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    Default French Revolution Mafia - sign-up thread [March 8 start date]

    "Would you realize what Revolution is, call it Progress; and would you realize what Progress is, call it Tomorrow."
    ~ Hugo

    "The French Revolution gave birth to no artists. The only poet of the times was the guillotine."
    ~ Camus

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    Paris, 1793

    It is the fifth year of the French Revolution, and its fate is balanced on a guillotine’s edge.

    The country is besieged on all sides by enemies, currently fighting against Austria, Prussia, Spain, Portugal, Britain in a fierce war that threatens the new republic’s survival. In response, the governing body of France, the National Convention, has declared a levée en masse, or mandatory conscription of the country’s young men. While the sheer numbers of troops suddenly available to France may even the odds, they still have a long way before turning the tide.

    While these external threats are certainly potent, it is the nation’s internal problems that truly threaten to tear France apart. Across the country, particularly in the western region known as the Vendée, counter-Revolutionary violence has sprung up in response to the increasingly radical direction the government has gone in recently. Divided at all levels of society - community, family, church, and more - every individual has had to make a choice: Where exactly do you stand politically? With the stakes of selecting the “wrong” answer to this question growing ever more severe, everyone is on edge.

    Louis XVI is dead, sentenced by the Convention and executed by means of that great equalizer, the guillotine. Lafayette and Mirabeau, those great noble heroes of the people, are either in exile or dead. In Paris, the common people, known as the sans-culottes, have taken to patrolling the streets in paramilitary groups in order to enforce their ideals of the way things should be. The optimistic verses of the Revolutionary anthem Ça Ira (“It Will Be Fine”), so popular in 1790 and carrying the hope of every Frenchman that the dreams of 1789 would be realized, have largely been replaced by more bloodthirsty stanzas calling for the death of the aristocrats and priests. The ambitious Constitution of 1793, designed to further the aims of the Revolution and to continue the march towards equality, was suspended before ever going into effect due to the national emergency.

    The Revolution’s innocence has departed, and the Reign of Terror has arrived.

    In the National Convention, four separate factions vie for power:
    - The Mountain (or Montagnards), a fast-rising political group who want to continue the radical turn the Revolution has taken. They are ruthlessly competent, have some of the brightest political thinkers of the era, but have also racked up quite a high body count in pursuit of their goals.
    - The Girondins, the formerly-majority party who have lost some of their influence but are still strong. The Girondins are seen as moderate (for those who view that as a good thing) and experienced, but are also increasingly perceived as lazy, corrupt, and largely to blame for France getting into so many wars.
    - The Populists, who have seen what the common people of France can do when truly inspired and want to further tap into that power for the sake of the nation. The Populists more than anyone else enjoy the support of the sans-culottes of Paris and elsewhere, but are also disunited in political views (ranging from somewhat moderate to ultra-radical) and are seen as ineffective at actually governing.
    - The Militarists, hypercompetent specialists in usually one or two fields who want to put their expertise to better use. The Militarists, if united, can almost certainly do what is needed to keep France afloat, but they are also seen as little more than ambitious technocrats who are largely distrusted by the people (and themselves).

    All four of the factions have roughly equal representation in the National Convention, each with their own specific strengths and weaknesses. At the end of the day, only one faction can emerge triumphant and direct the course of the Revolution to their will.

    However, what they don’t know is that a fifth faction has secretly infiltrated the Convention: The Royalists. Driven underground but not entirely exterminated despite the Convention’s best efforts, this faction’s greatest desire is to kill everyone else, take back control of the government, and restore a Bourbon to the throne and end the Revolution altogether, a completely unacceptable result for anyone other than themselves.

    Will the four main factions put aside their differences long enough to stop the Royalist threat, knowing that only one of them may emerge triumphant at the end? Will the Royalists complete their goal and turn the clock back on the country forever? Will the draconian policies of the Terror be enough to truly safeguard the gains of the Revolution? The world is waiting to find out.


    French Revolution Mafia


    Overview:
    Welcome to French Revolution Mafia! You will play an elected member of the National Convention - the governing body of France during the Reign of Terror - and are part of one of four political factions, as described in the above flavor as well as the rules below. Your job is simple: outnumber the other three factions by the end of the game, and eliminate the Royalists, who have infiltrated the Convention and serve as the mafia faction this game. Maintaining a perfect balance between these two aims will be the key to obtaining victory.

    Game setup and rules:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    French Revolution Mafia is a game designed for 24 players. Each player will be randomly assigned a role belonging to one of four factions. Once this is decided, a second rand will determine the mafia, who are an unspecified number. This means that, while unlikely, it is theoretically possible for all of the mafia to be a part of one faction.

    Each faction will be assigned factional abilities, which will be further described in the “Factional Abilities” section of your role PM. In addition, a small amount of players will have individual personal abilities.

    Voting is to be done in the traditional .Org style, like so:

    Vote: GeneralHankerchief

    Unvote: GeneralHankerchief
    Vote: Sasaki Kojiro


    Simply bolding a name is not enough and will not be counted. Abstain and No Lynch are both allowed. You do not need to unvote (or specify who you are unvoting), but it is appreciated. I will be tallying by hand, so any vote counts made by novice's tool or other software, while welcome, are unofficial.

    Phase lengths will generally run 48/24, with some exceptions (I will be out of town for the first weekend in March, so that one will probably be extended). The start/end times of phases may drift over time as the game progresses - please allow for my work schedule and dedication to providing good flavor.

    You may not directly quote role PMs or any other communication from me. No screenshots are to be used.

    You may not talk to players outside the game thread or host-provided Quicktopics.

    Posts are not to be edited, however, I will give you a one-minute grace window to correct spelling/grammatical errors. No actual content is to be added or deleted. As moderator, I have the power of viewing the original version of an edited post, so I will be checking this!

    Tie votes will be decided by random selection.

    Inactive players will be handled on a case-by-case basis.

    I will lock the public thread at night, however, your individual faction Quicktopics (including the mafia one) will be open 24/7.

    Roles and factions will be revealed upon death; individual abilities will not.

    There is to be no posting after death, for the first time ever in one of my games (I will allow for one generic comment immediately postdeath). A spectator chat for the dead will be provided.

    Lastly, all of the Gameroom rules apply: Be reasonable, friendly, and, of course, have fun!

    Historical disclaimer:
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    This mafia game is intended to explore two of the most debated historiographical questions of the French Revolution: Were the excesses and killings of the Reign of Terror justified in keeping France secure, and was the Terror necessary in preserving the gains made in 1789 or were they a perversion of the Revolution’s original ideas?

    While I have made an effort to remain historically faithful, this game takes place during a very complex period of history and some concessions will have to be made for the sake of simplicity. A partial but by no means complete list of these are as follows:

    - The historical Reign of Terror took place during a period of little more than a year, from Spring 1793 to July 1794. I’m condensing its events into a period of around a week.
    - I’m setting the game during an indeterminate time in 1793. Events during the period, both early and late, will be cherry-picked and inserted in the game possibly out of chronological order for flavor purposes.
    - Not every character I’ve made into a role was an actual delegate of the National Convention.
    - During the Terror, many of the characters present in this game were out of Paris on various missions and otherwise for portions of the year. Obviously we will assume that they were all present in the city for the duration of the game.
    - The Montagnards were pretty much the dominant political faction for the entire period. Here, I’ve made it more even. This includes some fudging of characters’ political affiliations.

    Selected bibliography:

    McPhee, Peter. Liberty or Death: The French Revolution. New Haven: Yale University Press, 2015.

    Mercier, Louis-Sébastien. Le Tableau de Paris. Edited by Jeremy D. Popkin. State College: Penn State University Press, 1999.

    Palmer, R. R. Twelve Who Ruled: The Committee of Public Safety during the Terror. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1941.

    Roux, Jacques. “Manifesto of the Enragés.” Translated by Mitchell Abidor. Address presented at the National Convention, Paris, France, 1793. https://www.marxists.org/history/fra.../enrages01.htm

    Scurr, Ruth. Fatal Purity: Robespierre and the French Revolution. London: Chatto & Windus, 2006.

    Tackett, Timothy. The Coming of the Terror in the French Revolution. Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 2015.

    Thompson, J. M. Leaders of the French Revolution. Hoboken: Blackwell Publishing, 1988.


    More on factions:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    As detailed above, there are four separate factions in this game:
    - The Montagnards
    - The Girondins
    - The Populists
    - The Militarists
    With the Royalists serving as the mafia.

    Each faction has their own unique set of powers. Anybody in the faction can perform any ability at night, however, some abilities are secretly linked to a player known only by me. Upon that player's death, the faction will lose access to that ability. For example, if I (unknowingly) was linked to my faction's 2x vig shot ability, anybody could perform those vig shots, but if I died before those shots were taken, my faction could no longer make use of that ability.

    Each faction will have access to a Quicktopic where members can discuss strategy with each other (open both day and night), but there is a chance of your faction being infiltrated by the Royalists, so beware! The Royalists will not be allowed to share these links with each other, nor will they be allowed to excessively quote from them. They will only be permitted to paraphrase bigger-picture stuff.

    Only one faction will ultimately win the game, with a single specific exception that will be described in your role PM.

    Partway through the game, new abilities or additional uses of present ones may be given to each faction at my discretion. I will not unfairly favor or penalize any one faction when and if this event transpires.


    Signing up:
    We're aiming for a February 28th start. I'm going to be pretty hard and fast about sticking to 24 players for this one. First come, first served, all subs are welcome! I'm not 100% confident this game is balanced, but I am pretty sure it will be fun. And hey, you might learn something!

    Signed up (24/24):
    Montmorency
    Csargo
    Lewwyn
    Renata
    Dp101
    BSmith
    Zack
    Arakhor
    seireikhaan
    Choxorn
    atheotes
    Kagemusha
    Snerk
    Fenn
    Askthepizzaguy
    Sooh
    autolycus
    Al Sipsclar
    El Barto
    Jabbz
    NotACop
    Logic
    Manasi
    Monstrdude

    Subs:
    Last edited by GeneralHankerchief; 03-06-2017 at 18:09.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.


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    Sample PM:

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    Your role is:

    Louis XVI



    "I must always consult public opinion; it is never wrong."

    Biography:
    Wikipedia link
    Louis XVI was never meant to be King - he had a popular older brother, but he died of tuberculosis in 1761. One wonders what would have happened to France had this brother stayed healthy, but instead, they got Louis and all that came with him: an unpopular marriage to an Austrian princess, anxiety over his seeming inability to produce an heir, and a terrible financial situation that only managed to get worse through both actions he could control (expensive intervention in the American Revolutionary War, failure to reform an unfair and unstable financial system) and those he could not (years of bad harvests). After several failed attempts at solving this issue, Louis eventually ended up calling up the Estates-General to address the crisis - and promptly lost control of the situation as the Estates, later the National Assembly, voted themselves more and more power. In the name of solidarity and patriotism (and maybe a little bit of pragmatism) Louis played along for a while, but as the Revolution continued he grew fed up and tried to flee to Austria. He was caught and returned to Paris, and pretty much all goodwill he had with the public evaporated. In the aftermath of this flight, Louis first lost his crown and then his life, being guillotined for high treason on January 21st, 1793.

    Faction:
    Royalists
    The Royalists were in control of France for over a thousand years until recently, and they would very much like that control back, thank you. Believing in the divine right of kings, ancient owed privileges, and seigneurialism, the Royalists view all other political factions - from the more moderate Militarists and Girondins, to the radical Montagnards and Populists - as interlopers that need to be put back in their place.

    Quicktopic link:
    [QUICKTOPIC LINK]

    Factional abilities (note: not representative of the actual in-game factional abilities):
    L’état, c’est moi: Nightly kill.
    Seigneurial rights: 4x jailkeeper.
    Le Boucanier: The grandson of a noble who spent some time aboard pirate ships in the New World has recently returned to Europe, and he’s damn good with a rapier. Additional nightkill. 1x.
    Let them eat cake: Delicious cake is baked especially for your enjoyment. 3x.

    Goal:
    Parity with all other factions combined.

    Individual abilities:
    Flight to Varennes: 1x bulletproof, but all votes against you for the remainder of the game count double after activation of this ability.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
    Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.


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    There is to be no posting after death, for the first time ever in one of my games
    Inprecedented.
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    In.
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    In!

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    Et préparez vous pour le roleplay magnifique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Hughes View Post
    If vous thought je semblered scummy dernière fois, vous had best brace vous-self.
    I have no concerns. I'm going to roll scum for sure. Down with the filthy peasants like yourself.

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    Is Arno Dorian a character in this?

    I've just finished playing through AC: Unity, so I'll definitely be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arakhor View Post
    Is Arno Dorian a character in this?

    I've just finished playing through AC: Unity, so I'll definitely be in.
    Haven't played it (I exited the series after the... adventure... that was ACIII), but I heard it was of pretty questionable quality and I'm arrogant enough to say that I'll do better than them.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
    Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.


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    Now that most of the bugs have been sorted out, it's a reasonable game. I wasn't a fan of AC III either, but AC IV (set in the age of piracy) was pretty damn good.

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    Je suis le baguette, hon hon hon.





    Hey waitaminute....
    Quote Originally Posted by GH
    - I’m setting the game during an indeterminate time in 1793. Events during the period, both early and late, will be cherry-picked and inserted in the game possibly out of chronological order for flavor purposes.
    Literally unplayable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Haven't played it (I exited the series after the... adventure... that was ACIII), but I heard it was of pretty questionable quality and I'm arrogant enough to say that I'll do better than them.
    Same here, and I just generally don't play console games as I much as I did 5 years ago.

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    Je envisage de poster en français, même si je ne sais rien d'autre que bonjour!
    prendre plaisir!

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    I will play. In.
    Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.

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    No mutiny mechanics in this one, Kage.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
    Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    No mutiny mechanics in this one, Kage.
    Dont awaken the mob..Specially in this setting..
    Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.

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    Wish I could play, but with my comps coming up I just don't have the time to be even remotely engaged in a game.

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    Tagging the people who indicated interest in the other thread (from last month) and haven't either already signed up or told me they can't make it:

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    @Visor ("probably") @Monstrdude @Al Sipsclar @autolycus @Askthepizzaguy @Fenn @Sooh (unclear, something about ice cream) @Snerk (can't guarantee balance so this *should* fill your requirements :P)


    If this is your first time in the thread, I'm intending to start on the 28th.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
    Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.


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    AFAIK they don't play Mafia, but here on the Org are a couple of old French socialists, Brenus and Tristuskhan. I'd love for them to play just because, and have placed a game advert in the French thread where they should come across it.
    Vitiate Man.

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    If, as I fear, this does not start on the 5th day of the month of March, a Sunday, or later, then I will have to be a substitute available as from that day. Au revoir, Générale Foulard.
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    Sacre Bleu!

    Activity level might be somewhat sporadic, similar to my previous game. If that's ok then I'm dans.

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    Can't be very active around March 3, but otherwise I'll be in it to win it.

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    Vive la resistance

    Anachronistic French reference ftw

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    Alright. Put me in, but I refuse to speak French!

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