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    Clan genealogies made by Asterix and Kagemusha:

    Takeda Clan


    Nobutora (Nobutora) (Shingen) (Katsyori)
    (1493-1573) Shingen Yoshinobu Nobukatsu
    Nobutomo (1521-1573) (1536-1567) (1567-1582)
    (?-1534) Nobushige Nobuchika (Nobumasa)
    (1525-1561) (1541-1582) Masayori
    Nobukado Nobuyuki (?-1582)
    (1529-1582) (?-1564)
    Nobuzane Katsyori
    (?-1575) (1546-1582)
    Nobukore Nobumitsu
    (?-1571) (1553-1582)
    Nobutatsu Harukiyo
    (?-1582) (1557-1582)
    (Nobutomo) Yoshihisa
    Nobumoto (?-?)
    (?-1560) (Nobushige)
    Nobuyori
    (?-?)
    Nobytoyo
    (?-1582)
    Nobumasa
    (?-1575)
    (Nobuzane)
    Nobutoshi
    (?-?)
    (Nobutatsu)
    Nobunari
    (?-1582)
    Yamamoto Yamagata
    Kansuke Masakage--------------------Genshiro
    (?-?) (1524-1575) (?-1582)
    Obata
    Toramori---------------Masamori--------------------Kagenori
    (1505-1561) (1534-1582) (1570-1644)
    Sanada
    Yukitaka---------------------Nobutsuna
    1512-1574) (1537-1575)
    Masateru------------Nobumasa
    (?-1575) (?-?)
    Masayuki----------- Nobuyuki
    (1544-1608) (1566-1658)
    Nobutada------| Yukimura
    (1547-1632) | (1567-1615)
    | Nobukatsu
    | (?-1609)
    | Masachika
    | (1583-1632)
    |------Yukimasa
    (?-?)
    Nobukatsu
    (?-?)



    Uesugi Clan



    Tomooki------------Tomosada
    (1488-1537) (1525-1546)
    Noriyoshi-----------Norikatsu
    (?-?) (?-1575)
    Norimori
    (?-1579)
    Norimasa------------Kenshin------------Kagetora
    (1522-1579) (1530-1578) (1554-1579)
    Yoshiharu Kagekatsu
    (1553-1625) (1555-1623)
    Kagenobu----------Kageharu
    (?-1578) (?-?)
    Retainers
    Nagao
    Tamekage-----------Kagefusa
    (?-1536) (?-?)
    Harukage
    (?-1553)
    Masakage-----------Yoshikage
    (?-1564) (?-?)
    Kageyasu
    (?-1545)
    Kagenao
    (?-?)
    Amakasu
    Kagemoshi---------Kagetsugu
    (?-?) (?-?)
    Ayakawa
    Kionaga-------------Morinaga
    (?-?) (?-?)
    Honjo
    Fusanaga-----------Shigenaga-----------Yorinaga
    (?-?) (1539-1613) (?-?)
    Hidetsuna Yoshikatsu
    (?-?) (?-?)
    Nagafusa
    (?-?)
    Hisanaga
    (?-?)
    Irobe
    Norinaga----------Katsunaga------------Akinaga
    (?-?) (?-1569) (?-1587)
    Nagazane
    (?-1592)
    Kakizaki
    Toshiie-----------Kageie------------------Haruie
    (?-?) (?-1575) (?-1575)
    Noriie
    Usami (?-?)
    Sadamitsu-------Katsuyuki
    (1489-1564) (?-?)




    Hojo Clan




    Ujitsuna-------|-----Ujiasy-------------------Ujimasa--------------------------------------Ujinao
    (1487-1541) | (1515-1571) (1538-1590) (1562-1591)
    | ----Tsunashige--- --| Ujiteru Ujisada
    (1515-1587) | (1539-1590 ) (?-?)
    | Ujikuni Naoshige
    | (1541-1597) (?-?)
    | Ujinori----------------| Ujifusa
    | (1545-1600) | (?-?)
    | Ujitada |-----------------------Ujimori
    | (?-?) (?-?)
    | Ujimitsu
    | (?-?)
    |------Ujishige
    (1536-1578)
    Genan-------------Shinzaburo
    (1493-1589) (?-1561)
    Nagatoshi
    (?-1569)
    Ujitoki
    (?-1534)

    Retainers

    Kasahara
    Nobutame--------Yasukatsu--------------Kagemune
    (?-?) (?-1569) (1533-?)
    Terushige
    Shimizu (?-?)
    Yasuhide Inomata
    (1532-1591) Kujinori
    (?-1590)
    Matsuda
    Yorihide----------------Norihide
    (?-?) (?-1590)
    Yasusada
    (?-?)
    Daidoji
    Shigeoki----------------Masashige---------------------------------------Naoshige
    (?-?) (1533-1590) (?-?)
    Naotsugu
    (?-?)


    Asakura Clan



    Norikage----------Kagetoshi-----------Kagenao
    (1474-1555) (1505-1572) (?-?)
    Takakage---------Yoshikage Kagetake
    (1493-1546) (1533-1573) (?-1575)
    Kagetaka---------Kageakira
    (1495-1543) (1529-1574)
    Kagetsura
    (?-1570)
    Kagetaka
    (?-1570)
    Retainers
    Horie
    Kagezane--------Kagetada-------------Toshishige
    (?-?) (?-1576) (?-1576)
    Kawai
    Yoshimune
    (1521-1573)
    Makara
    Naotaka--------------Naomoto
    (?-1570) (?-1570)
    Meaba
    Yoshitsugu
    (1514-1574)

    Amako Clan



    Tsunehisa----Masahisa------------Haruhisa----------Tomohisa
    (1458-1541) (?-1518) (1514-1562) (?-?)
    Kunihisa------------Masahisa------| Yoshihisa
    (1492-1554) (?-1554) | (1536-1610)
    Okihisa Toyohisa | Hidehisa
    (1497-1534) (?-1546) | (?-?)
    Hisayuki------Akiyuki |----Katsuhisa
    (?-1541) (?-?) (1553-1578)
    Retainers
    Kamei
    Hidetsuna---------Korenori
    (?-?) (1557-1612)
    Kawazoe
    Hisamori
    (?-1567)
    Tachihara
    Hisatsuna
    (1531-1613)
    Ushio
    Yukikiyo
    (?-?)
    Uyama
    Hisahide----------Hisakane
    (?-?) (?-1566)
    Yamanaka
    Mitsuyuki--------Yukimori
    (1519-1546) (1545-1578)
    Honjo
    Tsunemitsu
    (?-1562)
    Megata
    Yukinobu
    (?-1569)
    Wachi
    Masaharu
    (?-1568)
    Yokomichi
    Hyogonosuke
    (?-1570)
    Yonehara
    Heinaizaemon-----Tsunahiro
    (?-?) (?-1613)




    Miyoshi

    (Special thanks to www.samurai-archives.com)

    Clan Hosokawa



    Takakuni Mototsune
    (?-1531) (?-?)

    Ujitsuna Harumoto
    (?-1561) (1519-1563)

    Fujitaka Nobyoshi
    (1534-1610) (?-1615)

    Tadaoki Okimoto Yukitaka Takayuki Masaoki
    (1564-1645) (?-1618) (?-?) (?-?) (1562-1618)

    Tadataka Tadatoshi Okiaki Tatsutaka
    (1580-1646) (1586-1641) (?-1615) (?-?)




    Clan Satomi



    Sanetaka
    (1483-1533)

    Yoshitaka Yoshitoyo
    (1512-1574) (1513-1534)

    Yoshihiro Yoshiyori Takamoto Takamasa Tadahiro
    (1529-1578) (1542-1587) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Yoshiyasu
    (1573-1604)

    Tadayoshi
    (1593-1622)

    Mogami




    Clan Date

    Tanemune
    (1488-1565)

    Harumune Yoshinori Sanemoto Munemoto Harutane Tsunamune
    (1519-1577) (?-?) (1527-1587) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Terumune Masakage Akimitsu Naomune
    (1543-1585) (1549-1607) (1550-1622) (?-?)

    Masamune Shigezane Munetoshi Yoshimune
    (1567-1636) (1568-1646)(?-?) (?-?)

    Hidemune Tadamune Munekiyo Munetsuna Munetaka Munekatsu
    (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Chosokabe





    Clan Asai



    Naomasa Sukemasa
    (?-?) (1495-1546)

    Akimasa Masahiro Hisamasa
    (?-?) (?-?) (1524-1573)

    Nagamasa Masamoto Inori
    (1545-1573) (?-?) (?-1573)

    Manjumaru
    (?-1573)

    Clan Urakami& Ukita




    Urakami Ukita
    Muramune Yoshiie
    (?-1524) (?-1534)

    Urakami Urakami Ukita Ukita
    Munekage Masamune Okiie Shiro
    (?-?) (?-1564) (?-1536) (?-1523)

    Ukita Ukita Ukita
    Naoie Haruie Tadaie
    (1529-1582) (?-?) (?-1609)

    Ukita Ukita
    Hideie Narimasa
    (1572-1662) (?-1616)

    Ukita
    Hidetaka
    (?-?)

    The reason i combined Urakami and Ukita family trees,was that Ukita were former Vassals of Urakami and soon took control of the Urakami domain.

    Clan Ouchi



    Yoshioki Takahiro
    (1477-1528) (?-?)

    Yoshitaka Hirooki Teruhiro
    (1507-1551) (?-?) (?-1569)

    Yoshihiro
    (1545-1551)

    Clan Oda



    Nobusada
    (?-?)

    Nobuhide Nobuyasu Nobumitsu Nobutsugu
    (1510-1551) (?-1542) (?-1555) (?-1574)

    Nobuhiro Nobunaga Nobuyuki Nobukane Nobuharu Hidetaka Nobutoki
    (?-1574) (1534-1582) (?-1558) (1543-1614) (1549-1570) (?-1555) (?-1556)

    Nobuoki Nobuteru Nobumasu Nobutoshi Nobutada Nobuo Nobutaka
    (?-1570) (?-?) (1548-1622) (?-1582) (1557-1582) (1558-1630)(1558-1583)

    Hidekatsu Katsunaga Nobuhide Nobutaka Nobuyoshi Nobusada Nagatsugu
    (1567-1585) (?-1582) (?-?) (?-1602) (1573-1615) (1574-1624) (?-1600)

    Hidenobu Hidenori Hideo Nobuyoshi Takanaga Yoshio Nagao
    (1582-1602) (1581-1625) (1573-1610) (?-1626) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Great thanks for :http://samurai-archives.com/.
    Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.

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    Great stuff Helgi! Im going to start an internet resources thread for you m8!
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    Clan Asai


    Asai Naomasa
    Asai Naotane
    Asai Sukemasa (1495-1546) (son of Naotane) - very good general
    Asai Akimasa (son#1 of Sukemasa)
    Asai Masahiro (son#2 of Sukemasa)

    Asai Hisamasa (1524-1573) (son#3 of Sukemasa) competent enough administrator
    Asai Masamoto (son #2 of Hisamasa)
    Asai Nagamasa (1545 - 1573) (son #1 of Hisamasa)- excellent leader - good against odds too
    Asai Katamasa (alt-1)
    Asai Manjumaru (d.1573 (son of Nagamasa)

    Asai Inori d.1573
    Asai Yoshimasa
    Asai Majumaru
    Asai Tadatoshi
    Asai Manpukumaru (grandson of Hisamasa, but son of???)



    POSSIBLE ASAI (actual descendents of Hisamasa)
    (Saito clan)
    Tatsuoki 1548-1573

    (Oda clan)
    Hidekatsu b.1567

    (Tokugawa clan)
    Iemitsu
    Tadanaga
    Ietsuna
    Tsunashige 1644 1678
    Tsunayoshi
    Ienobu
    Ietsugu

    (Toyotomi clan)
    Hideyori b.1539

    (Maeda clan)
    Mitsutaka
    Toshiharu b.1618
    Toshitsugu

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    i have a different "tangent" of the Ukita family tree,

    this does intersect with yours, but then diverges again,

    may be helpful (i used your Tangent to flesh out my list)

    ojima Takanori (Founder)
    (decended from Miyaki family)
    ((Ukita Takanori))

    Ukita Muneie
    Ukita Munie (alt)
    Ukita Hisaie (son of Muneie)

    Ukita Yoshie d.1534 (son of hisaie)
    Ukita Yoshiie (alt)

    Ukita Okiie d.1536 (son of yoshie)


    Ukita Naoie 1530-1582 (son of Okiie)
    Hachirou Naoie (alt)

    Ukita Haruie (son of Okiie)
    Ukita Hauie (alt)

    Ukita Tadaie (son of Okiie)

    Ukita Hideie 1572-1655 (son of Naoie??)
    Ukita Hidiie (alt)
    Hachirou Hideie (alt)

    Ukita Motoie (artist) (G-grandson of Toshiie)

    Ukita Hidetaka (GG-grandson of Toshiie)

    Ukita Hachirou (alt of ??)


    need retainers?? allies??
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    NOTE:- with all these lists (families, allies and retainers) they are not finalised,
    i still have resources that i am reading through
    FURTHER in all my lists the clan a character first appears in the histories working for, is the clan he is in.

    NOTE:- retainers and allies include mostly real characters, but some from "suspect" historical sources are included,
    "suspect historical sources" that means family legends, stories, letters and the like
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    Chosokabe

    this is an interesting one,
    you will note there are many ways to spell the name
    NOTE:- as with all my lists and (alt) name means also-known-as

    Chosokabe Kanetsugu
    Chosokabe Kunichika Lived 1504 to 1560 FEARLESS
    Chosokabe Motochika Lived 1538 to 1599 FEARLESS (son of kunichika)
    Chosokabe Kunai no sho (title)
    Chosokabe Motoshika (alt-2)
    Chosokabe Himewakako (nickname - means young princess)

    Chosokabe Chikayasu 1543-1593 (son of kunichika) (alt as kosokabe) a diplomat and soldier

    Chosokabe Chikauji (d.1592) (son of chikayasu) (alt as kosokabe)
    Chosokabe Sadachika (son of chikayasu) (alt as kosokabe)

    Chosokabe Chikasada 1541-1576 (son of kunichika) (alt as Kira...)
    Chosokabe Chikazane (son of Chikasada) (alt as Kira...)
    Chosokabe Chikamasu
    Chosokabe Nobuchika 1565-1587 (son of motochika)
    Chosokabe Yasaburo (alt)

    Chosokabe Chikakazu d.1587 (son of motochika)
    Chosokabe Chikatada d.1600
    Chosokabe Magojiro (alt)
    Chosokabe Yasutoyo

    Chosokabe Morichika Lived 1575 to 1615 (son of motochika) Great Leader
    Chosokabe Murichika (alt)
    Chosokabe Gunaishosuke (title)

    Chosokabe Moritaka d.1615
    Chosokabe Morinobu d.1615
    Chosokabe Moriyasu d.1615

    Chosokabe Chikatake d.1589
    Chosokabe Kuniyasu
    Chosokabe Chikazane

    Chosokabe Morishige (very late 1500's)




    (alt names of heirs)
    Kira Chikasada
    Kira Chikazane 1563-1588 (son of Chikasada) hot-tempered and combative
    Kira Chikazane d.1600 (?? maybe a cousin?)
    Shima Chikamasu
    Kagawa Chikakazu
    Tsuno Chikatada
    Tsuno Magojiro
    Yoshida Yasutoyo
    Tonami Chikatake


    Kosokabe Chikayasu 1543-1593
    Kousokabe Chikayasu

    Kosokabe Chikauji (d.1592) (son of chikayasu)
    Kousokabe Chikauji

    Kosokabe Sadachika (son of chikayasu)
    Kousokabe Sadachika

    Chyosokabe Kunichika
    Chyosokabe Nobuchika
    Chyosokabe Motochika
    Chyosokabe Morichika

    and as always,
    allies or retainers,
    pm me
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    Date clan

    PRIME LIST
    Date Tanemune 1488-1565 (founder)
    Date Harumune 1519 to 1577/8 (son of Tanemune)
    Date Yoshinori (son of Tanemune)
    Date Munemoto (son of Tanemune)
    Date Harutane (son of Tanemune)

    Date Tsunamune (son of Tanemune)
    Date Sanemoto 1527-1587 (son of Tanemune)
    Date Shigezane 1568 to 1646. (son of Sanemoto)
    Date Togoro (alt)
    Date Terumune 1543 to 1585. (son of Haramune)

    Date Masakage (son of Haramune)
    Date Munetoshi (son of Masakage)
    Date Munetsuna (son of Masakage (2 munetsuna's))
    Date Akimitsu (son of Haramune)
    Date Yoshimune (son of Akimitsu)
    Date Naomune (son of Haramune)

    Date Masamune 1567 to 1636 (son of Terumune) Brilliant General
    Date Bontenmaru (alt)
    Date Hidemune (son of Masamune)
    Date Tadamune Died 1658. (son of Masamune)
    Date Munekiyo (son of Masamune)

    Date Munetsuna (son of Masamune (2 munetsuna's))
    Date Munetaka (son of Masamune)
    Date Munekatsu (son of Masamune)
    Date Munenari Lived 1 Aug. 1818 to 20 Dec. 1892
    Date Muneki (alt)

    Tojiro Masamune (alt-2 for Date Masamune)

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

    Adopted In (original clan names)

    Osaki Yoshinori
    Kasai Harutane
    Rusu Masakage (b.early 1500's)

    Ishikawa Harumitsu (NOT date member)
    Ishikawa Akimitsu 1550-1622 (date)
    Ishikawa Jiro (alt)
    Ishikawa Yoshimune (date)

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

    Adopted OUT

    Tamura Muneyoshi (1637-1678)
    Tamura Tateaki (1656-1708)
    Tamura Akihiro (1659-1696)
    Tamura Akinao (1662-1706)
    Tamura Akinori (1664-1733)
    Tamura Haruchiyo (1686-1693)
    Tamura Nobuaki (1703-1725)
    Tamura Muranobu (1723-1777)

    Shiraishi Gorokichi (1638-1644)

    Uesugi Yoshifusa (1720-1742)
    Uesugi Yoshitoki (1742-1784)
    Uesugi Yoshinaga (?-?)
    Uesugi Yositatsu (?-?)
    Uesugi Yoshimasa (?-?)
    Usesugi Yoshitoyo (?-1861)


    ///////////////////////////////////////////////
    NOT YET CORROLATED WITH PRIME LIST
    14th Century
    Date Muneto (1324-1385)
    Date Masamune (1353-1405)
    Date Ujimune (1371-1412)
    Date Mochimune (1393-1469)

    15th Century
    Date Narimune (1435-1487?)
    Date Hisamune (1453-1514)
    Date Uemune (1488-1565)

    16th Century
    Date Harumune (1519-1577)
    Date Akimitsu 1550-1622(son-of-harumune)(adopted out into Ishikawa)
    Date Jiro (alt)
    Date Terumune (1544-1585)
    Date Masamune (1567-1636)
    Date Masamichi (1578-1590) His name is questionable as he probably had not gone through genpuku.
    Date Hidemune (1591-1658)
    Date Tadamune (1599-1658)
    Date Shuyu (15??-1642)

    17th Century
    Date Munetsuna (1603-1618)
    Date Munenobu (1603-1627)
    Date Munehiro (1612-1644)
    Date Munetoki (1615-1653)
    Date Torachiyomaru (1624-1630)
    Date Munetoshi (1625-1678)
    Date Mitsumune (1627-1645)
    Date Munetosi (1634-1708)
    Date Munezumi (1636-1708)
    Date Sourin (1640-1670)
    Date Tsunamune (1640-1711)
    Date Munefusa (1646-1686)
    Date Tsunamura (1659-1719)
    Date Munenori (1673-1694)
    Date Yoshimura (1680-1751)
    Date Muratoyo (1682-1737)
    Date Muraoki (1683-1767)
    Date Muranari (1686-1726)
    Date Murasen (1698-1744)
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

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    Satomi clan

    again our lists intersect and then diverge,
    this is proving most illuminating


    Satomi Yoshishige (d.1202)
    Satomi Yoshitoshi (son of yoshishige)

    Satomi Shigeyoshi 1448-1505
    Satomi Yoshimichi 1480-1518 (son of shigeyoshi)
    Satomi Sanetaka 1483-1533 (son of shigeyoshi)

    Satomi Yoshitaka (1512-1574) (son of sanetaka)

    Satomi Yoshitoyo 1513-1534 (son of Yoshimichi)

    Satomi Yoshihiro 1529-1578 (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Yoshiyori 1542?-1587 (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Takamoto (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Takamasa (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Tadahiro (son of yoshitaka)

    Satomi Yoshiyasu 1573-1604 (son of yoshiyori)

    Satomi Tadayoshi (1593-1622) (son of yoshiyasu)

    Satomi Suemoto
    Satomi Yoshizane
    Satomi Yoshinari

    allies/retaineers - you know the drill
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    Thanks Barocca Sama! Glad to see you back. It seems that becouse of the limitations of game engine.It will be hard to script all the characters to born on right time set.But more historicall names to the name pool than better.Btw did you find many names of women when you studied these genealogies?It seems the mentions of the wifes names are pretty scarce.
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    wives/concubines are scarce,
    unfortuntely i did not keep a note of who was who,
    merely made a list of possible princess names - my mod is for the Medieval engine

    I am really looking forward to your Mod for the Rome engine,

    did you ask Duke John if he has any resources, names, artwork etc that he is willing to donate to the cause??



    Amako/Amago
    this is a clan i was not going to include in the first release of Samurai for MTW,
    but maybe in an update,

    i am posting the whole list, clan, alt name for clan, reainers and allies because Amako/Amago were a very tight knit and loyal group
    (which is why the defection of Honjo Tsunemitsu made the "news", so to speak)


    Amako and Amago
    the difference's in dates between the versions of the names cannot be explained but i am 100% confident that they ARE the same people,

    Rokkaku Takauji (ancestor)

    Amako Takahisa (founder)
    Amako Mochihisa
    Amako Kiyosada d.1487
    Amako Tsunehisa (1458-1541) = A noted strategist and competent ruler
    Amako Mimbu-shôsuke (alt-1)

    Amako Hisayuki d.1541
    Amako Akiyuki (son Hisayuki)
    Amako Masahisa d.1518
    Amako Okihisa (? - 1534) - good general
    Amako Genshirô (alt)

    Amako Kunihisa 1492-1554 - good general
    Amako Magoshirô (alt-1)
    Amako Akihisa (1514 - 1562)
    Amako Haruhisa 1514-1562 (alt)
    Amako no Masahisa d.1554

    Amako Yoshihisa (1536-1610)
    Amako Katsuhisa (d. 1578)
    Amako Toyohisa d.1546
    Amako Hidehisa
    Amako Tomohisa

    Amako Yoshihisa 1536-1610
    Amako Katsuhige (grandson of Kunihisa)

    == ==
    Amago Takahisa (founder)
    Amago Mochihisa
    Amago Kiyosada (14??-1487)
    Amago Tsunehisa (1458-1541)
    Amago Hisayuki (14??-1541)

    Amago Masahisa (1488-1513)
    Amago Okihisa (1497-1534)
    Amago Kunihisa (14??-1554)
    Amago Haruhisa (1514-1560)
    Amago Akihisa (alt)

    Amago Yoshihisa (1540)-1610)
    Amago no Masahisa (14??-1554)
    Amago Katsuhisa (14??-1554)
    Amago Toyohisa d.1546
    Amago Hidehisa

    Amago Tomohisa
    Amago Yoshihisa 1536-1610


    Retainers and Vassal Families
    Kamei, Tako, Kawazoe, Ushio
    Sase, Uyama, Tachihara, Yamanaka


    men who "could" have become Amako Daimyo
    Kamei Korenori (1557-1612)
    Kamei Masanori (son of korenori)
    Yamanaka Shikanosuke - 1545-1578 A natural fighter
    Yamanaka Yukimori (alt-1)

    Kawazoe Hisamori d. before 1567 diplomatic
    Kawazoe Mimasaka (alt)

    Megata Yukinobu d.1569
    Megata Shimbei (alt)


    Yamanaka Mitsuyuki (1519?-1546)
    Kamei Niiwanori
    Kamei Hidetsuna (15??-15??)


    Men of Note
    Enya Okihisa (? - 1534)
    Enya Genshirô (alt)

    Honjo Tsunemitsu d.1562 (bribed?defected?)
    Tako Tadashige
    Tako Tokitaka (1494-1562)
    Akana Hisakiyo (1528-15??)
    Tachihara Hisatsuna (1531-1613)

    Misawa Tamekiyo (1537-1588)
    Honjo Tsunemitsu (15??-1562)
    Uyama Hisakane (15??-1566)
    Oki Tamekiyo (15??-1569)
    Jinzai Motomichi (15??-1578)

    Mitoya Hisasuke (15??-1591)
    Kawazoe Hisamori (15??-15??)
    Maki Tomochika (15??-15??)
    Yonehara Tsunehiro (15??-1613)
    Daizai Takayoshi (15??-16??)

    Kumano Hisatada (15??-16??)
    Matsuda Masayasu (15??-16??)
    Sase Kiyomune (15??-16??)
    Ushio Yukikiyo (15??-16??)
    Ago Katsuhisa

    Hirano Hisatoshi
    Honda Huzennokami
    Kumagaya Sinuemon
    Moriwaki Ichimasa
    Nakai Hisaie

    Ogasawara Nagao
    Yuhara Munetsune
    Uyama Hisakane
    Uyama Hisanobu
    Moriyama Hisakane


    These samurai were called Amago 10 Yushi
    Yamanaka Yukimori (1544-1578)
    Akiage Iorinosuke (15??-15??)
    Yokoji Hyogonosuke (15??-1570)
    Ueda Saenosuke
    Teramoto Seishinosuke
    Motomo Dorinosuke
    Kogura Nezuminosuke
    Fukada Doronosuke
    Hayakawa Ayunosuke
    Yabunaka Ibaranosuke

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    Hojo

    there were two Hojo clans,

    one in the 1100's,

    and the contemporary (for the mod) Go-Hojo

    this is Go-Hojo

    Ise Morisada (father of hojo soun)

    Hojo Soun 1432 - 1519 - political and military skill, a gifted administrator
    Hojo Nagauji (alt-1)
    Hojo Shinkuro (alt-2)
    Hojo Shozui (alt-3)



    Hojo Ujitsuna 1487-1541 - popular with people and priests (son of soun)
    Hojo Ujitoki d.1534 (son of soun)
    Hojo Shinrokuro (alt)
    Hojo Nagatsuna 1493?-1589 (son of soun)
    Hojo Genan (alt-1)
    Hojo Gen'an (alt-2)
    Hojo Ujiyasu 1515-1571 - very good administrator - lowered taxes (son of Ujitsuna)
    Hojo Tsunashige (son of Ujitsuna) very early 1500's


    Hojo Tsunashige d.1569 (son of Nagatsuna)
    Hojo Shinzaburo d. 1561
    Hojo Nagatoshi (d.1569) (son of Nagatsuna)


    Hojo Ujimasa (1538-1590) (son of Ujiyasu)
    Hojo Ujiteru (1539-1590) (son of Ujiyasu)
    Hojo Oishi (alt-1)
    Oishi Ujiteru (alt-2)
    Hojo Ujikuni (1541-1597) (son of Ujiyasu)
    Hojo Fujita (alt-1)
    Fujita Ujikuni (alt-2)
    Hojo Ujinori (1545-1600) (son of Ujiyasu)
    Hojo Ujitada (son of Ujiyasu)
    Hojo Ujimitsu (son of Ujiyasu)
    Hojo Kagetora (1552-1579) (son of Ujiyasu)
    Hojo Ujihide (alt)

    Hojo Ujinao 1562-1591 (son of Ujimasa)
    Hojo Ujisada (son of Ujimasa)
    Hojo Naoshige (son of Ujimasa)
    Hojo Ujifusa (son of Ujimasa)
    Hojo Ota (alt-1)
    Ota Ujifusa (alt-2)

    Hojo Ujimori 1577 18 May 1608 (son of Ujinori)


    Hojo Tsunashige 1515-1587
    Hojo Tsunanari (alt)
    Hojo Ujishige 1536-1578 (son of tsunashige)
    Hojo Ujikatsu

    Hojo Yajiro

    Hojo Nagauji late 1400's
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    Asakura clan

    Asakura home province Echizen(sengoku early)
    or Tajima(heian late)

    Asakura Toshikage Died 1475? Lived 1428-1481? excellent general
    Asakura Takakage (alt)
    Asakura Ujikage d.1486
    Asakura Kageyoshi
    Asakura Kagetoshi (alt)

    Asakura Norikage Lived 1474 to 1552 the most talented general the Asakura clan produced

    Asakura Soteki (alt-1)
    Asakura Kotaro (alt-2)
    Asakura Sadakage Lived 1473 to 1512
    Asakura no Kagetoshi 1505-1572
    Asakura no Takakage Lived 1493 to 1546

    Asakura Kagetaka 1495-1543 excellent diplomat
    Asakura Kagetake (alt)
    Asakura on Kagetoshi
    Asakura Kagenao
    Asakura Yoshikage Lived 24 Sept. 1533 to 20 Aug. 1573.

    Asakura Yoshikaga (alt)

    Asakura Kageakira Lived 1529 to 1574
    Asakura Kagetsura d.1570 excellent diplomat
    Asakura Kagefusa
    Asakura no Kagetaka d.1570?
    Asakura no Kagetake d.1575

    Asakura Hirokage
    Asakura Nobumasa Lived 1583 to 1637
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    Quote Originally Posted by barocca
    wives/concubines are scarce,
    unfortuntely i did not keep a note of who was who,
    merely made a list of possible princess names - my mod is for the Medieval engine

    I am really looking forward to your Mod for the Rome engine,

    did you ask Duke John if he has any resources, names, artwork etc that he is willing to donate to the cause??
    That is unfortunate about the women,but we if you have a list of the Women names which you gathered for the princesses it would help us a great deal.I think you guys have been doing great job with the Samurai mod. We have talked pretty much with R´as during previous months mostly via PM.It seems i have to reinstall MTW to see it on my PC.We have most of the material of Sengoku Jidai mod,that DJ passed to Prometheus and there are also some same people in the team like Tomte Of Doom.
    Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.

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    Mogami clan

    Shiba Kaneyori
    Shiba Kizaemon

    Shiba Iekane
    Mogami Kaneyori (son of Iekane)
    Mogami Yamagata (alt)

    Shiba Yorinao (son of Shiba Iekane - ?? possible)
    Tendo Yorinao (changed name)
    Tendo Yorinaga (son of Tendo Yorinao - ?? possible)
    Tendo Yorihisa (son of ??)

    Mogami Yoshimori (1521-1590)
    Mogami Yoshiakira 1546-1614 (son of yoshimori) - great warrior
    Mogami Yoshiaki (alt-1) - great leader
    Mogami Ukyodaibu (alt-2)
    Mogami Yoshikaira (alt-3)

    Mogami Yoshitoki (son of yoshimori)
    Mogami Yoshihia (son of yoshimori)
    Mogami Yoshihisa (alt)
    Mogami Yoshiyasu (son of yoshimori)


    Mogami Yoshiyasu (son of Yoshikiara)
    Mogami Iechika 1582-1617 (son of Yoshikiara)
    Mogami Suruga (alt)
    Mogami Yoshitada (son of Yoshikiara)

    Mogami Yoshitoshi (son of iechika)


    Mogami Yoshimitsu
    Mogami Kenichiro
    Mogami Hisao
    Mogami Takehito
    Mogami Yoshinobu
    Mogami Hirotaka


    the Tendo were Mogami retainers,
    ALSO this dude
    Nobesawa Mitsunobu 1544-1591

    and thats as far as i got with Mogami



    I am still sorting names for all the clans in my mod,
    (and will be doing so slowly for a while yet)
    the others i either have no further information on, or you seem to have a large enough list.

    I will, however, be happy to send you a list of everything when i finish, but it may be some time - like a couple of months at the least, going through these names is very tedious if i want to avoid duplication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    .We have most of the material of Sengoku Jidai mod,that DJ passed to Prometheus and there are also some same people in the team like Tomte Of Doom.
    i am SO relieved,
    when i heard he left the project i was worried that all that teams hard work had gone down the drain,
    I am so very glad you have it.
    B.

    here's the girls names, (not checked for duplicates)
    there was one mythological name i liked (i marked it)

    Tsubone
    O-ichi d.1583
    Odai (alt-1)
    Odani (alt-2)
    Hideko
    Fumiko, d.1541
    Komahime
    Naga, 1574-1623
    Chiyo
    Ne-hime 1599 3 Jul 1622
    Senhime 1597 1666
    Kazuko
    Furihime 1580 1617
    Ichihime
    Kamehime
    Oboin
    Koihime
    Shimoyama
    Kenshou
    Kikuhime
    Matsuhime
    Oubaiin
    Sadae
    Tokuhime
    Fuyuhime
    Nouhime
    Shin
    Myoukyuu
    Jufukuin
    Gyokusen
    Tama
    Hoshun
    Gou
    Kazuko
    Oeyo
    Hatsu
    Ujihime
    Joukou
    Houshun
    Joushin
    Tokiko
    Sadae
    Sanjo
    Kitsuno
    Aoyagi (myth)
    Otohime
    Ohime
    Kesa
    Sen
    Tenshu
    Yodo
    Kakusan
    Wakasa
    Noriko
    Katsu
    Okatsu
    O-eyo
    Senhime or Princess Sen
    Fumeko (d.1641)
    Yodo
    Oyuki
    Okuni
    Shikibu
    Shibuki
    Oryo
    Aya
    Eiko
    Kaeda
    Shigeko
    Oima
    Tomiko
    Omiko
    Kikomi
    Kounomae
    Otatsu
    Masako
    Shizuka
    Matsu
    Nene
    Matsu-no-maru
    Yodo
    Seki
    Chiyo
    Go
    Ma'a
    Tama
    Kou
    Sho
    Yome
    Kii
    Sai
    Gracia
    Iwa
    Ari
    Achiyo
    Okowa
    Himiko
    Pimiko
    Chikako
    Shikibu
    Taka
    Koyuki
    Gio
    Hotoke
    Sanjo
    Yoko
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    and yes, Samurai has become an overwrite mod,
    (beta 5 and 6 were X-packs)

    this allows us to change voices and interface,

    to use proper banners and symbols and to include more original units,
    plus a couple more units i am building,

    also we have a huge selection of models from shoggy, new skins for a ton of the MTW-VI models, plus i expanded the terrain models with new skins as well.

    we also have a reasonable cherry tree in early bloom :-)

    cant have a Shogun/Samurai mod without a cherry tree in bloom...

    cheers,
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    Thanks!About how we did our research it was made narrowing it to the people that were alive in 1524-1600. Now it seems possible that we will expand our timeline to 1615(to the end of Osaka Summer campaign).So i will go through yours and our genealogies to perfect the name pools.Thanks again Barocca.This will help us a lot.
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    lots of children who died very young were rarely mentioned at all,
    also the Japanese have the same habits as everyone else,
    naming children after ancestors,

    so you could easily use names from either side of your chosen period to represent those who died young and were never given a chance to make their mark in history.
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    Yes you are right.Also the cross adoptions will make hard to determine who to put in whos family tree.But the good thing is that we are just basicly starting with Historicall situation,then its the players job to start changing history.
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    In my amateur studies, the name evolutions make me a bit crazy.

    For example all below refer to the same person.

    Hiyoshimaru
    Tokachiro
    Kinoshita Hideyoshi
    Hashiba Hideyoshi
    Toyotomi Hideyoshi

    And Hideyoshi was a name he created himself. No family tree

    Somewhere I read that at least three names (different stages of life) was pretty much customary. Though I don’t remember where I read it.


    Some links you may find of interest (if you haven’t seen them already).

    http://areciboweb.50megs.com/fotw/flags/jp-kuni.html

    http://www.samurai-archives.com/warrior.html
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    while the names don't belong to a family tree, they are often taken as characters from samurai families that adopt them.

    for instance, the name Hideyoshi came from the names Nagahide and Yoshinari. Also, daimyo's would sometimes give out part of their name as a reward to officers of exceptional bravery, loyalty, or performance. Therefore to create random names you could take part of the name of the head of the family (the Ie of Ieyasu for instance) and combine it with the name of one of his primary retainers (Tadakatsu for instance) to create Ietada.

    As for the list of female names, the only problem is that some of those names were warrior names. Often a warrior woman-turned-wife would be given a second, more appropriate name upon marriage. However, most people will never notice the difference so it should be okay to use ^^

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    oops, sorry again to doublepost but I forgot to mention. I didn't see them listed so be sure not to forget the Matsudaira line of the Tokugawa family. there are two seperate lines, one before Ieyasu, and a branch family afterwards

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    To be honest with you, if you want a VERY good representation of some of the major clan's family trees from 1550-1600, check out Nobunaga's Ambition: Rise to Power, it has lifespans and information on over 600 figures from the time period.

    Also, in the Azai genealogy, the two sons of Nagamasa, Manpukumaru and Manjumaru, are just childhood names. Had they lived to see adulthood, they more probably than not would have names involving the "Masa" character.

    If anyone has any questions about anything in the period, feel free to contact me, I'm very interested in it, and am always looking up new information about it.

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