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    Canada legalises gay marriages

    21.07.05 10.50am

    OTTAWA - Canada formally became the fourth country in the world to legalise gay marriages today after the country's Senate overwhelmingly approved the legislation.

    Belgium, the Netherlands and Spain already permit same-sex marriages, and a number of Canadian provinces have been allowing such legal unions for some time.

    The Senate upper chamber - dominated by members from the governing Liberal party - voted 47-21 to pass the law.

    The House of Commons had already approved the legislation despite fierce opposition from conservative politicians and from religious groups who portrayed it as an attack on organised religion.

    The law came into power today when a Supreme Court judge approved it. That job would normally be done by Governor General Adrienne Clarkson, who represents Queen Elizabeth, Canada's head of state. But Clarkson is recovering after having had a pacemaker fitted earlier this month.

    The Liberal government said it had to draw up the legislation to allow same-sex marriages across the country after courts in eight of the 10 provinces ruled that a heterosexual-only definition of marriage was unconstitutional.

    Opponents fear churches and religious officials could be sued for refusing to carry out same sex marriages.

    However, while the legislation grants gays and lesbians the right to full civil marriages, it makes clear that religious officials would not be obliged to marry same-sex couples.

    Some provinces have already become something of a tourist destination for gay couples from other countries who are seeking to get married.

    Canadian residency requirements are less strict than those in other countries that allow gay marriage, but the new unions may not be recognised in the couples' home countries.

    - REUTERS
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    Ok, my dual citizenship will now become singular citizenship. Germany is too Catholic to allow this in the near future.

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    Congratulations et félicitations Canada!

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    Ok, my dual citizenship will now become singular citizenship. Germany is too Catholic to allow this in the near future.
    Is Germany more catholic than Spain? I doubt it.
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    The ruling party is primarily Catholic though, it is the German Christian party. I can't believe Canada allowed this. Pah.

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    This might be good for the U.S. Some of our population might move up north.

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    This might be good for the U.S. Some of our population might move up north.
    Funny I was thinking the same thing. Not only that but chances are they would be mostly liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Funny I was thinking the same thing. Not only that but chances are they would be mostly liberals.

    Maybe, but Im against gay marriage so I could care less if such people left. Sounds like the day of the moderates will rise.

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    Now if only people down here would grow a spine, and allow Gays to get the legal benefits of Marriage somehow. I realize that full-on Marriage is offensive to religious people, but it's simply cruel to not allow any form of Legal Partnership for these people.
    For the most part I agree with you here. But why should being gay have anything to do with it? Any people who wish to form of Legal Partnership should be able to gay or straight. Just dont call it marriage but what it is a Legal Partnership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    For the most part I agree with you here. But why should being gay have anything to do with it? Any people who wish to form of Legal Partnership should be able to gay or straight. Just dont call it marriage but what it is a Legal Partnership.
    Personally, I just don't see a need for it- but I agree, if we're going to do it, lets not be discriminatory and make it applicable to all and not just gays.
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    Religion has no place in this disscussion. Were talking about recognition by the state not by god here. Dragging religion into it only muddies up the waters.
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    I would be interested to hear how many Religious people on this Board would be opposed to this:

    Make one legal secular thingummer that will bing any two people legally and give the benefits of Marriage--Don't call it marriage. That way, the legal process is totally separate from the religious process, and someone can still go follow it up with what they see as the proper way to unite in matromony if they please.
    Other than Nav would venture very few.
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    as a lesbian friend of mine wrote:
    "So many of the lesbians in our community are thinking that we have no rights in regards to common law marriage, or domestic partnership. The part that people are leaving out is this: WE HAVE ALL THE SAME RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS MARRIED COUPLES, IF YOU CHOOSE TO FILE FOR DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP! the only thing we are being denied would be the tax breaks."

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    as a lesbian friend of mine wrote:
    "So many of the lesbians in our community are thinking that we have no rights in regards to common law marriage, or domestic partnership. The part that people are leaving out is this: WE HAVE ALL THE SAME RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS MARRIED COUPLES, IF YOU CHOOSE TO FILE FOR DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP! the only thing we are being denied would be the tax breaks."
    I say give them that also. But I also think that if me and a friend want to buy and share a home we should be allowed the same rights. Love and marriage straight and gay have nothing to do with this. Its just a legal contract between consenting adults.
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    Domestic Partners Registries [02 Apr 2005|05:31am]



    NATIONAL
    United States House of Representatives December 1995
    Members of the House their staff now have the option of
    registering their same-sex partners as "significant others"
    for the purposes of House Rule 52, which prohibits them from
    accepting gifts from anyone besides family and personal friends.
    "Significant others" may be same-sex or opposite-sex.

    Arizona
    Tucson (Pima) December 2003

    California
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA October 2, 1999
    Arcata (Humboldt) 1998
    Berkeley (Alameda) October 1991
    Open to Anyone
    Cathedral City (Riverside) September 1991
    Davis (Yolo) May 1994
    Laguna Beach (Orange) June 1990
    Long Beach
    (Los Angeles) March 18, 1997
    Los Angeles
    (Los Angeles) May 6, 1999
    Los Angeles County March 23, 1999
    Oakland (Alameda) June 1996
    Palo Alto (Santa Clara) December 1995
    Sacramento (Sacramento) October 1992
    San Francisco
    (San Francisco) November 1990
    Santa Barbara County July 1999
    West Hollywood
    (Los Angeles) February 1985

    Colorado
    Denver (Denver) December 3, 1999

    Connecticut
    Hartford (hartford) June 1993
    Symbolic Only, provides no legal or financial benefits.

    District of Columbia
    Washington D.C. April 1992
    Each year since the D.C. Council passed the domestic partners law,
    Congress has attached amendments to the city's budget laws barring
    the city from using federal and D.C. funds for its implementation.

    Florida
    Broward County July 12, 1999

    Georgia
    Atlanta (Fulton) June 1993
    Atlanta's right to establish a domestic partnership registry was
    upheld by the Georgia Supreme Court in March 1995, with help from
    Lambda, in Atlanta et al. v. McKinney et al., 454 S.E.2d 517
    (Ga. 1995).

    Hawai'i
    STATE OF HAWAI'I July 1997

    Illinois
    Oak Park (Cook) October 1997
    On March 17, 1998, symbolic vote reaffirms registry after ballot
    initiative challenge.
    Same-Sex Couples Only

    Iowa
    Iowa City (Johnson) Date unavailable

    Maine
    Portland (Cumberland) June 20, 2001

    Massachusetts STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS September 1992
    Governor's Executive Order allows state workers to register for
    purposes of bereavement leave and visitation rights in state prisons
    and hospitals.
    Boston (Suffolk) December 1993
    Brewster (Barnstable) 1995
    Brookline (Norfolk) June 1993
    Same-sex couples only
    Cambridge (Middlesex) September 1992
    Nantucket (Nantucket) April 1996
    Northampton (Hampshire) [May 1995]
    This measure, approved by the City Council in May of 1995, was
    then repealed by voter referendum in November of 1995.
    Provincetown (Barnstable) 1993
    Not limited to Provincetown residents.

    Michigan
    Ann Arbor (Washtenaw) November 1991
    East Lansing (Ingham) March 1991

    Minnesota
    Minneapolis (Hennepin) January 1991
    [Benefits were invalidated by court order, Lilly v. City of
    Minneapolis 1994 WL 315620 (Minn. Dist. Ct.) The Minneapolis
    Supreme Court refused to review the state court of appeals'
    decision. Lilly v. City of Minneapolis, 527 N.W.2d 107, rev.
    denied, March 31, 1995. Registry remained unaffected.]

    Missouri
    St. Louis (St. Louis)
    March 10, 1997
    Executive Order by Mayor Freeman Bosley. Allows visitation in
    city hospitals and prisons.

    New York
    Albany (Albany) June 1996
    Ithaca (Tompkins) August 1990
    New York City (New York, Kings, Queens, Bronx, Richmond) January 1993
    Rochester (Monroe) April 1994

    North Carolina
    Carrboro (Orange) October 11, 1994
    Chapel Hill (Orange) April 24, 1995

    Oregon
    Ashland (Jackson) October 5, 1999

    Washington
    Seattle (King) September 6, 1994

    Wisconsin Madison (Dane) August 1988
    Milwaukee (Milwaukee) September 1, 1999

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    I dont want them married because it will be easier for them to adopt kids NO child should have to live like that.
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    I dont want them married because it will be easier for them to adopt kids NO child should have to live like that.
    Why is marriage a requirement in the first place? Rosey O Donnel isnt married. Well at least not in the eyes of the law. I wonder if she still considers herself married. She should. I dont think anything other than the welfare of the child should be considered for adoption. Now Im not saying what this is as every case is different.
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    You can almost smell the KY and leather chaps coming from the winds of my Northern Neighbors. Congrats to Canada for giving a helping hand to the mentally and sexually disturbed portion of their population. Hooray for the Canadians (and thank God I'm living in the US!!!).

    Do you think they'll start recognizing polygamy, incestual, or beastility types of relationships? I would think you would not want to discriminate against other "alternate" lifestyles.
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    Sorry, wrong thread. I thought this was Apathy Club, but I now realized it was Homophobia Club........

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    Sorry, wrong thread. I thought this was Apathy Club, but I now realized it was Homophobia Club.......
    No this is the apethitic Homophobia Club. We dont care about it. Another much over and wrongly used phrase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    No this is the apethitic Homophobia Club. We dont care about it. Another much over and wrongly used phrase.
    Oh, I am sorry. I didn't intend to offend you. Of course you don't care.....

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    Oh, I am sorry. I didn't intend to offend you. Of course you don't care....
    How can you offend me when I dont care?

    Hey I have to say that making this legal in your country would be everymans dream if used properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    How can you offend me when I dont care?

    Hey I have to say that making this legal in your country would be everymans dream if used properly.

    Sure, no problem. We ALL know that you don't care....

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    Gawain do you have amnesia? I posted this the day it happened with the time oh anouncement on the title!

    Did everyone forget that, I put a lot of effort into that thread damn it!

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    Gawain do you have amnesia? I posted this the day it happened with the time oh anouncement on the title!

    Did everyone forget that, I put a lot of effort into that thread damn it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil_maniac from mars
    The ruling party is primarily Catholic though, it is the German Christian party. I can't believe Canada allowed this. Pah.
    You are wrong.... The government in Germany is made up of a coalition between the SDP - social democrats, lefties etc - and the Green party - more to the left of the SDP. There might also be some other small parties I am missing out, but they are the two main parts of the government.

    The Christian democrats are the opposition and they are odds on to win the election to be held fairly shortly, but don't count the SDP out yet.

    As for Germany allowing gay marriage, I reckon it isn't that far off, over here in the UK we already have gay marriage in all but name and the vast, vast, vast majority of people supports it, it is the next logical step to simply legalise gay marriage. When it is legalised in Spain, as it will be shortly and here in the next few years.. Other countries won't be far behind. About bloody time.

    Back onto the thread... Good news, it always amazes me how well Canada ignores all the backward thinking coming from a majority of the people on the other side of their border. Well played Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    Gawain do you have amnesia? I posted this the day it happened with the time oh anouncement on the title!

    Did everyone forget that, I put a lot of effort into that thread damn it!
    Byz the game marriage act only became official today as it passed through the 2 rubber stamps (the senate and the governor gen.)and became law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573
    Byz the game marriage act only became official today as it passed through the 2 rubber stamps (the senate and the governor gen.)and became law.
    True, but those are just formalities. Can the Senate turn down the law? I know for a fact the Governor General can't.

    This law was already passed some time ago. Oh well Gawain, as always takes advantage of the technicalities to out do me.

    Nevertheless, this is great. Just a small stepping stone to the deterioration of consevativism up here. Keep sending us your liberals guys.

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    This law was already passed some time ago. Oh well Gawain, as always takes advantage of the technicalities to out do me.
    Come on I heard it on the news today so I googled and posted it. Your name or post never even entered my mind.
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    okay so lets start up the debate again.

    1-Oh, what about legalizing beastility and incest, we dont want to descriminate against them.

    2-Dont be ignorant, its okay to descriminate against some sexual prefrences, but others you have to fight to legalize.


    I agree with person 1 if were going to legalize one strange sexual habit then we have to legalize them all.

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