Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

[Winston Hughes]

Right, Tempus Fugit. Got it now.

Not quite a year, then.

[Zack]

I can see that for myself.

Bit weak, don't you think?

Post saved to hard drive, so I can bring it up after Al flips wolf.

[Renata]

Then we lynch Winston next.

[Winston Hughes]

Post saved to hard drive, so I can bring it up after Al flips wolf.

Shall we test this straight away?

Al Sipsclar

[Zack]

Shall we test this straight away?

Al Sipsclar

Bit weak, don't you think?

Vote: Winston Hughes

Winton Hughes, atheotes wolf team. Maybe Visor. Al spewed town or mafia, depending on your interpretation.

GH, Renata town.

[Zack]

Sounds like Al's usual M.O. to me.

Why bring up that in particular?

I can see that for myself.

Bit weak, don't you think?

Shall we test this straight away?

Al Sipsclar

I think defending someone, then quickly flipping on it to vote them as a way to defend yourself is not a good look. I'm sure Winston will try to handwave this away as a joke or something, but I don't really buy that.

[Winston Hughes]

Bit weak, don't you think?

A bit weak.

Powerful weak, more like.

[Winston Hughes]

I think defending someone, then quickly flipping on it to vote them as a way to defend yourself is not a good look. I'm sure Winston will try to handwave this away as a joke or something, but I don't really buy that.

I'm not joking, I'm just chatting shit without a care.

[Zack]

I'm not joking, I'm just chatting shit without a care.

So when you defended Al, you didn't really care and were just saying things without actually meaning them?

[Winston Hughes]

So when you defended Al, you didn't really care and were just saying things without actually meaning them?

Not quite.

I mean it does sound like Al's M.O.

Which means that it's not alignment indicative in itself.

But he has just dropped it and not come back, making him a valid place to put a vote.

It is a weak vote on Renata's part, and an even weaker one on mine.

But, hey, I never said I had anything better.

[Renata]

Vote: Winston Hughes

I'm sure you can tone your way out of it if Zack's wrong.

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Winston Hughes

I'm sure you can tone your way out of it if Zack's wrong.

I dunno, I'm not feeling very tonal right now.

Might just have to eat another D1 ML.

[Zack]

Not quite.

I mean it does sound like Al's M.O.

Which means that it's not alignment indicative in itself.

But he has just dropped it and not come back, making him a valid place to put a vote.

It is a weak vote on Renata's part, and an even weaker one on mine.

But, hey, I never said I had anything better.

Well start searching for something better, instead of waiting for it to drop out of the sky.

Your progression on Al just makes no sense to me. And your reaction to my accusation being to defend yourself with "it's okay because I don't care" doesn't exactly change my mind.

[Winston Hughes]

Of course, if you're town, the thing y'all need to be asking yourselves right now is whether I'd ever allow myself to be caught out this easily as scum.

[Winston Hughes]

Well start searching for something better, instead of waiting for it to drop out of the sky.

Your progression on Al just makes no sense to me. And your reaction to my accusation being to defend yourself with "it's okay because I don't care" doesn't exactly change my mind.

I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm trying to read it.

[Zack]

I'm not trying to change your mind.

Of course, if you're town, the thing y'all need to be asking yourselves right now is whether I'd ever allow myself to be caught out this easily as scum.

[Winston Hughes]

You're looking at the surface layer, trying to find reasons to call me scummy.

What you don't seem to be doing is reading between the lines to try and get at my mind.

I don't care that you're voting me at this stage.

I'm interested to see if you're going to try and actually read me at all, rather than just pointing out the obvious.

Which is why I'd like you to engage with the question of if and why I'd allow myself to be caught on such a dumb point right at the start.

[Csargo]

Atheotes is typically a lurker of a lot of the time and Visor often does weird things, but that mutual town read on the slenderest of meetings does seem rather odd.



Isn't OMGUS wonderful?

[Winston Hughes]

Got any reads, Csar?

[Zack]

Ok, tell me your top 3 wolves and top 3 villagers Winston.

[Winston Hughes]

Ok, tell me your top 3 wolves and top 3 villagers Winston.

I've not felt any real pings so far, but I'll look at the thread again.

[Dp101]

I think that both Zack and Winston are clearly town from this engagement.

[Csargo]

Got any reads, Csar?

Zack, Renata, Montmorency all seem townie to me. Visor is quieter than normal, but it is the weekend so who knows. GH is a possibility sort of up in the air for me, but it's day one.

[Winston Hughes]

Yeah, not got much more on the second read.

My gut likes Monty, which is unusual.

I'm feeling a certain sense of tension in Renata.

Snerk's effort levels would seem scummy for him, but he's also hung a massive lampshade on it.

GH gives townie vibes, which means he's making an effort if scum.

[Renata]

I think that both Zack and Winston are clearly town from this engagement.

I'm not sure about either of them. *adjusts tinfoil*

[Renata]

On the plus side that comment is the first from Dp I've been able to assign a read to, and it's not a bad one.

[Dp101]

I'm not sure about either of them. *adjusts tinfoil*

Why? Winston was clearly joking around, Zack tried to assign a read to it, Winston reacted calmly and in a town way. Both are clearly towny after that.

[Renata]

If Zack's a wolf, then Winston's right -- easy inconsistency to make look not-towny. I've even been caught out on something similar myself recently, though it wasn't wolves who initially drew attention to it.

I don't find Winston's reaction as towny as you do; I voted him because of the reaction.

Right now I'm working through whether a wolf Winston would have openly called me tense or would have been running to scum chat yelling about me being an obvious power role instead, sort of thing.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, not got much more on the second read.

My gut likes Monty, which is unusual.

I'm feeling a certain sense of tension in Renata.

Snerk's effort levels would seem scummy for him, but he's also hung a massive lampshade on it.

GH gives townie vibes, which means he's making an effort if scum.

I'm gonna need explanations for the reads on me and Renata.

[Jabbz]

Current Tally Accurate to post 179
11h44m Remaining till end of day.

Lewwyn -2 (Dp101, Sooh)
Montmorency - 2 (GHC, (Atheotes))
Renata - 2 (Montmorency, Snerk)
Winston Hughes - 2 (Kcaz, Renata)
Al Spisclar - 1 (Winston Hughes)
Arakhor - 1 (Csargo)
Atheotes - 1 (Visor)
BSmith - 1 (Al Sipsclar)
Csargo - 1 (Arakhor)
Kcaz - 1 (Choxorn)
Sooh - 1 (Lewwyn)



Voting History

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Al Sipclar BSmith
Arakhor Csargo,
Atheotes Visor , Monmorency
Bsmith No Vote
Choxorn Kcaz
Csargo Arakhor
Dp101 Lewwyn
GeneralHankerchief Sooh, Montmorency
Kcaz Lewwyn, Atheotes, Winston Hughes
Lewwyn Sooh
Montmorency Renata
Renata Montmorency, Snerk, Winston Hughes
Snerk Renata, Choxorn, Renata,
Sooh Lewwyn
Visor Atheotes
Winston Hughes Al Sipsclar