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    Folks,

    just thought to let you know about a guide that I wrote last year for adding a new faction to VI.
    Adding_new_faction_guide.pdf
    Cheers
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    Last edited by barocca; 06-28-2005 at 07:50.
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    this guide is awesome

    i got everything working in my new faction except two things

    the loyalty shields are massive


    and my kings name is "King Ethanromannumeral#####blahblahblah"




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    Looks like either you setshieldimage line is wrong or you copied the large shield into the small shield file....or you guys are extra super loyal :)

    Check the SetShieldImage line. The first entry should be your faction label FN_FREE21. Next entry should be the name of the bif file containing your large shield like "Irish_lge". The next one is the small shield like "Irish_sml". Ensure this entry is correctly set to the bif file containing your small shield.
    Basically re-check section 3.2.10 Faction Shields again in my guide.

    Looks like your SetStartLeader is not quite right. It's quite tricky to explain this section clearly....it's more trial and error. Re-check section 3.2.14.

    If still no luck then try:-

    SetStartLeader:: FN_FREE21 0 0

    Means your first king will be King Ethan I rather than II or whatever.

    Cheers
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    ah yes i had "Picts_lge" in there twice

    but i still cant fix this King Ethanromannumeral###1-thing

    ill just keep messing with different numbers in there

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    yayuh i got it

    i used

    SetStartLeader:: FN_FREE21 0 3 1 1 1

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    Is there a way to make a faction elect a new leder like the pope. Im working on a Mod that im going to send out soon. I want my teutonic faction to elect a new leder and not get heirs. I don't want the teutonics to excom. the other factions.
    In the early.txt, theres the faction behaviour line, but dont knows if thats will do it.

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    trying to do some simple modifications and ran into some issues..

    followed the instructions as best i could and swear i didnt miss anything but..

    on about stage ten were im just starting to name my faction and such and nothing is showing up properly.

    my custom game ...NAMED "custom game" shows up in the era menue as "( custom game ) could not translate"

    and my irish faction does not show up in the list of factions.

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    ok..got the name of my game working..my faction still isnt showing up on the list however.

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    VikingHorde

    The faction behaviour section tells the AI how each faction behaves when playing the AI. It hasn't got anything to do with sucession. I believe the part of successions being elected are hard-coded as I've not heard of any way to mod that....unless someone else knows better.

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    DeWinter,

    What section of the guide are you at ? You said stage ten, does that mean section 3.2.10 as that is quite far in the guide but your problem is quite early. By following sections 3.2 and 3.2.1, it should solve your problem. I suspect you simply made a small typo and suggest you re-check everything again. The format in the Default_faction_specific.txt is critical and must be followed exactly.

    Cheers
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    Starkhorn, I dl your guide and just wanted to thank you for it.

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    I allso like the guide. It gave me to know-how to make the mod that im working on. It's greate that you tok the time to make it.

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    Your more than welcome.

    Cheers
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    looking threw defualt_faction_spasific everything looks fine..but there might be something im missing.

    question..when declaring your faction is upper/lowercase an issue?


    here is a copy of default_etcc ..hope its not to large








    //*********************************************************************
    //
    // The campaigns 'faction specific' and 'rebel' text strings:-
    //
    // This is the default file used for arrays of faction names and arrays
    // of text containing the full set of faction names in order.
    //
    // Rebel faction names also need to be placed in this file..
    //
    //*********************************************************************

    //faction leader names
    @["faction_leaders_xzy"]
    @{"The Rebel Leader"}
    @{"The Almohad Khalifah"}
    @{"The Byzantine Emperor"}
    @{"The King of the Danes"}
    @{"The Egyptian Sultan"}
    @{"The King of England"}
    @{"The King of France"}
    @{"The Holy Roman Emperor"}
    @{"The Italian Doge"}
    @{"The King of Poland"}
    @{"The Russian Grand Prince"}
    @{"The Spanish King"}
    @{"The Turkish Sultan"}
    @{"The King of Aragon"}
    @{"The Duke of Burgundy"}
    @{"The Khan of the Golden Horde"}
    @{"The King of Hungary"}
    @{"The Prince of Novgorod"}
    @{"The Pope"}
    @{"The King of Sicily"}
    @{"The Swiss Leader"}
    @{"The King of Ireland"}

    // This array dictates how the faction corresponding to the position in the

    list would address their leader.
    // eg. If your first faction was the English then you would want "King" at

    position 1, not at position 0 as this is always the rebels.

    @["king_titles"] // Label
    @{"King "} // Position 0
    @{"Khalifah "} // Position 1
    @{"Emperor "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"Sultan "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"Emperor "}
    @{"Doge "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"Prince "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"Sultan "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"Duke "}
    @{"Khan "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"Prince "}
    @{"Pope "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"King "}
    @{"king "}

    @["custom_battle_menu_factions"]
    @{"Rebel"}
    @{"Almohad"}
    @{"Byzantine"}
    @{"Danish"}
    @{"Egyptian"}
    @{"English"}
    @{"French"}
    @{"German"}
    @{"Italian"}
    @{"Polish"}
    @{"Russian"}
    @{"Spanish"}
    @{"Turkish"}
    @{"Aragonese"}
    @{"Burgundian"}
    @{"Golden Horde"}
    @{"Hungarian"}
    @{"Novgorod"}
    @{"Papal"}
    @{"Sicilian"}
    @{"Swiss"}
    @{"Irish"}


    @["factions_posessive_xzy"]
    @{"Rebel"}
    @{"Almohad"}
    @{"Byzantine"}
    @{"Danish"}
    @{"Egyptian"}
    @{"English"}
    @{"French"}
    @{"German"}
    @{"Italian"}
    @{"Polish"}
    @{"Russian"}
    @{"Spanish"}
    @{"Turkish"}
    @{"Aragonese"}
    @{"Burgundian"}
    @{"Golden Horde"}
    @{"Hungarian"}
    @{"Novgorod"}
    @{"Papal"}
    @{"Sicilian"}
    @{"Swiss"}
    @{"Irish"}

    // The following is to accomodate languages requiring female forms of

    faction names for ["other_princess_tooltip1"]
    // in tooltip.txt. For languages not requiring this copy whatever you have in

    ["factions_posessive_xzy"] (names.txt),
    // but obviously leave the label as is here.

    @["female_factions_posessive_xzy"]
    @{"Rebel"}
    @{"Almohad"}
    @{"Byzantine"}
    @{"Danish"}
    @{"Egyptian"}
    @{"English"}
    @{"French"}
    @{"German"}
    @{"Italian"}
    @{"Polish"}
    @{"Russian"}
    @{"Spanish"}
    @{"Turkish"}
    @{"Aragonese"}
    @{"Burgundian"}
    @{"Golden Horde"}
    @{"Hungarian"}
    @{"Novgorod"}
    @{"Papal"}
    @{"Sicilian"}
    @{"Swiss"}
    @{"Irish"}

    @["factions_xzy"]
    @{"The Rebels"}
    @{"The Almohads"}
    @{"The Byzantines"}
    @{"The Danes"}
    @{"The Egyptians"}
    @{"The English"}
    @{"The French"}
    @{"The Germans"}
    @{"The Italians"}
    @{"The Polish"}
    @{"The Russians"}
    @{"The Spanish"}
    @{"The Turkish"}
    @{"The Aragonese"}
    @{"The Burgundians"}
    @{"The Golden Horde"}
    @{"The Hungarians"}
    @{"The People of Novgorod"}
    @{"The Papacy"}
    @{"The Sicilians"}
    @{"The Swiss"}
    @{"The Irish"}


    @["of_Clan_Names"]
    @{" of The Rebels"}
    @{" of The Almohads"}
    @{" of The Byzantines"}
    @{" of The Danes"}
    @{" of The Egyptians"}
    @{" of The English"}
    @{" of The French"}
    @{" of The Germans"}
    @{" of The Italians"}
    @{" of The Polish"}
    @{" of The Russians"}
    @{" of The Spanish"}
    @{" of The Turkish"}
    @{" of The Aragonese"}
    @{" of The Burgundians"}
    @{" of The Golden Horde"}
    @{" of The Hungarians"}
    @{" of The men of Novgorod"}
    @{" of The Papacy"}
    @{" of The Sicilians"}
    @{" of The Swiss"}
    @{" of The Irish"}

    @["factions_special_xzy"]
    @{"the Rebels"}
    @{"the Almohads"}
    @{"the Byzantines"}
    @{"the Danes"}
    @{"the Egyptians"}
    @{"the English"}
    @{"the French"}
    @{"the Germans"}
    @{"the Italians"}
    @{"the Polish"}
    @{"the Russians"}
    @{"the Spanish"}
    @{"the Turkish"}
    @{"the Aragonese"}
    @{"the Burgundians"}
    @{"the Golden Horde"}
    @{"the Hungarians"}
    @{"the People of Novgorod"}
    @{"the Papacy"}
    @{"the Sicilians"}
    @{"the Swiss"}
    @{"The Irish"}

    @["factions_special_caps_xzy"]
    @{"The Rebels"}
    @{"The Almohads"}
    @{"The Byzantines"}
    @{"The Danes"}
    @{"The Egyptians"}
    @{"The English"}
    @{"The French"}
    @{"The Germans"}
    @{"The Italians"}
    @{"The Polish"}
    @{"The Russians"}
    @{"The Spanish"}
    @{"The Turkish"}
    @{"The Aragonese"}
    @{"The Burgundians"}
    @{"The Golden Horde"}
    @{"The Hungarians"}
    @{"The People of Novgorod"}
    @{"The Papacy"}
    @{"The Sicilians"}
    @{"The Swiss"}
    @{"The Irish"}

    i stoped this copy/paste just before it begins describing rebel factions..didnt want the post to big.

    everything look ok? i noticed a few spaces in there..should they be?

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    Hi DeWinter,

    It seems lots of people are having problems with this part of the guide for some reason. Once I figure out how/where the issue is, I intend to update the guide to remove this problem.

    you have to realise I wrote this guide last year and I haven't really looked at it for a long time and having re-read it, it doesn't make sense to me for the nation to appear in the list before making the faction active.

    So can I suggest that you continue to section 3.2.5 and then see if the nation appears in the list.

    Please let me know if this solves it as if so, then obviously section 3.2.1 is wrong.

    Cheers
    Starkhorn

    ps your file looks grand. Spaces inside the quotes are ok. Outside the quotes are not ok.



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    Folks,

    I'll be trying to do a new version of this guide in the next few weeks so I'm looking for feedback or suggestions to improve this guide.

    I intend to update the faction colour section and also the section 3.2.1 as lots of people are having issues with it.

    If there are any other ideas out there then let me know.

    Cheers
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    Dewinter and all,

    Well something is definitely up with my guide as when you complete section 3.2.1, the guide states that your clan should be in the list, however it is not.

    The solution is to simply continue with the guide until section 3.2.14. After completing this section, start MTW and you should now see your faction in the list.

    Unsure why this occurs....will check to see if it's an issue with 2.0 and 2.1 (as I wrote the guide using 2.0 and I've now got 2.1 installed).

    Anyway, I will update the guide next week to correct this mistake.

    Also A small error to section 3.2.10.
    In this section, says
    "go into the
    textures/campmap/Castleflags/Vikings/Castleflags directory."

    The directory actually is
    textures/campmap/Vikings/Castleflags.

    I will correct this in the next version of the guide.

    Apologises to all for the confusion.

    Cheers
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    Ok. I tried adding a new faction (FN_FREE23) to Kekvitmod (had to add the mafia). I got past the Error Faction Associastion problem, but now the game won't start. I am the F*cking idiot Can someone help me, it's for a small mini mod based off of Kekvit mod which adds the mafia, and a bigger france.
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    I have added 2 new factions, the Dutch and the Swedish and everything works fine but when i add units in the CRUSADERS_UNIT_PROD11.TXT file using the gnome editor
    and start the game the following message appear:

    Unknown faction specified: column 28, row 97

    FN_FREE21

    Why????

    I have followed the guide and i´m sure i havent missed anything.

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    I've got that. factions have to be in quotes if more than one. other than that I can't help you

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    Thanks, but they are in quotes so that isn´t it.

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    Hi everyone I'm new to this forum but have been reading for a while....

    I've got the guide, installed mtw:viking

    my only problem is when the declare faction section

    I typed

    DeclareFaction:: "FN_FREE21"

    in my dutch file,early file,high file and late file but when I go to the dutch campaign its just the same no extra faction~

    I've done all the earlier stuff I have the dutch era, the dutch campaign just no faction and I cant continue until this is resolved

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    Hi manoh Have you done the guide all the way through? You need to set the faction to major and make sure there is SetStartLeader etc. in your Dutch campaign file. You don't actually need to add any names in the Loc file for it to work, but they'll just be called faction_specific_xzy### or similar. If you've followed all steps then I'm stumped. Occasionally factions will disappear for me but this is usually because I've missed something out.

    Sorry I can't be of more help.
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    I havent done all the things the guide asked me to cause I'm stuck at declare faction,

    from the guide it says I'm supposed to type
    DeclareFaction:: FN_FREE21 and then go to the campaign map and see an extra faction with some weird name at first this is according to the guide....

    so from what you say I need to do the entire guide, if so then the faction will appear in the campaign area then why in the guide it asked me to go to the campaign area after setting the declarefaction to see if an extra faction appear?

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    SwedishViking,

    I think you missed a small but vital point which is written in section 3.2.1

    when you declare your faction in the declarefaction line, you must also add this line to the early.txt, high.txt and late.txt because they all use the same crusaders.txt file.

    In version 1.1 I'll be showing a way to use an entirely seperate version of the crusader file to avoid this issue as alot of people missed it.

    Cheers
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    manoh,

    Read my post in this thread from 26 March. Basically continue until section 3.2.14.

    version 1.1 of my guide will fix that.

    cheers
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    I have already written in the early, high,and late as I have said in my earlier post but still nothing....

    Now I have a new prob I have continued with the guid after I set the region where my faction is to appear I went into mtw and poof my dutch campaign is gone at first it was there then after continueing with the guide its gone......

    Help pls, meanwhile I'm gonna redo everything after I paste
    my backup files back

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    Manoh,

    Yes I know you have done that. My post yestetday for adding the faction to early, late and high was for SwedishViking and not for you. (i.e. that's why I began my post SwedishViking)

    You made a syntax mistake somewhere in your file. The campaign will disappear when you've done that. Re-check everything you've done. Start with the last change you made. Comment it out and check to see if your campaign comes back.

    Cheers
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    sorry I didnt see the guys name, I must have read it to fast.....

    I'll try to do it again and follow your recent comments, i'll let you guys know in a couple of days if it works, thanks

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    That was it. Thanks Starkhorn

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