Representative Democracy [Concluded]

[Cuthillius]

mafia, my most recent MU game and fairly representative of what i do as scum- also because apart from that i'd have to go back a long time (at least 8 months before this one, i think) to when i was an even worse player, so this is the one you get

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/...bout-Mountains

my last town MU non-turbo non-hydra game, which was in August

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/...xhibition-game

and two org games, both of which i was kinda slanking in for parts and just played absolutely terribly the whole game through, from august and november

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...afia-Concluded
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...tion-Concluded

[atheotes]

here now. All decided for the day?

[Cass_]

he's had moments that make me think he's town

in particular near the end/after the argument about visor's case on me the other night and after winston's push on him

i can't say i'm convinced of his towniness, and there are things that make me worry wrt his tone

but i think he's both, in this game at least, possible to lynch later on if necessary, which isn't always the case, and has a decent likelihood of being town

and i'm not sure what to say to the last q

Why? What made you think that (are you referring to his being upset in both cases?) was Town!Zack, instead of NullZack/ScumZack?

[Monstrdude]

Cuth the lack of any paragraphs in your posts this game and the attitude to which you have approached visor, the wording you've used against him and the case you made to defend yourself and your arguments fit the scum game more than the town game. I understand that bad games happen but you were pretty god damn villagery in the first village game you posted.

I am gonna check your two games on org to compare though

If you're a villager I know you can do better and if you don't do better I might have to lynch you

[Schema]

@Schema

Vote: Schema

Hi.

Hi hi.

If it's seriously down to Cuth v. GH, I don't know. Can't do both.

My thoughts on GH were and are: D1 lack of interest/solviness, detachment, what felt like a forced tone that carried over into early D2, where it seemed more like he was looking for ANYTHING suspect to latch onto instead of actually wanting to solve the game.

On Cuth: All over the place, really bad EOD Sooh stuff. Reads to me like a scummate was up for vote in District 1 and he wanted to make a last effort to save him.

Given the time of year and how a lot of people are playing more detached rn, and what we've seen about Cuth's progressions and lack thereof, and how much revolves around Cuth.

Vote: Cuthillius

[Winston Hughes]

unvote

Vote: Zack

There's no effort to help here. It's just self-serving demands to be lock-cleared for something that isn't even evidence.

Whatever opinions he's supposed to hold are buried in a gigantic pile of spam, and his refusal to make even the slightest effort to help others follow them is straight anti-town at this point.

[Monstrdude]

You were a villager in the org games?

Whatever, I've witnessed you post better. I guess it's not that bad of a look anymore but you had a fire about you in the MU game that just seems lacking here

[Visor]

Who are your top villagers outside of the Brady bunch (Renata etc), schema?

[Monstrdude]

Though I guess I can't do anything to you because it looks like Zack is the candidate from my district

But still

[Cuthillius]

Cuth the lack of any paragraphs in your posts this game and the attitude to which you have approached visor, the wording you've used against him and the case you made to defend yourself and your arguments fit the scum game more than the town game. I understand that bad games happen but you were pretty god damn villagery in the first village game you posted.

I am gonna check your two games on org to compare though

If you're a villager I know you can do better and if you don't do better I might have to lynch you

lool

that town game i was trying to do full sentences because of mtgs people and org doing the same

read literally any of my mu games

both the hydras

ignore the punctuation and paragraph idea

[Cuthillius]

Hi hi.

If it's seriously down to Cuth v. GH, I don't know. Can't do both.

My thoughts on GH were and are: D1 lack of interest/solviness, detachment, what felt like a forced tone that carried over into early D2, where it seemed more like he was looking for ANYTHING suspect to latch onto instead of actually wanting to solve the game.

On Cuth: All over the place, really bad EOD Sooh stuff. Reads to me like a scummate was up for vote in District 1 and he wanted to make a last effort to save him.

Given the time of year and how a lot of people are playing more detached rn, and what we've seen about Cuth's progressions and lack thereof, and how much revolves around Cuth.

Vote: Cuthillius

explain to me what the time of year and more detachedness has to do with your vote, please

[Visor]

@Dp101

Need to vote

[Monstrdude]

lool

that town game i was trying to do full sentences because of mtgs people and org doing the same

read literally any of my mu games

both the hydras

ignore the punctuation and paragraph idea

I saw that on org you cut your words down differently after a quick iso

But you've still been more villagery I've seen it

[Cuthillius]

Why? What made you think that (are you referring to his being upset in both cases?) was Town!Zack, instead of NullZack/ScumZack?

tone /shrug

[Al Sipsclar]

Vote: Monty

[Monstrdude]

Vote: Monty

Spicy

Reasons?

[Winston Hughes]

If Dp101 doesn't show as the deadline gets close, I'll switch my vote to whoever Cass wants as her second choice, assuming she's not happy with my current vote.

[Zack]

unvote

Vote: Zack

There's no effort to help here. It's just self-serving demands to be lock-cleared for something that isn't even evidence.

Whatever opinions he's supposed to hold are buried in a gigantic pile of spam, and his refusal to make even the slightest effort to help others follow them is straight anti-town at this point.

I never said lock clear lol? I pointed at a flaw in your argument

It is not a gigantic pile that's a gross exaggeration. If you can't find anything you didn't look very hard

[Cass_]

Regardless i don't know how you can say I'm scum siding when the most obviously beneficial scum play is something i decidedly did not do

Current list of leans with reasons?

[Schema]

Who are your top villagers outside of the Brady bunch (Renata etc), schema?

Me.

But seriously, dice, Monstr, probably Zack. Monty's play's been strange and I've gone back and forth there. Not a real strong feel on Winston but I'm inclined to think town. I'm not caught up on D2 to inform my earlier reads further.

[Zack]

Current list of leans with reasons?

Oh my god does anyone read my posts or just pretend to

[Montmorency]

Vote: Monty

Hi there. Got evil?

[Visor]

Could be prudent for d1 people to be around to vote in another candidate, iirc elected candidates not voting.is punished according to op

[Cass_]

@Monstr, same question for you

Who are your Current Villagers and PoE with reasons why?

[Cuthillius]

I saw that on org you cut your words down differently after a quick iso

But you've still been more villagery I've seen it

i'm not denying i've been more villagery

i'm more direct and pushy as scum

i have a hard time making extra effort as either alignment

especially as scum

as far as things that are maybe helpful but not really worth the work

like ISOing

but given the fact that i rarely ever do that until the end of the game it's meh

but generally i would say i'm more aggressive in scum games, although i can dial it back and wait things out while still posting a lot, i tend to do that when i've done what i felt i could/needed to and am waiting either to die or for town to kill itself

nudge in right direction and lean back a little

mm

yeah i dunno

the differences between the scum and town games aren't huge

but they're there

maybe more subconsciously than anything

[atheotes]

Atheotes you specifically asked me to choose between only Cuth and Chox.

You never mentioned Barto.

Why wouldn't you want me choosing from a PoE that includes your top scum read?

It doesn't add up.

I was just calling it as i felt. It was also a means to test you. My vote did not matter so did not bother changing it to Chox.

[Zack]

Cuth jabbz and barto for reasons i have already explained

To a lesser extent bsmith for reasons i have also already explained

I am on my phone so I'm not digging it up

[Cass_]

Oh my god does anyone read my posts or just pretend to

I'm going there, but the thing is a maze, can you stop hollering whymefryme and just answer please.

[Dp101]

I'm here Vote: GH

[Visor]

The biggest problem with your game cuth is that you howl in either alignment