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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-39355505

    Reports are sketchy but it seems a guy drove across Tower Bridge "mowing down pedestrians" before dashing through the gates to the Palace of Westminster and stabbing a Police Officer. Then he was shot by another Police Officer shortly thereafter.

    Ministers and MPs evacuated, apparently they've put the Lords in a Panic room in the basement, no other news as yet.
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    Just heard now myself
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    1 dead several in critical condition. Met are assuming terrorism.
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    My condolences to the victims and their families. These mad men are not off short supply.
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    2-1 home grown Muslim
    5-1 foreign muslim
    10-1 disgruntled pro brexiter
    25-1 leftist upset about brexit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    2-1 home grown Muslim
    5-1 foreign muslim
    10-1 disgruntled pro brexiter
    25-1 leftist upset about brexit
    You forgot the disgruntled Irish Nationalist out for blood now that Martin McGuiness has died.

    With him using his car as a battering ram the likelihood is casualties will rise.

    And to what purpose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    You forgot the disgruntled Irish Nationalist out for blood now that Martin McGuiness has died.

    With him using his car as a battering ram the likelihood is casualties will rise.

    And to what purpose?
    Pain.
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    Better get used to this
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    A Scot wanting a second referendum?

    A Liverpool fan coming to terms that it's been 27 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Met are assuming terrorism.
    Smart Met.

    "A car won't start. Met are assuming malfunction."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Pain.
    Well, I'm just angry, and tired.

    Tired of not just going to war properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    Tired of not just going to war properly.
    Huh?
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    This was on the first anniversary of the Brussels attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    2-1 home grown Muslim
    5-1 foreign muslim
    10-1 disgruntled pro brexiter
    25-1 leftist upset about brexit
    The pictures purported to be the attacker were reported to be 'brown with Islamic beard'. So it looks like option 1 or 2.
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    Three of the wounded were teenagers from Concarneau. My hometown in Brittany. Crap.

    Stiff upper lip hard to be kept now... Frag must be right: better get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    The pictures purported to be the attacker were reported to be 'brown with Islamic beard'. So it looks like option 1 or 2.
    That or a very tanned scot.
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    Abu Izzadeem. British carribean, natural born as trevor brooks, converted to islam 18 years old. Spokesman, fundraiser and inciter for terrorist organisations. Previous convict spent 3 years in jail 2008 to 11. Arrested in hungary for defying court order to report travel plans.

    Shot dead in Westminster.
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    Being better than the worst does not inherently make you good. But being better than the rest lets you brag.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    The pictures purported to be the attacker were reported to be 'brown with Islamic beard'. So it looks like option 1 or 2.
    So, it's really option 5 - a crazy Brit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    So, it's really option 5 - a crazy Brit.
    No tautologies, this is a serious topic. This was obviously aimed at turning Britain into a dictatorship/khanate according to the topic title.
    Just very sad for those who died, as always.


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    Death toll is at five and there has been a stabbing at Kennington, unknown if related.
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    Five casualties, worst terrorist ever how hard can it be. RIP victims
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    First, my condolences if anyone knew the victims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Abu Izzadeem. British carribean, natural born as trevor brooks, converted to islam 18 years old. Spokesman, fundraiser and inciter for terrorist organisations. Previous convict spent 3 years in jail 2008 to 11. Arrested in hungary for defying court order to report travel plans.

    Shot dead in Westminster.
    My paper says Izzadeem is not the man, as he is still in prison. The perpetrator is still unknown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Five casualties, worst terrorist ever how hard can it be. RIP victims
    Four killed (not including the terrorist). Numerous injured, some "catastrophic".

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    First, my condolences if anyone knew the victims.


    My paper says Izzadeem is not the man, as he is still in prison. The perpetrator is still unknown?
    No names officially given, but a house in Birmingham raided, where the man lived.

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    After attacks in Germany, France and Belgium it was only a question of time for the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    After attacks in Germany, France and Belgium it was only a question of time for the UK.
    After an attack in the UK, it was only question of time for the UK. We're producing them ourselves. The perpetrator, from what's been released, was another homegrown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    After an attack in the UK, it was only question of time for the UK. We're producing them ourselves. The perpetrator, from what's been released, was another homegrown.
    Instead of letting them go off to their perceived homeland where with any luck they'll get killed we prevent them leaving which increases the risk of attacks here.

    Immigration is fine when coupled with integration. But there does need to be this expectation.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    No tautologies, this is a serious topic. This was obviously aimed at turning Britain into a dictatorship/khanate according to the topic title.
    Just very sad for those who died, as always.
    I am old enough to remember the concrete barriers around Westminster Palace, outside Downing Street etc. By attacking the centre of government they are trying to shut our democracy off from ordinary people, trying to get us to lock off Westminster, keep people out of the public galleries...

    So, you see, this is an attack on our democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    Tired of not just going to war properly.
    I know @Kagemusha highlighted this earlier, but is it possible to give clarification on what you mean by this statement, @Philippus Flavius Homovallumus ?

    Just so it is clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Instead of letting them go off to their perceived homeland where with any luck they'll get killed we prevent them leaving which increases the risk of attacks here.

    Immigration is fine when coupled with integration. But there does need to be this expectation.

    I still think we should formally recognise IS and strip UK citizenship from those who go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    I still think we should formally recognise IS and strip UK citizenship from those who go there.
    In an ideal world, I agree. Having SIS monitor their role in ISIS is probably sufficient.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Khalid Masood was known to police but not subject of surveillance

    Masood, 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands. Masood was also known by a number of aliases, police said in a statement.

    Scotland Yard said Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack.

    However, he was known to police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.

    His first conviction was in November 1983 for criminal damage and his last conviction was in December 2003 for possession of a knife.

    He had not been convicted for any terrorism offences.

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