Video and Graphics Card related

[Erado San]

Yes, some ideas, but to know which one to advise I need info:

1 - amount of RAM
2 - Video Card
3 - current driver version

[Trevry]

Hi, thks for reply
I have a Diamond Stealth III s540 with the latest drivers installed last week from their site. Its a 32mb card.
Im running a p3 650 with 128 ram.

[hach]

hi

ifind i prefer the speed of the old v1.1 patch'but with the campaign mods of v1.12.
can creative make a patch without the graphic mods or does anyone know how i can remove the
graphic mods from the patch.

thanx

i just find i get slowdown i never had before

cheers hach

[Erado San]

No Hach, the patch without Graphics improvements is not available and probably won't be.

I think you'll have to try and tune your pc. I suggest tuning the AGP aperture size. Article on my site.

[smeegol]

The new Detonator 3 drivers for NVIDIA do not work with Shogun: Total War. I have the exact same problem and I am still working on solving it. Good luck
And oh yea if you figure out how to get it working PLEASE tell me hehe

[smeegol]

Okay I have a solution to the problem. I'm not sure if it will work for you (I have RIVA TNT2 and you have the Ge FOrece 2 GTS) but go to http://www.boy-co.demon.nl/ and than on the left side of the screen find 'Detonator 2' if it goes along with your card download and install it (installs just like a game does... very easy) and than it worked for me. Good luck

[hach]

hi

is it possible for me to rip the graphics mod from patches 1.11 and 1.12.
i like them'but i think the system suffers slowdown because of it.

i want the original graphics with the gameplay of 1.1

if it's not the graphics that are slowing my game down what is??

i never had this on 1.1

thanx hach

[Keleko]

Going to Detonator 2 drivers is not an option for me. I have a GeForce 2 Ultra. It is their latest card, and I doubt the older drivers will support the newer card. I'm not about to try it. I sure hope the 1.13 patch fixes the problems with the newer nVidia drivers. Otherwise there are going to be a lot of people that won't be playing it anymore.

[capman]

And yet another puzzle. Feedback is much appreciated. As long as you don't tell me that I shouldn't be using Win2K for STW ;-)

I'm not even sure it is a Win2K issue when reading some previous posts.

Anyway I'm using
DirectX 8.0 and Win2K
Creative Geforce2 GTS
Asus AV7 with the VIA KT133 chipset
Athlon 800 MHz and 256 MByte RAM

With the native Creative driver I get lockups and small texture problems like square trees and black rain.

With the nVidia drivers detonator3 7.17 I get false colors everywhere.

Should I go back to DirectX 7.0? Try some other drivers? AGP aperture size?

Cheers
Capman

[BayushiHideo]

I had posted on other forums a problem I was having with Shogun and ATI's Radeon card. When I tried running the game in Primary Display Mode, the screens were distorted and the mouse cursor left trails. The problem would correct itself in software rendering mode.

I checked ATI's webpage to see if this was a known issue, and nothing was listed for Shogun, but the same problem was listed Homeworld. The fix was to go into the display adapter's advanced settings, click on the tab for Direct 3D, and disable full screen anti aliasing. I tried this, and, sure enough, it fixes the problem in Shogun as well.

[Erado San]

Det 2 5.22 and det 3 6.18 and 7.17 all support GeForce 2 and work with Shogun. But I also suggest you check your AGP Aperture setting. Info on my site. Go to Site Guide and find the article on AGP aperture.

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[Erado San]

Someone just reported solving this by disabling the full screen anti aliasing option in the drivers.

[Erado San]

Thanks for posting both the problem and the solution. This might help more people.

[TooCool]

I don't know if this can help but i have 7.17 driver installed and Shogun runs without problems. I have a GeForce DDR with win98 and Dx7. Does everyone have problems with the 7.17 driver? Maybe it's because of the FSAA function?

[Keleko]

I loaded the 6.18 drivers and it works. I've not heard of or seen a 7.17 driver version. Where can I get those?

[Erado San]

The 7.17 drivers are available at www.pczone.co.uk

You will have to search under 'drivers'.

[capman]

Thanks Erado San
Although I'm not sure that helped.

Some recent insights
Running STW with AGP2x gets rid of the lockups. Used 4x before.

Using nVidia 7.17 drivers

In Battlemode I still get false colors, crappy textures.

My settings are
- no antialiasing
- no fog table
- no adjusting of Z-Buffer
- no enabling of alternate depth buffering technique
- mipmapping to best performance
- PCI Texture Size is 31 MByte
- no enabling of 8 bit textures in the game itself
- texel alignment is value 3

Any suggestions on these?

Using DirectX 8 does not help. STW does not use any of the new functionality.

Cheers

Capman

[Keleko]

Yeah, I found them not long after I posted the query. I had some problems getting them to install, but once I got them working the game works fine with them. So why aren't these drivers available from nvidia?

[Kurando]

hach, I'm moving this to the Editing / Mods / Patches forum + I'll keep it open here too.

[smallelm]

I've been dicking with my favourite game and my annihilator ultra 2 all day and the fact is thAT STW will not run on geforce ultra 2 cards with the new nvidia 631 drivers (det. 3) or the creative 634 drivers. Works fine with the 532 drivers (det. 2) if you want to go through the hassles.......

[FearofFucy]

I have the Hercules Prophet 2 Ultra Card. Have the same problems as the other guys in the forum. My game will not start. Downloaded the newest driver for the Ultra card, but nothing. Was reading in the forum something about a driver 7.17. Will that driver work with the Ultra card??? PLZ some 1 help me. This is my favorite game and would like to play it as soon as possible. (lol).

[smallelm]

I have creative ultra 2 and the 7.17 drivers do work, but the graphics were choppy and I reinstalled three times, no change and gave up in frustration, STW worked excellently with my ati rage 128 32mb. game will not work with any official drivers from creative or nvidia!!

[FearofFucy]

Thx
Solved the problem. Its working again.

[Erado San]

SmallElm, that's not true, because many are playing the game with a GTS2 Ultra.

I bet it's the driver version causing the problems.

Fear, how did you solve the problem?

[Erado San]

Yes, that's right.

The 6.31 are not working. in the 6 series the 6.18 are stable.

[Kurando]

It seems that 3dfx has been bought out by Nvidia. You can read about the details here.

[theforce]

I would like to change my 3D card. i have a Voodoo3 2000 AGP and l want a better card.
Which card to buy?
Anyone who has a good new card plz tell me.
I don't want to feel poor after buying this, too lol

[Erado San]

Well, one you should not overlook, even though it is not the latest technology, is the GeForce 256 DDR. This card is damn good. The GeForce 2 is better, but does not offer a major leap ahead, especially if you look at the price.

Another fine aspect is, that if you look around well, these cards sometimes go for pretty decent prices.

[theforce]

Thanks for the help Erado.

[Tatsumaru Rokkaku]

where do you go for the DIRECT 3D options?