like I just don't really buy this train of thoughtI threw more content for him to latch onto and try to spin into a case, he ignored it because mafia don't need to make a big case on D1.
on d1, GH didn't respond to that post, so several days later you're still really concerned with how it makes him a wolf? If he's a wolf just trying to bury khaan why not acknowledge any bone you might have thrown him and add it to his case?
And as a wolf he is perfectly willing to expend a lot of effort digging into past games, in any case.
Recall that GH's specific - and sufficient - case against Khaan was that Khaan said he doesn't like getting lynched for RPing so he doesn't do it. GH found this suspicious because Khaan hadn't been lynched for RPing in the past year, as though that meant something.
Why wouldn't GH want to have a more comprehensive case, comparing Khaan to other games? I gave him Khaan content to run with to see how he would react, and a town GH should at least have made something out of it.
If I'm making a big deal, it's because I keep getting asked about it.
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Scum doesn't need to make an effort D1, indeed it's better for them not to make a really big commitment.
It's not just his lack of a response to my post, but his lack of any expansion to the case - he rested on the line he came out with, only moving to clarify or emphasize it to people questioning him.
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1. but gh directly lead the d1 lynch... and brought a lot of attention to himself with the raith vote...
2. what?
Your reasoning is not internally consistent. GH is a wolf because scum don't want to be the center of attention or drive events, when he's done both of those. GH is a wolf for not sufficiently looking into khaan's past games, when you haven't bothered to look at GH's past games.
Would Monsieur de Montmorency be so kind as to inform me of his reasons to equate my standing to that of a common foot soldier who cannot even spell his name correctly?
I am sorry, my good chum, but I do think that there is an inconsistence between your classifying BSmith as ‘null’ and voting him for the lynch whilst all the
The Fish Finger of Suspicion is pointed at you, Autolycus.
You are doing nothing to allay my suspicions of you, Jabbz.
It was a test of character. There was a significant possibility that Manasi would be saved, as stated by our good friend the Game Master. I do hope that somebody would have employed a tracking or watching ability to clear one more Innocent, but it is not unlikely that they did not.
Do tell us more. It might not be relate to the game at hand but I am always interested in tongues.
That is a distinct possibility. Notice that I am not voting for Manasi after her reaction to the lynching.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
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@GeneralHankerchief
you've been active in the forum all day. are you just idling on your phone or what?
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
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You're distorting my statements.
He didn't make himself the center of events. Novice and Viper, and maybe one or two others, did. GH made a quick case, then stood his ground. The Raith vote was D2. I'm talking about D1 events.
I'm not blaming him for broadly not investigating other Khaan games, but for not taking opportunities to use content from other Khaan games. If GH says the content of another game makes his current play look townier, I will look at it. Until then, seeing as I haven't made a case specifically on the basis of past games' events, I don't have an obligation to.
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why does the d2 distinction matter? If me/choxorn is a villager (which I am and you don't seem to dispute), and GH is a wolf, then his vote was purely to bring attention to himself with no real gain. A direct contradiction of what you are saying scum do. Doesn't matter if it was Day 2 instead of Day 1.
If I quote a random post GH made in another game, and you don't look into it further, will you vote yourself since that makes you scum? I'm giving you an opportunity to expand the case!
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
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@El Barto
I was born in America but both of my parents moved from India to finish college, so from birth they both spoke Tamil to me. I didn't know English until I was around 3.
Again, you think wolf Barto puts himself into the center of attention like that when he didn't need to at all?
You're starting with this assertion that mafia don't put themselves in the center of attention if they can avoid it, yet your only two scum leans in the whole game both put themselves in the center of attention when they did not need to, for seemingly little gain (as wolves). If your response to this is to say "well it's not d1," I don't buy that because what's the difference? Still early game if you want to frame it that way.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
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So Monty, upon seeing GH make a case against Seireikhaan and noticing yourself a possible scum tell on Seireikhaan, you decide that this scum tell should be used for trapping scum GH, based on the questionable assumption that only townies would add said scum tell to their case?
It sounds incredibly contrived. Why not just join GH on the Khaan wagon and evaluate GH after seeing Khaan's flip?
1. D1 and D2 are categorically-different stages in a game. In addition, the environments of D1 and D2 in practice for this game are different. I don't accept your bizarre implication that GH's actions shouldn't be affected by the thread history or activity.
2. Unlikely, since it's just a random quote that probably has no relevance to the present.
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good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
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For the Raith vote, I did in fact mention that it's a slightly-townward factor. A scum GH could have been using it to his advantage. It's not clearing.
Barto in particular likes to take the center of attention with panache, especially as scum.
Why would I join him on Khaan? You mean, to develop a case over several days? I don't have that patience.
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What specifically makes the d2 environment different from d1?
I disagree about Barto. When we were scum teammates in Pizza's recent game, he just lurked and did nothing. It was pretty much the exact opposite of being the center of attention.
It also bothers me how you just call everyone neutral. Add on to that your barto and gh reads, and it feels like you don't really care that much about finding wolves. Your only scum leans are contrived for reasons I've pointed out (they did ONE THING you DID NOT LIKE so you won't let it go and you'll stay in that tunnel while they live), and you don't even bother to try giving a read on most of the game.
D1: Sooh, Novice, and Viper dominate the first half discussing meta and stuff. In the second half, GH creates the Khaan wagon, while Choxorn and I say some things that people don't like and become wagons.
D2: Chox is again a target, but the first half of the day is dominated by Barto and Manasi and the poisoning issue, as well as discussion over block claims. Barto issue fades for resolution overnight. GH is still low-key. Wants Choxorn, auto, and Barto lynched. GH deploys a customary chaos-dunk on Raith at the very end that could make himself look better in the long-run, even if it may piss a few people off for D3.
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Is it wrong to village read novice for doing the post counts?
BSmith's posts, if anybody's interested.
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I've just collected the posts, my only takeaway so far is that BSmith is unlikely to be paired with Monty, seeing how BSmith's random vote almost got Monty lynched.
Apart from that... His votes seem very "uncontroversial", which is a red flag in principle, but understandable for someone short on time.
I'll just village read him
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