Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. Some women (like Oprah) openly admit what happened to them. Others choose to wait for an indefinite time and then start voicing their indignation and other negative emotions. I totally support the first option and I hold the second one under suspicion since I don't believe emotions could linger that long, that is why the latter option seems insincere to me. It sounds more like a desire to join the trend - ice bucket challenge or "who was filthier harrassed" challenge, in this case. I wouldn't much sympathize with a person who having had indigestion after a meal in a restaurant remembers it 10 years later and starts denouncing its staff.
The question is why does it bother you if they're only pushing in other people's homes?
Is it what they're pushing for and how would that bother you?
And just because you read sites that collect these things from all over the place, doesn't mean other people watch all of it, too.
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"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Cause-starved activists with greasy fingers bother me, this latest hype is articially created and carefully nourished
If you're referring to this story, the UK government denies that it requested the use of "pregnant person" by the UN. This isn't a UK issue as such, but a stance that some medical organizations in multiple countries have adopted in the past few years.
You should realize that trans issues are much more controversial among feminists than you let on. It's not new; this has been discussed since at least the 1990s. But in my opinion the simplest compromise is "pregnant women and others"; "expectant mother" is also worth retaining since it actually bypasses the concern of gender-prescription here.
Whatever you personally think, it shouldn't be surprising that the issue would have to come up in the conversation about how to integrate "trans" into society. If you refuse to stop and think, you will constantly be shocked by everything you come across. And that's a personal problem, not anybody else's.Inclusion has become the ultimate liberal fetish. Unfortunately, the uncritical expansion of categories to protect feelings is less inclusion than dilution. “All Lives Matter” is, after all, a demand for inclusion, specifically the inclusion of white trauma into the narrative of black resistance. The classic line used by men’s rights activists – “Sometimes men get beat up by women too!” – is a demand that efforts against domestic violence be “inclusive” as well. But none of these discussions are improved in the least solely by making language less precise.
Here's the thing: none of these ideas or debates come out of nowhere. Here, the general impetus is the question, 'How do we accommodate trans people in society?" That question will have a lot of threads, because society is a big thing. If you can at least contextualize the questions behind your various outrages, they might at least not get you helplessly worked up.
In English you say "my spouse", "my partner", or "my SO (significant other)."Originally Posted by Fragony
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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There was this one too:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/21/strang...sault-7016288/
Unfortunately, where there is power, there are people who take advantage of their position to abuse others. Even the current USA President with Pussy-gate.
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Ja mata, TosaInu
Hanoi Jane and renowned hater of men Gloria Steinem speak out:
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/jan...ms-1202600709/
Keeping in touch with decades of speaking out "too soon", they're probably right...again
Ja-mata TosaInu
That must be why there wasnt this much fuss those times those child actors started complaining about paedophiles in hollywood.Actress Jane Fonda and activist Gloria Steinem stopped by MSNBC’s “All In With Chris Hayes” Wednesday night to discuss the Harvey Weinstein scandal, where Fonda pointed out that part of the reason Weinstein’s accusers are getting so much attention is because they’re “famous and white” — with the exception of Lupita Nyong’o.
“It feels like something has shifted,” Fonda told Hayes. “It’s too bad that it’s probably because so many of the women that were assaulted by Harvey Weinstein are famous and white and everybody knows them. This has been going on a long time to black women and other women of color and it doesn’t get out quite the same.”
Macaulay Culkin, Elijah Wood, Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Joey Coleman, Mara Wilson, Samantha Geimer, Jessica Biel, Michael Egan, Evan Henzi, Alison Arngrim, Dylan Farrow and Mia Farrow, yeah, they didnt get this attention because they werent famous or white!
Fonda deserves the bile our moderaters fear.
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Here in France the hashtag "metoo" was quite roughly translated "balancetonporc". We don't like understatements. It was brewing for months anyway.
The dictionnaries told me: "rat on your pig" or "chuck out your pig". Roughly, so to say. Always nice to learn some new english words.
Beeing France, no need to say that it's almost a bloodbath. Pity beeing that I still know quite a lot of ladies who would never chuck out their pig(s), and the pigs still roam unchecked.
Having been a trade union representative for years, I heard a basketfull of confessions from disoriented women with their lives made awfull by male superiors. I came to hate the way women so easily talk to me and beg me to shut the hell up, also.
One year ago I got a new errrh... captain, 24 years young and attractive cuttie, fresh out of school. I told her a few names: the radioactive ones. Men she should never trust because I know very well they are very very talented snakes. And that she shall tell her two 24 years, etc etc classmates on other teams to do so. Have I been right doing that?
Frag, I don't think feminism is out of control when a proven feminist as I am still hesitates.
Debates on grammar and spelling are minor nuisance. Drunk students overacting gender annihilation are just drunk students. Smokescreens, nothing to write home about for an heterosexual white european male.
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"Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"
Kentoc'h Mervel Eget Bezañ Saotret - Death feels better than stain, motto of the Breton People. Emgann!
Yeah you have been right doing that, predators do exist.
As for not worrying, I am not worried I am annoyed. Ironically it are fake-feminists and SJW-types who like to see society devided and they are too self-rightious to see the hypocracy. Everything is too male, everything is too white. I wouldn't want to live in their utopia, they see sexism and facism/racism everywhere but don'tvrecognise it when looking in the mirror.
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Now is it...
*purrs like a kitten*
Well then, I have a week off...
Can you then, throughout history, explain how any sane individual would put mere women (as a group) side to side to our outstanding men?
["women are dumb"]
In all honesty, Cleopatra is one of very few women who actually accomplished things, and let's remember she made it by being all "Lova ya long time". She also killed herself.
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owwwww don't do that, I can say no other thing other than saying that there is nothjng wrong with the intelligence of women and that they are indeed hold back by society as real! feminists claim
I haven't said there's anything wrong with female intelligence..
My point is that there is no RIGHT-with it, that men can't do better, and already have since history started.
Us white men have tried to really listen to the female perspective lately.
Result: Women didn't have much to say ["women are dumb"]
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fair enough
It's absolutely not fair.
As a side-toss the European white women gave the white men an absolute load of Africans and Islamic people to deal with.
Not just bad gene-stock, bad religion with it.
"Fair enough" - for what, so absolutely WHAT - would that be a redeemed factor?
For us having their say of the matter as the first actual men of the world?
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No such thing as 'us' Kads
Someday soon the white man shall cede the solemn duty of raping the out of his women to the subhuman mud creatures, who he is oddly certain don't have superior genes.
Those stupid, stupid, women who are much worse than men at everything cool and who don't have a clue just how good they have it here by our side (though they should definitely have it less good).
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I didn't know Trump's rhetoric level was so common in Sweden.
The things Sweden invented and was overlooked for, fascinating.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
If you read my post carefully you couldn't have missed the words "in my experience". I teach University students and due to the type of my department about 90% of them are female. The scarce male ones are 80-90% dumb (to use your terminology) while among females the percentage of dumbness is about 50-60.
As for history, I guess it is unfair to compare the achievements of sexes since women (as a group, not considering singular outstanding individuals) are "out for achievement" for a much shorter span. It is like comparing Brazilian and USAnian (to use your terminology) national football teams.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
In the UK, White Males are a minority in University due to under performing academically and other key factors.
https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...-thinktank-men
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...niversity.html
https://www.offa.org.uk/universities...tish-students/
Seems to be a trend in the USA too...
https://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...nority/536103/
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Here's a look at the Wests grand experiment since the end of WW2.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...orkplaces.html
Should we just admit that "men in the workplace" was just a bad idea?
Or is it perhaps, simply the reaction of all apes given power and authority?
Ja-mata TosaInu
Remember the days when a woman's place was in the kitchen?
I don't.
Feminism in control.
Placental mammals mean one parent has to carry the offspring. The greater the burden between the genders, the greater the difference. Our babies have proportionally massive heads and come out under-developed. This again means that the lactating parent has to spend more time nurturing.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
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If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
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