Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

might as well vote:Montmorency because his name's longer

not that there's any point in voting because pizza would rather the win be fair and square for the winning team whoever it is from his pov

If I'm wrong, and it goes to a coin flip, then the hundreds of hours people invested into this game total will have all been wasted on the cruelty of a coin, and the stubbornness of one guy who would then apparently only ever be satisfied if the game ended how he wanted it to.

All of that effort to win stopped by one townie, is a bad situation. There's a townie inside the lovers and they should have been able to figure it out by now. And they have info I don't.

If I'm just good at this then that would be a welcome surprise. I had fun in XCOM despite losing.

If I'm just bad then there's the following people who would really appreciate it if I didn't up the whole game for them:

Csargo
Dp101
Fredwood
El Barto
Montmorency
Manasi
Slaan
Reinoe
Choxorn
Winston Hughes
Xiahou
Kagemusha

Throw my name in there too.

I'm not voting against one of my fellow townies in LYLO on purpose. This is a team game, and we sink or soar as one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

hey pizza

do you remember how much csargo was in or around thread around the chox/lovers claims?

Not offhand, but since Csargo hasn't posted excessively since then, I remember also, his repeating of monty's claim is on the first page of his iso, most recent.

[Cuthillius]

i'm legitimately more engaged by this game than i have been at any point so far

i'm actually curious about who it is and why, and want to figure out

to some extent

that's cool i guess, pity i'm drowning in exponential equations

[Askthepizzaguy]

i'm legitimately more engaged by this game than i have been at any point so far

i'm actually curious about who it is and why, and want to figure out

to some extent

that's cool i guess, pity i'm drowning in exponential equations

Shouldn't matter. Pretend it's Csargo but you voted Monty.

If Monty agreed with my idea that it's inside the lovers, he could self-vote and lynch Csargo that way if he were so inclined.

That would be a spectacle to see.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Montmorency

Since I see you're around.

What are the chances you are changing your mind or even re-reading from this point onward?

Is it more than zero percent?

[Montmorency]

that would work if that's...

at all how the kills happened

instead, they were making mechanically inferior choices pretty much night after night, even accounting for doc stuff imo, up through last night with the dp kill

in theory, pizza should have died sooner, choxorn should have died sooner iirc, the lovers, if they were town, would/should always be dead by this point, and, if both lovers are town (assuming pizza is town as well), i don't think that dp would ever in a thousand years be killed over at least one of the two

No one knew we were lovers until D5. Choxorn died N5. I explained that in a generic game it makes more sense to keep lovers around as scum, especially if there are other major targets.

Choxorn claimed D4. Fred died N4. Could have been doctor avoidance. Same could apply to Pizza being alive.

DP died last night. Pizza and DP both claimed to want to lynch Csargo, then Cuth. Scum-Cuth doesn't kill lovers last night. Scum-Pizza doesn't need to kill lovers last night. Scum-DP doesn't need to kill lovers last night.

he just had so much less going for him

so why then

maybe i did it, eh?

because the dead people were suspecting me, yeah?

and then i can just bring a bunch of ~clear villagers to f3 and paranoia them into lynching each other

well

here's the thing

the dead people weren't particularly suspecting me, none of them know my game particularly well nor are huge threats to me compared to the people alive

Kage wanted you dead D3. He died N3. Fred suspected you most of anyone publicly D-N4.

@Montmorency

Since I see you're around.

What are the chances you are changing your mind or even re-reading from this point onward?

Is it more than zero percent?

Cuth's kill analysis was pretty wrong. It doesn't inspire me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Cuth's kill analysis was pretty wrong. It doesn't inspire me.

Is it zero percent though?

Am I actually wasting my time in waiting here?

[Askthepizzaguy]

The reason why I asked is because you analyzed Csargo and found wolfy stuff.

For it to be zero percent here, it would be a significant change.

[Montmorency]

Is it zero percent though?

Am I actually wasting my time in waiting here?

I don't know. Probably. If you intend to write thousands of words, definitely.

Let Csargo and Cuth have their say, and we'll talk about that instead of rehashing your already-extensive contributions.

The reason why I asked is because you analyzed Csargo and found wolfy stuff.

For it to be zero percent here, it would be a significant change.

I only have 100% chance of having one vote. I'm not in blue sky mode.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think people have already said what they wanted to say.

[Cuthillius]

i'm honestly at a loss of what to actually say

like

i'm happy to speak my piece, and i'd make time to do so, if there was any chance of it making a difference and us winning

but

everything straightforward's been talked over a million times

[Montmorency]

I don't disagree.

[Cuthillius]

I don't disagree.

then what is it i can say

that might sway you

is there anything i can explain better or talk through or whatever

because otherwise boom game over

and not in a sense of oh we lose, though there's that, but

hey we're basically locked into this thing of lynching me and no point in debating/talking

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know what, it's okay.

Despite what I said earlier, my heart will always be heavy about this game. I can't relax. That was my advice to Monty only.

I've been able to town read Dp, Fredwood, Monty, reinoe, Choxorn, Winston Hughes, and Kagemusha. If Cuth is a townie, here I am at lylo reading him townie too. I shot and lynched 3 wolves and lynched 2 townies. I cold read Logic scum and helped with the GH pressure, stopped counterplay there, and shot Zack who I feel could have gotten away, because people thought only one of them could be scum, even after GH flipped.

If it's Csargo, I tried to lynch him with Xiahou over Barto, and I didn't even have Barto as lock town. I called him scummy for most of day 1. I pushed him hard as hell at Lylo.

If it's Monty, no one really wolf read him and he poured his heart into the game and I have no shame in losing to him.

If it's Cuth, I'm turning what should have been a good game on my part into a disaster. I can live with Manasi on my conscience, as bad as that lynch was, I feel absolutely horrible about Slaan. Not lynching Cuth at lylo if he's a wolf here would ruin a lot of people's games.

The game outcome matters to me, but only to a certain extent.

It is still stressing me the out and I can't sleep. Even churns my stomach a little. A game shouldn't be affecting me or anyone else this badly.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I've decided that I've bled enough for this town.

There is a futility in continuing, and Monty deserves his win, if he's earned one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Monty

Tell me if you want me to continue waiting, or if you are all done with this game.

I need an order, nothing wishy washy.

[Cuthillius]

i mean

i'd argue that i never do the dp kill because

not only is he not less lick lockety town than pizza

but he's also somewhat prone to spooking under stress, moreso than pizza, and is less reliably going to read through everything again and come to a firm solution, likely on myself, especially if town!csargo (or monty, i guess) were to be like hur ok i suppose me gonna actually post and pour soul into this so pizza knows i'm town because he good clear me town as meta stuff by

and could much more easily be persuaded to at least tie vote, probably, given what he was saying before his demise

like

this only makes sense from my side if i'm sitting here making kills for MAXIMUM WIFOM LOL

which

well

would be stupid

but regardless

[Cuthillius]

also for what it's worth

i was never really in favor of the slaan lynch

that said we were just lynching through villagery poe so /shrug

[Askthepizzaguy]

Cuth, are you also done with this game? Or do you want me to wait.

[Montmorency]

i mean

i'd argue that i never do the dp kill because

not only is he not less lick lockety town than pizza

but he's also somewhat prone to spooking under stress, moreso than pizza, and is less reliably going to read through everything again and come to a firm solution, likely on myself, especially if town!csargo (or monty, i guess) were to be like hur ok i suppose me gonna actually post and pour soul into this so pizza knows i'm town because he good clear me town as meta stuff by

and could much more easily be persuaded to at least tie vote, probably, given what he was saying before his demise

like

this only makes sense from my side if i'm sitting here making kills for MAXIMUM WIFOM LOL

which

well

would be stupid

but regardless

DP was a tiebreaker. He would have come in demanding a tie.

And I would have said, where were you D1? :S

Monty

Tell me if you want me to continue waiting, or if you are all done with this game.

I need an order, nothing wishy washy.

I want to see the outcome.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You two people are the only townies I have left.

You have to tell me if it's time for town to resign.

[Cuthillius]

DP was a tiebreaker. He would have come in demanding a tie.

And I would have said, where were you D1? :S



I want to see the outcome.

and if i were a wolf, i would far rather have a tie than a ~confirmed 2-1 vote

[Cuthillius]

You two people are the only townies I have left.

You have to tell me if it's time for town to resign.

it's not

it's time for us to vote chox :/

[Montmorency]

and if i were a wolf, i would far rather have a tie than a ~confirmed 2-1 vote

That's what I was saying to Pizza yesterday!

[Askthepizzaguy]

it's not

it's time for us to vote chox :/

Chox?

[Cuthillius]

Chox?

sure

[Cuthillius]

and yes, i know, and i give zero flying pelicans who i'm voting right now

as long as it's achieving the same purpose

like

i'd also be okay with everyone voting no lynch because that'd at least make me feel better because then we torture the graveyard before coming to the exact same resolution

[Cuthillius]

That's what I was saying to Pizza yesterday!

what's your point

[Askthepizzaguy]

Cuth's 2607 and Monty's desire to see the flip both tell me that it's time to end the game.

Good game to the winners, I need a break from this thread for a while no matter what Cuth flips as. If he's scum, feel free to laugh at me.

Killing wolves early and then not dying compelled me to see things through and I couldn't shut it off, at all. And it's just a gross feeling.

I won't be around after this vote. It's 5am and I can't be groaning over this decision while I'm trying to learn Norwegian in a few hours.

Closing my eyes and voting, and closing this thread.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Cuthillius

Computer even recommends resigns.