms.

I'll try to be more sharp and have more genuine feelings in the future though.

I just wolfed with Zack not too long ago so I'll see what I find

From what I recall he played mostly a utr pushing villagers game

[Renata]

Hehe.

Sorry.

[Renata]

Crossposts. That was aimed at GH.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I just wolfed with Zack not too long ago so I'll see what I find

From what I recall he played mostly a utr pushing villagers game

Let me elaborate on this, Zack's been taking a pretty common-sense "we want townies as district representatives/idk what my plan is going to be, a lot of it will be depending on the game flow" tactic when questioned about his strategy, which is exactly what I'd expect from town Zack in a position of power.

[Monstrdude]

Now. You like me now .

Wait for the real crazy to come out.

Also, <3 but pocket attempt denied :p

Who else do you like right now?

Villagery

[Monstrdude]

Let me elaborate on this, Zack's been taking a pretty common-sense "we want townies as district representatives/idk what my plan is going to be, a lot of it will be depending on the game flow" tactic when questioned about his strategy, which is exactly what I'd expect from town Zack in a position of power.

Yeah makes sense to me also, but I'm still gonna read him for completeness sake and for my reedz

[Monstrdude]

@Winston Hughes @BSmith @Csargo @Riedquat @El Barto @Monstrbro

gimme power please

Considering it.

I like your claim, but I'm worried you are the kind of person who would just claim that power as scum so I'm gonna keep reading first

[Monstrdude]

This mechanics talk is great and all, but where are the reads

I think Cass is town and renata probably also town

I kinda like Dices first post just because

zack is.... okay? i guess

Ok nvm visor is a villager lol these are like literally exactly my reads and exactly my feelings about the thread up to this point

visor

[Monstrdude]

In fact

visor

[Monstrdude]

Just in case of formatting problems

Vote: visor

Vote: visor

[Monstrdude]

Okok bbl fronds

[Monstrdude]

Dp
Visor
Dice
Cass
Renata probably

Villager list of people that are town friends yay

No strong scum suspects yet

[Monstrdude]

It can only work like this:

1. Lynch wolfy people
2. Win game

See, that's why electing and lynching you works just as well.

A few posts back have had some tone I don't like but this post prolly enough for me to

vote: montmorency

Prolly gone for a while now not sure if I'll make EoD this started at at really hectic time in my life

I'll be around more later tonight if I haven't missed anything

Playing on my phone and skimming because my compuser is broken so idk exactly when deadline is but I'll try to be back

[atheotes]

How is that ever TMI? Might just as well be a claim for all I know.

Scum are in a better position to guess if there are any town PRs and what they might be.
hence i think it is coming from a position of added information. The fact that i have not liked Monty's posting also makes me lean wolf rather than town PR.

[atheotes]

OK. all caught up.
best strat is to divide into as many small districts as possible. Vote for the towniest players to power. Play game like regular mafia. Try and force the rep to vote with majority or atleast give proper explanation. somehow.

Not sure what to make of Visor's claim. perhaps there is no need to worry about it for now.

Town: Cass, Winston Hughes, Visor, Jabbz, dicetosser1. maybe Zack and Dp too.

Willing to lynch within: Renata, GeneralHankerchief, Montmorency, Sooh, El Barto

Vote: Cass
Vote: Zack
Vote: El Barto

[atheotes]

Current tally. request everyone to check their votes.
Pizza, if this is not really useful let me know.

	Blue	Green	Red
DISTRICT ONE	Rep	Chancellor	Lynch
Schema
Cuthillius
Renata	Dp101	Cass	Jabbz
Choxorn		Zack
Dp101	Cuth	GH	Winston
Jabbz	Dp101	Cass	Zack
dicetosser1		Cass	GH
DISTRICT TWO
Winston Hughes	Winston	Visor	El barto
BSmith
Visor	Visor	Visor	Sooh
Csargo	Winston	Monty	Sooh
Riedquat	Visor	Visor	Visor
El Barto	El Barto	El Barto	Renata
Monstrbro	Visor	Visor	Monty
DISTRICT THREE
Montmorency	GH	Cass	Visor
Al Sipsclar
Sooh		Sooh	Zack
Cass_			El barto
GeneralHankerchief	GH	Zack	Sooh
Zack	Zack	Zack
atheotes	Zack	Cass	El barto

[Dp101]

That tally is very nice.

[Renata]

My Internet is out. I,m useless on a phone so don't expect much if anything until it's fixed.

[Jabbz]

Ok, when you wake up, you need to tell me what this simile is meant to evoke, cause I'm really confused.

I'm saying you bounce around a lot from idea to idea and stance to stance.

[Sooh]

Current tally. request everyone to check their votes.
Pizza, if this is not really useful let me know.

	Blue	Green	Red
DISTRICT ONE	Rep	Chancellor	Lynch
Schema
Cuthillius
Renata	Dp101	Cass	Jabbz
Choxorn		Zack
Dp101	Cuth	GH	Winston
Jabbz	Dp101	Cass	Zack
dicetosser1		Cass	GH
DISTRICT TWO
Winston Hughes	Winston	Visor	El barto
BSmith
Visor	Visor	Visor	Sooh
Csargo	Winston	Monty	Sooh
Riedquat	Visor	Visor	Visor
El Barto	El Barto	El Barto	Renata
Monstrbro	Visor	Visor	Monty
DISTRICT THREE
Montmorency	GH	Cass	Visor
Al Sipsclar
Sooh		Sooh	Zack
Cass_			El barto
GeneralHankerchief	GH	Zack	Sooh
Zack	Zack	Zack
atheotes	Zack	Cass	El barto

pretty sure I blued Cass.

[Sooh]

but yay, El barto and I leading the lynch so far.

Happy to see you trust me enough to make me a contender for at least one of the positions today :P

[Jabbz]

What is with this defeatism about day one from you and dp? Its hogwash, IMO. Of course you can catch wolves on day one, and for real reasons, too. I don't think my reads are much better than chance right now on the whole, but in another game I called out three wolves on day one -- voted two and vigged another -- and was right all three times. It can happen.

Your first post reminded me of one of them.

Sure, you can catch a wolf day one, statistically its possible, and it might happen often enough that you get a sense of confirmation bias surrounding it. That doesn't mean its likely, or even probable that the reason you actually got them was because they did something that led to their righteous demise. More likely by far is the fact that you got lucky, and your brain doesn't pay attention to the number of cases where you were SURE you had a scum, and they turned out to be town. It's not fatalism or defeatism, its just reality. I prefer to accept that, and focus on day 1 content with the intent to use it in future days as an established baseline for trends and a backdrop to check future arguments against. It's effective.