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    Scootland.

    Although I am Russian.

    I am also 1/3 Scottish.
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    You see that is a biased vote, if you can only give the reason that you're scottish for you're vote, it shouldnt be counted.

    At the moment Scotland 14 Ireland 11 looks like things are going bad for Ireland anyway.
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    No I have other reasons. But they were allreaddy said by other people.

    Why restate them?
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    I would say that Scotland has the majority it needs. Unless anybody has anything new to say that will refute the arguments for Scotlnad I would say this debate is done.
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    Oh sorry Zharakov it just seemed that you were only voting for Scotland because you were part Scottish, if you'd have said I agree with Ignoramus and Godspetmonkeys arguments I would have left your vote alone...

    Anyway it seems like Ireland lost anyway, oh well here comes the waste of a faction....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saranalos
    Oh sorry Zharakov it just seemed that you were only voting for Scotland because you were part Scottish, if you'd have said I agree with Ignoramus and Godspetmonkeys arguments I would have left your vote alone...

    Anyway it seems like Ireland lost anyway, oh well here comes the waste of a faction....
    You're just bitter
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    Not true. The history of Scottland is far more in depth then Ireland.

    Scottland fought around 46 wars with England, Ireland about 3...


    It also makes mroe sence because Ireland belonged to England during the Renesance, and Scottland was not defeated untill 1741.

    Besides, Scottland was never really a major power in Europe. They were just an anoying thorn in the English sides.
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    Scotland was never defeated. England bribed the lords of the Scottish Parliament in 1707 to agree to the Act of Union. While the only people who benefited were traders and the lords, really, we were not defeated, unlike the Irish. what happened in 1746 ( assume you means that, at the battle of Culloden) was when the Jacobites, and Bonnie Prince Charlie startes what was essentially a civil war and tried to take the crown for James Stewart/Stuart, the old pretender.

    Most of the people of Scotland opposed the rebellion, being devout presbyterians of the Kirk. The Government Army which fought at the Battle of Culloden against the Jacobites was made up mostly of Scots. My History teachers at school have struggled to put aside misconceptions held by people that the English defeated the Scots at Culloden, and that it was the Protestant British against the Catholic Jacobites, the British Army being made up mostly of Scots. They have drilled this into my head, and I shall not have Scotland shamed by someone saying it was defeated by the English (except at sport).
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    The english bribed the bankrupt lords of Scotland (see the failure of the New Caladonia expedition), not that there were many rich people left, the country was in serious financial problems, the english saw this, and figured paying them off would be better then previous methods employed to bring Scotland 'into the fold'.

    But there hadn't been any major problems since both countries had the same monarch, most stuggles from then on were for religous reasons, hence it was a British army, not english nor scottish that won Culloden.
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    Scottland fought around 46 wars with England, Ireland about 3...
    Yes but the Irish kept fighting the English until they got their independence there was always some resistance.

    You're just bitter
    Maybe but I still think Scotland is a waste of a faction unless played by a human player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saranalos
    Yes but the Irish kept fighting the English until they got their independence there was always some resistance.



    Maybe but I still think Scotland is a waste of a faction unless played by a human player.
    With RTWs AI, thats the case for all factions.
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    Well if you really want to get technical Ireland probably had somewhere around 100 civil wars/wars of independence over the years.
    Some factions give a good fight....
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    Shhhh... Don't tell me these things... lol.

    In truth, we don't learn much about Scotland in Russia. But I can tell you ALOT you may not have know about Russia.


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    One thing I know about russia is that its navy was founded by a Scottish admiral
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    Thanks to Peater the Greats ambitions.

    Also, why will Russian be light blue? Shouldnt Scotland be light blue? And shouldn't Russia be green or white?

    Just asking.
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    I don't know what Russia's colors should be, here in the US they do not teach us much....about pre-Lenin Russia.

    Please tell us the secrets, but first make sure there are no ex-KGB guys hanging about. I will distract the CIA so they do not try anything.
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    My dad is EX-KGB *now hes a Spetsnaz*. So I am safe.
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    Scotland by a long shot!! Scotland has a far etter histroy than ireland, what has ireland actually ever done?? Scotland has achieved a great deal, All ireland is famous for is fleeing the their country. Scotland has fought off all the major powers of the medieval ages, the english, the romans, the vikings you name it. We have never been conquered!!!

    Scotland the brave

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