Day 3 bucketing from my perspective
Me
Almost Certainly Republican :
Zack
Manasi
Renata
al sipsclar
Montmorency
Leaning Republican:
Winston: Feels like normal town-Winston ramping up
Snerk: People are vouching for him, and
Choxorn: Activity level fairly typical for choxorn, decent content
Toss-up:
El Barto- Was away at the beginning, but doesn't seem to really be back. Too little to read, but we do have Renata's post
Lewwyn- First vote on Jabbz, but otherwise a null read for me.
NotACop-Similar dp101 vendetta to khaan. I don't have a baseline history with him, so it's hard for me to read his tone.
Leaning Royal:
dp101-Last vote on the bandwagon Day 1, can read that either way. Seems a little over-sensitive. I want to see the "elaborate later" he promised
khaan- His tone feels a bit off, but his analysis is decent. If we have multiple Royalists left, I think one of dp101 and him is Royal
Csargo- Fairly frequent posts, but saying remarkably little
Vote: Csargo
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Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I think I'll Vote: NAC. His tone has been very weird and off, and the majority of his posts just haven't felt like they have come from a townie following the thread. Plus, I reread some of his scum games when playing with him recently, and they seem to match up with this decently.
I'd prefer it if we didn't lynch NAC, our faction is already one member smaller than everyone else's. There's several other perfectly good suspects.
Ross/off
Because I either missed it or forgot. I truthfully got bored in the thread for much of the first couple days because my shitpost limit was very quickly reached so I started skimming. Either way, you saying that straight up doesn't mean *anything* to me. Seriously. You're basically telling me to trust your word that you trust DP's word in a place I CAN'T SEE. So deal.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Tally as of post 940. Please correct me if there are any errors.
Csargo: 2 | Zack (861), autolycus (932)
NotACop: 2 | Snerk (874), Dp101 (936)
Winston Hughes: 1 | Renata (856)
Dp101: 1 | seireikhaan (919)
Round ends:
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
You know, I always get lynched when I always OMGUS people. Lacking any better leads (I don't want a Csargowaggon for scum to hide when I haven't read most of his posts), vote: Dp101
I've decided not to say anything when I have nothing to say.
That is either a cunning Discworld reference or you've had some interesting experiences.
You… can try to provide something.
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Can't you?
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
So, you are voting me because you die when you OMGUS? And how was what I said in any way a lead.
Let's see. I have limited time to post, given Citoyen Foulard's curious end-of-day times. At the moment, your best bet seems to be to wait around for somebody to vote you and then vote you back. Why aren't you voting for either me or 'khaan, rather than NotACop? I got roasted for voting NotACop yesterday. You explain it. I'll be off to RL soon, so my vote stays where it is.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
Why do you find it unbelievable that I would have gone to check the game and post that quickly? Also, the thing that contradicts bussing was laid out earlier, but essentially I said that I was voting Jabbz even though I thought he was town, just because he was the counterwagon to a lynch in my faction. There is no reason I would ever say something like that if I was hunting for towncred for a bus.
What is so exemplary of Auto's performance? Here's full, unabridged collection of his works:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Joke vote NAC, voted BSmith over Manasi, said Jabbz was not on his radar, shaded Arakhor, nudged NAC and atheotes, voted Monty, voted Sooh, voted atheotes, put Monty in the top tier, shaded dp and khaan, voted Csargo.
Oh sorry I forgot to add my list.
Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
Dp101
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
Renata
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack
I know it looks suspiciously like GH's, but I swear that's just a coincidence.
I have provided substance I think along with some random fluff. I can give a detailed list of what I think at this point.
Al Sipsclar - ATPG vouched for him; ATPG = town; seems good
autolycus - quiet, Zack said mechanically important(?); factional ties(?) not sure, no reason to believe it.
Choxorn - legit
Csargo - terrible
Dp101 - a real go-getter that one
El Barto - less than ideal amount to look through, but recent candid posts make me think town;
Lewwyn - dunno
Manasi- a lot going on there, I haven't gotten any bad vibes/reads.
Montmorency- had an off feeling about him the whole game. Day 1 especially with Snerk and everything else. Seems better now, but still.
NAC- Didn't like the reads posted thought they were off, haven't really liked the content or timings of posts.
Renata - the best around
seireikhaan - roleplaying entire game basically doesn't look good. minimal posts, only positive is Jabbz vote at this point, but I don't put much weight on that. Highly likely scum imo.
Snerk - Monty vouched for him being for Jabbz lynch(?) responses were good when questioned about it imo
Winston Hughes - Thought Sooh was sketchy, Winston has seemed excellent so far
Zack - dunno, I doubt the autolycus story; don't think he's nearly as townie as everyone else apparently.
Vote:seireikhaan
Basically khaan, NAC are my top two.
It goes counter to the entire purpose of a bus, and you call that action WIFOM as to whether or not I would do it? It feels like you are disregarding anything that could clear me, and are just going after me regardless of what my alignment might be. Vote: Al Sipsclar
I'd like to find what are you doing for town, Dp. So far, you're only defending yourself.
Copying the master list of living people from GH, as is tradition
Al Sipsclar
autolycus
Choxorn
Csargo
Dp101
El Barto
Lewwyn
Manasi
Montmorency
NotACop
Renata
seireikhaan
Snerk
Winston Hughes
Zack
Out of these, I'd place Renata, Lew, Zack, Chox, Manasi at the top, in no particular order. Most of these are due to good tone, cases, and D1 events. Kinda null for me currently is Snerk, Csargo, and Auto. They haven't done that much great, but also don't feel that them being town is that unlikely. Winston gets his own spot, as while his posting has been good the slot he replaced wasn't that great. Willing to give him a chance for now. Monty also gets his own spot, because on reflection I have no idea what his early consistent pushing of me could actually mean. Lynchable pile goes Barto, Khaan, NAC, and AL. Most of these are here for varying degrees of incoherent posting + downright odd pushes on me. Yes, I am aware that NAC and Barto are incompatible, but I'm not sure which one to raise from the depths.
No doubt I've contradicted about half of my reads and cases in the course of making this list, but such is the price of organisation.
And, while he claims he wouldn't do that to get towncred, he has in fact gotten towncred for saying it, hasn't he?
If he's scum, and it's Jabbz vs. one of Dp's faction mates for the lynch earlier in the day and some other viable candidates for the lynch hanging in their vicinity, he could easily say something like that privately to his faction to try to get them to trust him a bit more- both saying that he's on the side of this faction, first and foremost, and will do what he can to avoid lynching someone in the faction, but he's also saying that he thinks his scumbuddy is town, because Dp doesn't actually want to lynch Jabbz if he can avoid it. Dp is hoping that he can push some other townie, like BSmith, into the lynch, so that he doesn't have to choose between his scumbuddy and someone in his faction, but if it comes down to it, as it did at EoD on Day 1, he can come in at the end, bus his scumbuddy without looking like he's bussing his scumbuddy, and get lots of towncred and faction cred for it.
For what it's worth, Dp, I had you as a townlean before and I still think the cases against you are reaching a bit, but you're by no means lock clear.
Since all the cool kids are doing it:
Strong Town Leans:
Renata
Zack
Al Sipsclar
Manasi
Town Leans:
Lewwyn
Could be either/Null Leans:
Dp101
Winston Hughes
Snerk
Csargo
Montmorency
NotACop
seireikhaan
Scum Leans:
Autolycus
El Barto
Ah, well, there goes some of my theory.
I could still see you saying something like that as scum just to mindgame, since you'd already know what Jabbz would flip as, but at this point I'd say "Dp is telling the truth" is more likely than "Dp is nextleveling us all and playing 4D Chess while we're all playing checkers"
I'll bump you back up to a moderate townlean.
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