wow, what a depressing day

[Mount Suribachi]

Talk about a double whammy of bad news.

Mrs Suribachi is 34 weeks pregnant now and she hadn't felt the baby move with the same vigour that he normally does the last few days. She booked an appointment to see the community midwife today who examined her and told her that the baby in a Breach position.

When she told me, my first thought was "I don't know what breach position is, but is doesn't sound good"

Anyway, breach is were the baby comes out feet first rather than head first. If he doesn't right himself in the next few days then Mrs Suribachi will have to have a caeserean section

So, this first time daddy spent most of the day pondering on this.


Then I spoke to my dad this evening, he'd been trying to contact me since last night. Turns out he's got cancer, again. He was diagnosed with Bowel Cancer 2 years ago and had chemo, radiotherapy & a big operation, which thankfully worked. Then last year he was diagnosed with lung cancer, which was a secondary tumour from his bowel cancer. More chemo & another op, again successful, thankfully. Yesterday he was diagnosed with another tumour in his other lung (again a secondary).

He is all positive and determined to fight it - just like he was when he was originally diagnosed (his 2nd cancer diagnosis he was the exact opposite). I feel like I've been punched in the stomach, totally deflated. I just think, how many more times can he be diagnosed with cancer?

And now I have to cycle home from work in the cold, dark, wet night. Great.

[Dhepee]

I'm sorry you had a tough day. Sounds like it was tougher than most.

If it's any consolation don't be too worried about a c-section, my brother was a breach baby, and they didn't know that until my mother went into labor, but that was 22 years ago. She had a c-section and said it was no big deal and my brother is just fine; or as fine as a little brother can be .

I'm sorry to hear about your father too; it is so hard when someone is sick like that, especially your dad. A good friend of mine had cancer. She had a sarcoma in her leg that produced a lot of secondary tumors that popped up from time to time. There was a fair amount of surgery and chemo but she said that the secondaries aren't as dangerous as the original tumor and she got it licked. Illness is so hard, especially when it comes back, but it sounds like your dad is a fighter and I'm willing to bet that he's got a good chance.

Cheers mate, and keep your head up it will work out and you'll have a little model builder and his/her granddad will be around too.

[Crash]

The baby will be okay, and will be a joy to behold. If your wife has caesarean at least she won't have to go through labor. I watched my wife push out my baby daughter seven months ago, and it was not pretty. They are both fine now though.

Your Dad sounds pretty tough. My aunt is going through radiation treatment for cancer right now - she will be alright I think.

Good luck

[Leet Eriksson]

I do suggest you take some time off from work,everyone goes through rough times...hopefully everything will turn out fine.

[econ21]

I am sorry to hear about your Dad, Mount Suribachi. That's tough.

I would not worry too much about Mrs Suribachi though. My wife had a very tough labour - our son was in the wrong position. But she found everything started to go fine when the Doctor ordered a c-section. I don't know if you caught the news lately that the NHS is considering charging women for voluntary c-sections - a lot of mothers find them an easier way of delivery.

[Demon of Light]

Damn...
I hope your dad pulls through and I understand that caesareans are not at all dangerous for either the mother or the child. On par with regular child birth, I think. Good luck.

[Oaty]

I was born butt first folded in half (no caesarian, poor mommy). So the feet first does'nt sound so bad after all.

Well sorry to hear the bad news

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Did anyone hear about that South American woman who gave herself a Caesarean? I'll see if I can find an article.


EDIT: Here-http://www.iol.co.za/index.p....et_id=1

[JAG]

Unlucky man, as others say don't worry about your baby it will be fine :) I was also round the wrong way, nearly got totally inter wined with the cord while my mother was giving birth to me, and still have a scare on my head where they stuck this equipment type thing wotsit on me, so a cesarean section seems like a real safe and perfectly fine way to get the lil guy out. It is also done alot, so you don;t have to worry- the case could even be made that it is far safer.

Hard luck about your dad though, but he sounds like a fighter and I guess all you can do is fight with him. You will get through it :)

[solypsist]

good luck, all the best.

[Voigtkampf]

Sorry about those bad news, I hope that everything will turn out right and wish you and your family all the best.

[Mount Suribachi]

Quote[/b] (JAG @ May 08 2004,01:52)]Unlucky man, as others say don't worry about your baby it will be fine :) I was also round the wrong way, nearly got totally inter wined with the cord while my mother was giving birth to me, and still have a scare on my head where they stuck this equipment type thing wotsit on me

You know what JAG, suddenly its all starting to make sense.......



Seriously, thanks for the kind words guys.

[Fragony]

Hope your father makes it. My father had bowel cancer as well, but when he got the diagnose it was allready in the terminal stage. I am thankfull he didn't have any pain, as a matter of fact I had a good laugh with him 2 days before he died. Remarkable person.

[frogbeastegg]

What a double whammy to be hit with, I hope it all turns out ok Mount Suribachi.

Don't worry about your wife (although that is a redundant thing to say because you will worry anyway) c-sections are so common these days they are trying to cut down on them. Just think of all the practise the doctors have had doing what is now a simple op.

[Lord Godfrey]

Thoughts and prayers are with you and your family Suribachi

[Sigurd]

Mount... I know what you are going through... well except cycling in the cold wet dark.

My mother died of bowel cancer in 2001 and I remember the pain of seeing her struggle with the cursed disease. She had her intestines removed and went through hard cures. But to no avail; the cancer was too aggressive.
Be as positive as you can when around your father; he needs the support.

As to your baby... No worries m8, my babygirl (3 m) was in breach position from week 33 to 37 but tuned head first in week 38.

[A.Saturnus]

The determination to fight cancer is already half-way overcoming it.

[Hosakawa Tito]

I know that for me, the worst and most frustrating part about such troubles is the absolute feeling of helplessness one has. You want to do something, anything, but these type things are beyond our control. What worked for me was to keep busy, keep communicating with family and friends. One can derive much support/strength from them. While there's still life, there's hope so don't give in to despair. As Saturnus said, positive thinking is powerful medicine.

[DemonArchangel]

Damn man, I wish you good luck. And introduce your heir to the beauty of Total War at an early age.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Wow. That sucks. I was going to post about my week to make you feel better before I read this, but, wow...
You have my most sincere hopes that everything will be alright and your dad and baby will be okay.
Best wishes,
Capo

[Red Peasant]

Good Luck to you and yours MS. I'm sure you'll fight through. Make the most of every day, for no-one knows what the morrow brings, but may it bring some good news for you.

[Mount Suribachi]

Well, the missus had to go into hospital today - she was only in a few hours whilst they did some checks on her - he wasn't moving as much again so they pulled her just to make sure. The entire time I'm stuck at work btw - after I was here till 1am last night, er this morning

She's OK though, and so is Baby Who has also managed to turn round and stand on his head again. The little monkey is doing somersaults in her womb, I swear

[JAG]

You see nowt to worry about, it is infact a good thign to see him moving about, he is just itching to get out and kick you in the nuts :p

[Hosakawa Tito]

He's just doing his job, which is to give his parents gray hairs.

[Mount Suribachi]

You don't know how true that is (see other thread)

[Papewaio]

Cancer... it is a bugger to deal with. I have to have yearly checks now after the first lot. I think your dad as the main part done, positive attitude and willingness to go with the treatment and obviously family that cares.

As for breach position and c-section. I don't envy the scares the little ones can do you. I can remember the worry new born animals could give me on the farm. I won't go gray I will just go bald when I have kids.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Front Room material.

[octavian]

hope it all works out for ya m8

[ElmarkOFear]

Take it from a daddy who was in the room to watch his baby girl born via Ceasarean section and was in the room again when his son was born via the normal method.

One thing you will find out. A C-section is easier on the baby during, but harder on the mom afterwards, since she will have a longer recovery time. You will have to take care of the baby until mom feel better.

A normal birth is easier on the mother afterwards and harder on the baby during. Your baby's head might look a little mishapened at first, but it will round out soon enough.

I am sorry to hear about your father. Cancer is a very scary disease and it is hard to know what to expect. Wish your family the best and hang in there. Just remember: Your wife COULD have been carrying triplets YIKES


NOTE: My daughter flip-flopped DURING the labor. Luckily with all the monitors they used, the nurses noticed the slower heart beat and called the doctor. He determined her to be breach and immediately ordered the C-section. You could hear my daughter fussing as they were pulling her, butt first, out of the womb. I tell her now, she hasn't stopped fussing since