Black pastors seek gay marriage ban amid family issues

**Big King Sanctaphrax** · 08-10-2005, 02:22

Originally Posted by ceasar010

Don't worry about what the atheist say...they laugh now but once they stand before the lord they won't be.

Even if I had conclusive proof that he did exist, bending the knee to a judgemental and murderous higher being just isn't my style.

**Steppe Merc** · 08-10-2005, 03:42

The Big King hit it right on. If there was a God, he doesn't deserve my worship if he destroyed all most all of humanity because he didn't like how they were running things.

**Ironside** · 08-10-2005, 08:22

Its not false its the truth. Would I have to be gay to marry another man? If so then they are getting special privleges if not whats the meaning of marriage? What we are saying is that there is no law in the US that denies gays the ability to marry.

Gah! This thread grows too fast for me.

But anyway you'll need to be exactly as gay to marry someone of the same sex as you need to be straight for marry someone of the opposite sex.

The point of marriage is nowadays a statement of love and commitment.
As it's for you, from a state view only about children IIRC, would you then deny a straight couple marrying if thier too old to procreate? As the point of that marriage is?

Alrowan what about God's messing with the pharao? He forces the pharao to say no to Moses and then punishes pharao's people because pharao says no. Fair judge? I think not.
Always wondered about that part.

**Alrowan** · 08-10-2005, 10:24

they did enslave the israelistes for hundreds of years...

**Ja'chyra** · 08-10-2005, 11:02

Originally Posted by Alrowan

God holds the right to judgment, and he jugdes those who do wrong, we will all in fact be jugded at the end of the age, so i guess you better start making excuses.

Or maybe when you are lying on your death bed, hopefully many years from now you will look back and wish you had done something worthwhile with all the time you spent at church or reading the bible.

**Ironside** · 08-10-2005, 16:55

Originally Posted by Alrowan

they did enslave the israelistes for hundreds of years...

And the method used for revenge is weird to say the least.

**Don Corleone** · 08-10-2005, 18:14

Originally Posted by Ja'chyra

Or maybe when you are lying on your death bed, hopefully many years from now you will look back and wish you had done something worthwhile with all the time you spent at church or reading the bible.

Look, I'm going to be the bigger man and force myself to believe this comes from a certain amount of ignorance about what people who attend church on a regular basis or read the bible regularly do with their lives.

But please, do not presume to declare that attending church or reading the bible is a waste of time if you want those of us who do to respect the way you choose to live your life. I would put my life's accomplishments up against any secular humanists and, guess what.... I attend church weekly and read the bible daily.

**Ja'chyra** · 08-10-2005, 18:36

So what exactly was different in Alrowans post Don?

It's ok for him to say that we need to start thinking of excuses but not ok for me to say going to church is a waste of time?