[BI] Adding a new religion

[alpaca]

Hmm does it work with assassins or diplomats?
In BI, those can have a religion, so I thought it works as character in province type conversion.

[Andreas]

Ahh it seems you can convert, but not affect the religous order(which i tried)... Which menas you can train spies that will convert other cities to you religion... which is kinda cool, since it perfect for my work:)

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

Ahh it seems you can convert, but not affect the religous order(which i tried)... Which menas you can train spies that will convert other cities to you religion... which is kinda cool, since it perfect for my work:)

That is interesting, "spy preachers"

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

Would this give a "spy preacher"?

Export_descr_character_trait.txt
-------------
Trigger agentsx
WhenToTest SpyMission

Condition MissionSuccessLevel = slightly_successful
and Trait GoodSpy = 1

Affects GoodSpy 1 Chance 10
Affects ArianPreacher 1 Chance 5
----------
Trait ArianPreacher
Characters spy, assassin

Level ArianPreacer
Description Arian_Preacher_desc
EffectsDescription Arian_Preacher_effects_desc
Threshold 1
---------------

Export_VnVS.txt
-------------
{Arian_Preacher} Pagan

{Arian_Preacher_desc}
This man has specialised in converting the ignorant to the true faith.

{Arian_Preacher_desc}
+5% Arian conversion
-------------

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

Should be :

{Arian_Preacher__effects_desc}
+5% Arian conversion

[Andreas]

With a effect religious_belief, yes.

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

With a effect religious_belief, yes.

Yes, that´s right, you got to have this text to get some result (and description of Arian of course)
-------------
Trait Arian
Characters all
AntiTraits Pagan, Zoroastrian, Christian, Maniche

Level Arian
Description Arian_desc
EffectsDescription Arian_effects_desc
Threshold 1

Religious_Belief arianism 1
----------------------------

[killerxguy]

COOL! COOL! Know our empiric ages mod can have religions as needed!

[alpaca]

Keep in mind that currently only the three first ones cause unrest (unless that will be fixed in the next patch).

[faulkner]

Hey Alpaca et al

This is a great topic and looking forward to implementing it....but I am a little confused on how to exactly create the 24 or 32 bit pip???

I can follow the rest of the instructions on where to put it, but i can't for the life of me work out how to find the PIP (i can't even find the existing religious ones) and copy the the judaism star into it.

Can someone help me on this step please, I have been modding RTW since it first came out....but his has me stumped

cheers

faulkner

[alpaca]

You open Photoshop, create an image, save it as a tga in the right directory.
That's all you have to do, really.
The existing ones are in a pack somewhere so you can't find them ofc.

[faulkner]

thanks Alpaca

Will do tonight, I'll let you know.

faulkner

[faulkner]

excellent finally got it to work, thanks for the tips

[Meneldil]

Has anyone checked if new religions cause disorder with 1.6 ? I'd gladly try to, but I can't install 1.6 cause of my 5 RTW folders (the installer can't find the RTW.exe)

[Rodion Romanovich]

My conclusion was that it is impossible. The test I did was the following:

added to descr_beliefs.txt a religion called shia, used the christian pips, but new tags

added these new tags in text/expanded_bi.txt

edited descr_regions.txt to add a shia minority of 20% in Rome, decreasing the paganism by 20%

deleted map.rwm

opened RTW. When hovering the mouse over the religion bar, I see that there are 20% shias, but no shia unrest appears above.

next I tried removing the pagan minority altogether, using 25% shias. Opened RTW again, when hovering mouse over religion bar, I see that there are 25% shias, but no shia unrest appears above.

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

"Has anyone checked if new religions cause disorder with 1.6 ? I'd gladly try to, but I can't install 1.6 cause of my 5 RTW folders (the installer can't find the RTW.exe)"

As said above the "unrest" factor does still not work for added religions in 1,06 I tested it yesterday but no unrest.

[Andreas]

That was bad news, that means that for those religons you will have to add traits to make up for that... A shame, I hoped they would have solved it. But it was a minor thing for us anyway, but could have been away to make culture differences biiger.

[westcoastjay206]

Im having a problem when i add buildings i do everything by the guid but as soon as i try to play with my new religion it crashes right at the BI intro movie

can someone take a look at my txt and see if there is anything wrong?

export_descr_buildings------------

building temple_of_judaism
{
    levels temple_of_judaism_shrine 
    {
        temple_of_judaism_shrine requires factions { roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                recruits_exp_bonus bonus 1
                religious_belief judaism 1
            }
            construction  1 
            cost  400 
            settlement_min town
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}

----------------------

export_descr_buildings_enums

temple_of_judaism_shrine_
temple_of_judaism_shrine__desc
temple_of_judaism_shrine__desc_short

---------------------------

descr_beliefs

judaism
data/ui/pips/pip_religion_judaism_positive.tga
data/ui/pips/pip_religion_judaism_negative.tga
data/ui/pips/pip_religion_judaism.tga
JEWISH_LABEL
JEWISH_UNREST
JEWISH_ORDER

---------

text/expanded_bi

{JEWISH_LABEL}                      Judaism
{JEWISH_UNREST}                     Judaism is causing unrest in this settlement
{JEWISH_ORDER}                      Judaism is improving public order in this settlement

====

text/export_buildings
{temple_of_judaism_shrine} Jewish Shrine

{temple_of_judaism_shrine__desc} The jewish shrine is very simalar to the christian shrine but the teachings obviously completely diffrent christianity belives in jesus, islam mohammed, but judaism has no massiah.

{temple_of_judaism_shrine__desc_short} The jewish basic building.

I dont know about you guys but i cant see anything wrong please tell me if you do its really starting to piss me off

BTW i got rtw_bi 1.6 fresh (no mods)

[alpaca]

Hmm, try it with one underscore (_) in front of "desc" in export_buildings.txt instead of two.

[Dol Guldur]

That'd be my first suggestion too. You also should make sure there is a _name entry at the beginning of the EB but the absence of that should not cause a CTD.

[Andreas]

Yes, that is a problem and you do not need the enums... but it shouldn't cause a crash with wrong descriptions, IMO. Do you use -show_err?

[westcoastjay206]

yea i got show_errs on but it dosent tell me anything ill try wat you guys said

[kleemann]

You can change the order of religions. I did it. Actually i add the religions option to RTW. just copy the descr_beliefs.txt to the data folder. Add the religion entri to text files. If you change the order of religions, then in first reload of the game make strange behavior, like no priovincial food production. But quit the game and load again. Then it runs ok. The idea of changin the order is to make paganism the first entry and not christianity because if character has no religious trait and the city has no religious building, its primari religion is christianity. even if you have put paganism to all settlements.

Only 3 religions can add to RTW. More ones caused CTD

[Seasoned Alcoholic]

Cracking tutorial mate, I'm currently working on importing BI's religious aspects into the mod, A question of faith.... This is inspirational stuff mate, some great research and work you've put in yet again!

Thanks!

[Makanyane]

For anyone who wants to keep their mod contained in BI files you can actually redirect to BI (so possibly also my_mod) for the pips: if you change descr_beliefs.txt to

....
data/ui/pips/pip_religion_pagan.tga
PAGAN_LABEL
PAGAN_UNREST
PAGAN_ORDER

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
zoroastrian
BI/data/ui/pips/pip_religion_zoroastrian_positive.tga...etc

That will pick up the zoroastrian one from BI/data/ui/pips and the pagan from where-ever the pesky thing is in the RTW paks (never did find that)

[Dol Guldur]

Data\packs\DATA\UI\PIPS

But do remember that that pak file (patch_0.pak) is not included in the tool's bat file (unless it has been updated recently) and you'll need to add it in.

If it is not unpacked you will see other pips but not the religious ones.

[robbo188]

This is 5 billion years late I know - but I've only recently finished modding the religion aspect of BI (though I haven't been trying ALL this time).

Were I able to post links (I'm not very good with technology and so modding required weeks of constant installing uninstalling and so on) I'd show the pictures of my new religions - (if anyone could tell me how to create a link that would be great)

The long and short of my message is that with your help I've created 6 new religions on top of the 3 originals, they are:

1) Judaism 2) Pharaohism 3) Old-Romanism 4) Germanic 5) Britonic and 6) Tribal

Now as you can see these aren't in any way historically accurate but what they help do is create a whole new feel to my game. For example Tribalism (which I created to represent the Celtic form of Paganism) exists in the Isles and Spain (replaced Paganism), while Pharaohism is in deep trouble of being snuffed out in the Egyptian and North African province (since it's such a small relgion confined to just 2 provinces.

Germanic has replaced Paganism in the central European regions with the Saxons, Franks and Alemanni as its main messengers (so to speak). Britonic is a dying religion with no buildings due to the fact that neither the Romans nor Celts would really support it in reality but again was a way of confining the ever present Paganism to just the Steppes. Finally, Old-Romanism replaced paganism in the Roman provinces, again for similar reasons.

I would love to post images of what it looks like because the dynamics of the game really have changed with Christianity much more dominant, Paganism much more restricted and some new ones on the brink of extinction (old-romanism, judaism and pharaohism)

Finally just as a point, I think it's important to add that I essentially removed all religious buildings from the desc_strat file so as to allow the new religious buildings to be constructed and for those religions to possibly flourish - this has meant that each campaign will be interesting in seeing which factions (especially the Germanic tribes - some don't actually convert) will spread the new religions.

Anway, sorry for such a long late post (as this will probably never be read or replied to) - but thanks to the creator of this mod and tutorial. While some of it didn't work for me - it definately gave me the push to keep experimenting and pointed me in the right directions - top geezer!!!

[robbo188]

https://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g...8/Celticus.jpg

and

https://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g...anicSaxons.jpg

show off the new ones mentioned.

Do comment if you want.

[Rockpsl76]

It might be worth mentioning that if you don't want all your UI images to look like roman temples, you need to add images for your new temples in C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\BI\data\ui\{race}\buildings

[Abokasee]

Hey there, I snooped around in the BI files and put some energy into adding a new religion.
By the way: I'm the first how-to for BI ;)

Ok, what I will do in this how-to is add Judaism to the game as a minority religion in the city of Rome, add a synagogue building and create some traits and ancillaries for it. I won't edit most graphics though.
I am no jew, so sorry if I offend anyone with this, I don't know too much alltogether about Judaism, so just drop an answer or send me a PM if you feel offended and tell me what you want changed.

//edit (10/22/05): It seems that newly added religions don't cause unrest or civil order. This is currently being researched, but don't assume that you did something wrong if your newly added religion doesn't make your people feel unhappy ;)

Step one: Get comfortable with data/descr_beliefs.txt
Adding a new faith is a no-brainer. Just copy an existing one

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
judaism
data/ui/pips/pip_religion_judaism_positive.tga
data/ui/pips/pip_religion_judaism_negative.tga
data/ui/pips/pip_religion_judaism.tga
JEWISH_LABEL
JEWISH_UNREST
JEWISH_ORDER

The pips have to be 24-bit TGA files with 16x16 pixels size. The directory information is resolved to the original R:TW base directory, so you have to create a folder called "Rome: Total War/data/ui/" then create a folder called "pips" inside this folder and put the images in there. You can see the images I used for the jewish religion below (you can't see them in the screenshots because this part was discovered by Andreas, big thanks, and I didn't keep my edited files):

(edited 10/25/05)

Step two: Adding the labels to data/text/expanded_bi.txt
Just append the following:

{JEWISH_LABEL}				Judaism
{JEWISH_ORDER}				Judaism is improving public order in this settlement
{JEWISH_UNREST}				Judaism is causing unrest in this settlement

Step three: Giving Rome faith in data/world/maps/campaign/barbarian_invasion/descr_regions.txt
Copy /data/world/maps/base/descr_regions.txt to the campaign folder first.
Then edit the Northern Italy entry:

Northern_Italy
	legion: Italica
	Rome
	empire_west
	Latins
	52 13 198
	pottery, iron, slaves, marble, rome
	5
	7
	christianity 50 pagan 25 judaism 25

As you can see, I weakened the christian majority to 50% and included a strong jewish minority with 25%. This is probably historically inaccurate but what the hell
Also change the Palaestina entry to this (see below):

Palaestina
	legion: Palaestinae
	Jerusalem
	empire_east
	Judaeans
	244 13 29
	olive_oil, wine, slaves, purple_dye, camels, berber, jerusalem
	5
	8
	christianity 95 zoroastrian 5

Don't forget to delete map.rwm in the campaign folder before you start the game ;)

This is basically all there is to it. Read further for an additional account on what else you can do:


Step four: Creating synagogue buildings in data/export_descr_buildings.txt and data/export_descr_buildings_enums.txt
Add the following to data/export_descr_buildings.txt (I made it available to the Romans only as an off. belief):

building temple_synagogue
{
    levels tefilah beit_midrash beit_knesset jewish_temple
    {
        tefilah requires factions { roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                happiness_bonus bonus 1
                religious_belief judaism 1
            }
            construction  1 
            cost  400 
            settlement_min town
            upgrades
            {
                beit_midrash
            }
        }
        beit_midrash requires factions { roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                happiness_bonus bonus 2
                religious_belief judaism 2
		law_bonus bonus 1
            }
            construction  2 
            cost  800 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                beit_knesset
            }
        }
        beit_knesset requires factions { roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                happiness_bonus bonus 3
                religious_belief judaism 3
                law_bonus bonus 2
            }
            construction  3 
            cost  1600 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
                jewish_temple
            }
        }
        jewish_temple requires factions { roman, } and hidden_resource jerusalem
        {
            capability
            {
                happiness_bonus bonus 4
                religious_belief judaism 4
		law_bonus bonus 4
            }
            construction  5 
            cost  3200 
            settlement_min large_city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}

Add the hidden_resource jerusalem at the beginning:

hidden_resources rome britain bosphoran berber slav sughdian

Then add this to data/export_descr_buildings_enums.txt:

tefilah
tefilah_desc
tefilah_desc_short
beit_midrash
beit_midrash_desc
beit_midrash_desc_short
beit_knesset
beit_knesset_desc
beit_knesset_desc_short
jewish_temple
jewish_temple_desc
jewish_temple_desc_short

Step 4.1: Describing the buildings in data/text/export_buildings.txt

{tefilah}	Tefilah

{tefilah_desc}
The Tefilah is the most basic religious building of the Jews. Translated it means "House of Worship", so this is a place for prayer only.

{tefilah_desc_short}
The Tefilah is the basic Jewish religious building.

{beit_midrash}	Beit Midrash

{beit_midrash_desc}
Beit Midrash means "House of Study". This improves the Tefilah with additional rooms to offer learning capabilities.

{beit_midrash_desc_short}
The Beit Midrash is an advanced Jewish religious building adding scholars to your Tefilah.

{beit_knesset}	Beit K'nesset

{beit_knesset_desc}
The Beit K'nesset, more commonly referred to as a "Synagogue", which is just the Greek translation of the name, further enhances the Beit Midrash and is a magnificent place for learning and devotion.

{beit_knesset_desc_short}
The Beit K'nesset is a large Jewish building that provides its city with an advanced religious infrastructure.

{jewish_temple}	Jewish Temple

{jewish_temple_desc}
The Jewish Temple is a uniquely beautiful and marvelous building. It is built similar to the great Temple of Salomo, which was destroyed by Roman forces in 70 AD after the second Jewish rebellion. The Jews belief that it will be rebuilt when the Messiah arrived, thus it is only available in Jerusalem.

{jewish_temple_desc_short}
This is the Temple of Salomo rebuilt, the most advanced religious building available for a Jewish settlement.

Step five: Adding Jewish ancillaries in data/export_descr_ancillaries.txt and data/export_descr_ancillary_enums.txt
In data/export_descr_ancillaries.txt add this:

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary jewish_gabbai
    Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
    ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad
    Description jewish_gabbai_desc
    EffectsDescription jewish_gabbai_effects_desc
    Effect Influence  1 
    Effect Unrest  -1 

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary jewish_rabbi
    Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
    ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad
    Description jewish_rabbi_desc
    EffectsDescription jewish_rabbi_effects_desc
    Effect Squalor  -1 
    Effect Unrest  -1 
    Effect Influence  1 
    Religious_Belief judaism  1

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary jewish_high_priest
    Image roman_official_ancillary.tga
    ExcludeCultures barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad
    Description jewish_high_priest_desc
    EffectsDescription jewish_high_priest_effects_desc
    Effect Influence  3  
    Effect Unrest  -3 
    Religious_Belief judaism  2

And these triggers:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger trigger_jewish_gabbai
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    Condition EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and Trait Jew >= 1
          and SettlementBuildingExists >= tefilah
          and IsGeneral

    AcquireAncillary jewish_gabbai chance  5

;------------------------------------------
Trigger trigger_jewish_rabbi
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    Condition EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and Trait Jew >= 1
          and SettlementBuildingExists >= beit_midrash
          and IsGeneral

    AcquireAncillary jewish_rabbi chance  3

;------------------------------------------
Trigger trigger_jewish_high_priest
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    Condition EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and Trait Jew >= 1
          and SettlementBuildingExists >= tefilah
          and IsGeneral
          and not FactionWideAncillaryExists jewish_high_priest

    AcquireAncillary jewish_high_priest chance  2

Step 5.1: Describing the ancillaries in data/text/export_ancillaries.txt

{jewish_gabbai}	Gabbai

{jewish_gabbai_desc}
A Gabbai is a person with profound knowledge of the lecture of the Torah. He has the honour of reciting or chanting passages of the Torah at religious services.

{jewish_gabbai_effects_desc}
+1 to influence, -1 to unrest

{jewish_rabbi}	Rabbi

{jewish_rabbi_desc}
This is a man who was trained in Jewish religious practice and the lecture of the Torah for long years, as such he is able to teach others parts of his knowledge.

{jewish_rabbi_effects_desc}
+5% Jewish conversion, -1 to squalor, -1 to unrest, +1 to influence

{jewish_high_priest}	Kohein

{jewish_high_priest_desc}
The Kohein are direct descendants of Aaron. They undertake important parts of the religious service in the Jewish temple.

{jewish_high_priest_effects_desc}
+10% Jewish conversion, -3 to unrest, +3 to influence

Step six: Adding the "Jewish" character traits to data/export_descr_character_traits.txt and data/export_descr_VnVs_enums.txt
First add this:

;------------------------------------------
Trait Jew
    Characters all
    AntiTraits Pagan, Zoroastrian, Christian

    Level Jew
        Description Jew_desc
        EffectsDescription Jew_effects_desc
        Threshold  1 

        Religious_Belief judaism  1

Now if you want a satisfying experience, you should search for "Christian" and then "Pagan" and everywhere they appear in AntiTraits, you should add "Jew" to the list (like this:)

;------------------------------------------
Trait Pagan
    Characters all
    AntiTraits Christian, Zoroastrian, Jew

    Level Pagan
        Description Pagan_desc
        EffectsDescription Pagan_effects_desc
        Threshold  1 

        Religious_Belief pagan  1

Then search in the file for "birth_religion_roman_1" and after this trigger insert a new one:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger birth_religion_roman_3
    WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge

    Condition CultureType roman
          and Trait Pagan = 0
          and Trait Christian = 0
          and Trait Zoroastrian = 0

    Affects Jew  1  Chance  10

Now every (born) Roman faction member will have a chance of 10% to become a Jew.
Add to data/export_descr_VnVs_enums.txt

Jew
Jew_desc
Jew_effects_desc

Step 6.1: Describing the trait in data/text/export_VnVs.txt

{Jew}	Jew

{Jew_desc}
This man is a Jew.

{Jew_effects_desc}
+5% Jewish conversion

Step seven: Making a character a Jew and adding a synagogue building in data/world/maps/campaign/barbarian_invasion/descr_strat.txt
I used the WRE faction leader to test these and modified him like this:

character	Valentinianus Flavius, named character, leader, age 62, , x 95, y 71 
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , RomanFactionLeader 1, Jew 1 , Anger 3 , PoliticsSkill 2 , Corrupt 1 , ExpensiveTastes 2 , BadTrader 3 
ancillaries elder_senator, famous_warrior, historian, jewish_gabbai, jewish_rabbi, jewish_high_priest
army
unit		imperial german bodyguard				exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit		comitatenses				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		comitatenses				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		roman priest				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		comitatenses				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		comitatenses				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		comitatenses				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		western archer				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		bucellarii				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		foederati cavalry				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		foederati cavalry				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

Replace the Northern_Italy entry with this:

settlement
{
	level huge_city
	region Northern_Italy

	year_founded 363
	population 50491
	plan_set default_set
	faction_creator empire_west
	building
	{
		type core_building imperial_palace
	}
	building
	{
		type defenses epic_stone_wall
	}
	building
	{
		type barracks city_barracks
	}
	building
	{
		type equestrian hippodrome
	}
	building
	{
		type missiles siege_engineer
	}
	building
	{
		type market great_forum
	}
	building
	{
		type smith foundry
	}
	building
	{
		type port_buildings shipwright
	}
	building
	{
		type health aqueduct
	}
	building
	{
		type hinterland_farms farms+1
	}
	building
	{
		type hinterland_roads paved_roads
	}
	building
	{
		type academic scriptorium
	}
	building
	{
		type amphitheatres great_amphitheatre
	}
	building
	{
		type temple_synagogue beit_knesset
	}
}

Voilà, you have added Judaism to the game.
I think you will be able to figure out the rest yourselves so go ahead
Note, however, that there is a limit of 10 different religions at the maximum, of which you should only use 9 because the tenth pip collides with a text string on the settlement details scroll.

Here are a few screenshots of the in-game result:

bartixanism here I come