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    Quote Originally Posted by Valer View Post
    So I tried to go under the 60-barrier with egyptians, still in expert difficulty, early period... ... ...It worked very well since I won after 44 turns !
    Another impressive result! My jaw dropped, when I first saw it...

    Although, to be fair here... I think we should point out that Valer did achieve such good results by doing this with a different "set of rules" then I used - in my previous entries/posts. After all, I made a point of not using "low and easy"-units like peasants, spearmen and urban-boys in my runs/campaigns - much in contrast to Valer who used whatever units available to him as he raced against/towards the "60-barrier". Obviously, all my previous remarks on factions and speed in general are hopelessly colored by that very fact, and evidently utterly irrelevant in Valers campaigns. As has been also clearly demonstrated here, by Valer. Using an "Axalon-set-of-rules" will unquestionably slow things down and make things harder somehow, while a "Valer-set of rules" (in short, use whatever units available to you. Minus all mercenaries, as I understand it) will be easier and faster somehow. There is little doubt to be had on all that. All the same, the "Axalon-set of rules" are not (and never was) mandatory for people to follow, and folks are obviously free to play it in any way they like. Just like Valer did. That said...

    Upon seeing Valers last run (campaign) with the Egyptians and only 44 turns... My jaw basically dropped, it clearly made the 60-barrier much less formidable if a "Valer-set of rules" was used - evidently. So, what to do? Instead of stupidly trying to enforce the "Axalon-set of rules" upon the rest of the world on this note, I simply decided to just adapt and adjust here... Play with the "Valer-set of rules" and see whatever happens... And ultimately see how the "60-barrier" fits into all that... Here is what I ended up with (in the spoiler folks, as its a big fat secret and all)...

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    30 (freaking) turns! This at expert, default unit-size, no alliances, mercenaries and cheats. I used whatever units was
    available to me - save mercs. Had I used mercs too, I could have managed to cut at least a few more turns for sure.


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    It may not be symptomatic, nor a touchstone to gauge one's success with. Each faction has a different starting conditions, some factions have better units than others. For example, the Byz are known to have multi-starred princes/kings from the outset and a unit to rely on in any battle - Varangian guard. Their starting provinces in early are superb. Those are some of the reasons of your stunning performance. If you started, say, with the French in High the outcome might have been somewhat different.

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    Haha nice one Axalon, your spoiler killed me, 30 turns is just awesome ! Your result, even in the "Valer-set of rules" (and yes, I also didn't use mercenaries), really impress me :D

    Just to be clear about our rules, I think that vikings units are the danes' equivalent of peasants, since they are cheap and just need a fort to be recruited. And we can agree that vikings are way better units than peasants, and therefore a hudge advantage on those kind of rush, as you stated it on your post about danes' campaign. So I saw this restriction as an arbitrary one, because to me Vikings are also "easy" units. That's why I didn't see the point to put cheap units out of my run in the first place.
    In "Axolon-set of rules" (I love these rules' names by the way), I agree with you, Danes are probably one of the best factions.

    Anyway 30 turns appears to me like a great challenge, half of our dear 60 turns barrier, you showed no mercy. I might try to do a similar performance later, if my skill allows me to do so !

    I also agree with you Gilrandir, starting conditions are very unequal among the different factions. However I persist, I think that most of the factions can win in less that 60 turns, even France in High period (smaller factions like Aragon will certainly have more trouble with this objectif). 10 minutes ago, 30 turns seemed unreachable to me, but now maybe that France in High can reach 40 turns or something like that (but likely nothing comparable to Byzantines in Early era, indeed).

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    Thanks man, as it is, even I have problems grasping such turbo-haha-speed... :D

    Anyhow... In times like these, I am totally with Valer. Any faction can reach the 60-barrier... "Valer-set of rules", of course... Had anyone asked me the same thing some 2-3 weeks ago - I would have had serious doubts about it. Now, I have zero doubts about it. Prior to all this extreme turbo-overdrive-stuff, I never ever heard of anyone that had actually managed to beat MTW in less then 50 or even 60 turns, regardless of difficulty. The result of "Byzantium at 30" have certainly forced me to change how I view all these things - as it is both ridiculous and extreme (in the extreme) - well beyond what I previously thought was actually possible to achieve in MTW. Hell, "Egypt at 44" did that already...

    As for France, in "High"... I could probably do a very good run with France in "High" - all them French castles would certainly rival or surpass that of Byzantium in early, in terms of favourable circumstances. The kingdom also is split in two, and far away as well, that too would serve my blitzer-haha-plans extremely well. And all them pretty castles, that all the other factions also had, sure would save me a lot of valuable time too... There is zero doubts in my mind that I could and would fly right through the "60-barrier" and beyond with that one...

    Also, while we are still talking about the obvious... There is a reason I constantly disregard all periods/eras save "Early" in this context. Early is without a doubt the hardest possible period to handle given the context of "blitzkrieg in MTW" (and all this began as to put MTW and its challenges to the test). No infrastructure, little or no tech anywhere... You are typically forced to build up all that on your own, as peasants and such will hardly do in any serious battle, and all that takes time. Time you don't really have, not in this extreme context you don't. Both in "High" and "Late" there are plenty of tech and castles everywhere - that's easier, a lot easier. To go below even 30 turns in MTW - I think that would be the best place to start - for that very reason, its a lot easier there. I doubt it will happen in early, but these days who knows...

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    And another one.... Strudel unt sauerkraut-season are back all over Europe!



    27 turns! Jawohl! Ze Germans! This at expert, default unit-size, no alliances, mercenaries and cheats. I used whatever units was available to me - save mercs. Yup the Germans are back up in the lead, cooking sauerkraut and dominating Europe yet again... Seriously, this will probably mark the end of my blitz-adventures in “Early” as the HRE is probably the last solid faction that could ever hope to somehow rival Byzantium as a favourable starting point for doing this kind of turbo-haha-nonsense in raw MTW. This time I really had lousy generals all over – the best one I got eventually earned up to 4 stars - and my troops were really not much to look at either. I lost a few battles in this run because of all that. I was reminded several times why I hate low grade troops so much. Running around like chickens instead of fighting as soldiers. And the Pope? I killed him and his minions as soon as I was in position to do so, as usual...

    If I do more of this silly hyper-blitzing across the map it will probably be in “High” from now on. Its probably the only viable option left for this kind of nonsense because I don’t think I can get much lower/faster in “Early” anyways. Then again, just a few days ago I said that someone ever going below 30 turns seemed doubtful in “Early”. Nah, I think I do this in “High” from now on, with all them juicy castles. I rather conquer a castle then build it, and save myself a lot of precious time and coin in the process. Anyhow, this is getting ridiculous... Beating MTW in less then 30 turns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    It may not be symptomatic, nor a touchstone to gauge one's success with. Each faction has a different starting conditions, some factions have better units than others. For example, the Byz are known to have multi-starred princes/kings from the outset and a unit to rely on in any battle - Varangian guard. Their starting provinces in early are superb. Those are some of the reasons of your stunning performance. If you started, say, with the French in High the outcome might have been somewhat different.
    Nope, not really... :D




    "It was time for croissants, wine and French wenches..." France, High - 29 turns... Actually even faster then what I did with the Byzantines...

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    Hi, i recently started one campaign with the Turks and appeared the Sultan Suleyman The Magnificent, now i go to smash all europe and take Viena XD.

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    After conquest Serbia


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    Quite the impressive army over there.
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    nice pics Sultan ....

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