Europa Barbarorum Bibliography

[HamilcarBarca]

Sherwin-White and Kuhrt's From Samarkhand to Sardis (best on Seleukids)

Amazon is charging $1,200.00 for this book! Can you believe that!

Its a scandal!

H.

[Strategy]

Amazon is charging $1,200.00 for this book! Can you believe that!

Its a scandal!

I'm happy I have it then.

[Tarkus]

Pardon me, if this has asked before..

Some Quotes in the game come from a source called "Cycle of Telam".

I am very interested in history of the acient world, but i´ve never heard about it.

Can someone please tell me, is this a book? Where can i read more about it?

Edit:
Never mind, i got it

I assume you checked this thread:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ighlight=Telam

So what's your conclusion?

[Senatus Populusque Romanus]

Surely you read a lot of books :)

[cmacq]

I had to actually dig these up out of my library. I relocated two online. I didn't see these above? All very hardcore history and archaeology, hope they help.

The Celts
Edited by Sabatino Moscati, Otto Hermann Frey, Venceslas Kruta, Barry Raftery, Miklós Szabó 1991.
http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=62941063

Celts and the Classical World
David Rankin 1996.
http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=103475919

Gallia Narbonensis: Southern Gaul in Roman Times
A.L.F. Rivet 1990.
sorry no link

I've a number of German, French, and Italian titles on same subject, if you like, as well?

The Role of Metals in Ancient Greek History
Michail Yu Treister 1996.
http://books.google.com/books?id=dcT...9STk#PPA185,M1

The Macedonian Empire: The Era of Warfare Under Philip II and Alexander the Great 359-323 BC.
James R. Ashley 1998.
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&...EyYpTO0nXpzv8o

Philip II and Alexander the Great
Edmund M. Burke in Military Affairs, Vol. 47, No. 2 (Apr., 1983), pp. 67-70
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=002...OR-enlargePage

The Ars Tactica of Arrian: Tradition and Originality
Philip A. Stadter in Classical Philology, Vol. 73, No. 2 (Apr., 1978), pp. 117-128
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=000...OR-enlargePage

Found these works online as well.

Quintus Curtius Rufus -Historiae Alexandri Magni
http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Histor...egis_Macedonum
Marcus Iunianius Iustinus -Epitoma Historiarum Philippicarum
http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Histor...rum_libri_XLIV

[CirdanDharix]

I'm somewhat surprised not to see Alexander to Actium (Peter Green, 1990) in the bibliography. It's not the best or most detailed book, but it remains a fair general overview of the period. By the way, it's Social and Economic History of the Hellenistic World, not Social and Economic History of the Greek World, that Rostovtzeff wrote (sorry for the nitpick).

For Carthage, Hannibal (Serge Lancel--translated into English 1998 http://www.amazon.com/Hannibal-Serge.../dp/0631206310 ) is a good account of Hannibal's life and the context in which he lived.

[oudysseos]

Sorry have not updated recently, waiting for baby to be born next week. Will include all recent posts soon I promise. Happy New Year.

[Disciple of Tacitus]

This is a wonderful thread. I appreciate everyone's contributions. Good luck with all things small and screaming, Oudysseos.

[Anakuj]

Congratulations to your baby, Oudysseos!!!

[Tarkus]

Congrats on the new family addition, Oudysseos!! As father of twins, I have felt your pain...

[The Wandering Scholar]

Phew, i'm needing some new reading material.

[oudysseos]

First post updated.

Re: JSTOR- I haven't included some of cmacqs suggestions as not everybody has access to JSTOR resources (unfortunately).

@CirdanDarhix- both those books have been on the list for a long time and are well worth reading.

About the new section: Podcasts!! Check these out, some of them are great. If ye know of any other good pod- or webcasts let me know. iTunes U in particular is a great resource for all kinds of learning.

Sorry I haven't been keeping this current. Changing lots of nappies recently.

[Sarkiss]

Sorry I haven't been keeping this current. Changing lots of nappies recently.

congrats.
EDIT: Podcasts rock, thanks!

[V.T. Marvin]

Maybe it is already well-known, but for me it is a newly discovered amazing new world - THE GOOGLE BOOKS!!!

Just to give a few examples of not-so-much-cut-down books relevant to EB timeframe:

Shadows in the Desert: Ancient Persia at War by Kaveh Farrokh (2007)
http://books.google.com/books?id=p7kltwf9yrwC&hl=cs

Ancient Persia: From 550 BC to 650 AD by Josef Wiesehöfer (1996)
http://books.google.com/books?id=yFocMaM49SgC&hl=cs

With Arrow, Sword, and Spear: A History of Warfare in the Ancient World by Alfred S. Bradford (2000)
http://books.google.com/books?id=dY86rHCI1I8C&hl=cs

Besieged: Siege Warfare in the Ancient World by Duncan B. Campbell
http://books.google.com/books?id=JuK01ghSbm4C&hl=cs

and many many others

[I Am Herenow]

Ach, I was going to suggest The History of Rome and 12 Byzantine Rulers but someone beat me to it! Can I just add, though, that The History of Rome really is an excellent podcast and the only one at the moment whose episodes I will listen to as soon as they come out. Also, 12 Byzantine Rulers has its own reading list, which is given in the last episode, although I suppose its contents are not wholly appropriate for an EB bibliography.

[oudysseos]

First Post Updated.

VT Marvin- I linked to Google Books, but didn't list your selections. This is really meant to be a bibliography of actual, physical books that people have actually read, and not an exhaustive list of all available online resources. I know that I have blurred the boundaries somewhat with the podcasts et cetera.

Sarkiss- Thanks for the books on Armenia. We're still very light on Pontus, anybody?

The first post is getting very long. Any suggestions on how to make it more manageable? An I hope that this thread has been useful.

PS At risk of a big ole can o worms being opened... http://www.maryjones.us/ctexts/index.html is an excellent link for anyone interested in the whole Cycle of Telam controversy.

[Strategos Alexandros]

Does anybody know where I could get hold of a copy of The Cambridge History of the Classical World vol 7? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

[Sarkiss]

We're still very light on Pontus, anybody?

actuall, not so long ago i read a book on Mithridates Eupator written by a Soviet scholar... it is in Russian though... not sure if there is English translation at all.

[oudysseos]

http://www.cambridge.org/uk/browse/b...jectid=1009088

That's the source for the Cambridge History. A full set costs €1000 or more. Most big universities have copies in their libraries, and the better municipal libraries will have one too. Good luck.

[Strategos Alexandros]

Thanks.

[Disciple of Tacitus]

Tacitus is very sad, b/c he just noticed that there is no Iberian section.



That's a tear drop, not a sweatdrop. I have very little to put on the list and my study is under renovation, so my books are everywhere. And we all know how quickly D.I.Y. projects go.

[oudysseos]

Good point. Nobody has suggested any Iberian faction specific books. If I run across any I'll put them up.

[fenix3279]

Sorry for the necro post but this has been a very interesting topic. I've been searching for books in my local library about the ancient celts. Over there, I've seen most of the suggested books all of you posted on the forums but there are too many choices to choose from. I don't read alot of books regarding ancient history so I need something that a "beginner" can still delve into without feeling too overewhelmed. Of course, I would like it to be equally informative as well as fun to read. I was leaning toward The Ancient Celts by Barry Cunliffe. Any other suggestions?

[oudysseos]

@ Defiant- The Cunliffe books (he has written a few) are all good, as is the Peter Beresford Ellis book listed, and both should be readily available in a good public library. Also, try

The Historical Atlas of the Celtic World, John Haywood- Stretches to modern times but half the book is pertinent to the EB time frame. Good maps.

I can also recommend;

Ancient Cyprus, Veronica Tatton-Brown- A publication of the British Museum

Cleopatra, Ernle Bradford- Begins with a concise and informative overview of the Ptolemies, and includes the most interesting analysis of Caesar's character I have ever seen. Made me think.

The Nature of Alexander the Great, Mary Renault- The Grandmother of Classical Historical Fiction gives her non-fic opinion of Al. Well written and also provides a glimpse behind the scenes of her famous trilogy.


Still nothing this end about the Lusotanann. But as an added bonus, I found ER Bevan's The House of Ptolemy as a hyper-text online book. It might be the only way this essential classic is accessible to most EBers. Enjoy.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...VHOP/home.html

First post updated.

[fenix3279]

Awesome. Thanks for all the suggestions

[fenix3279]

Also, while I was at my library, I saw this book while I was searching for The Ancient Celts by Barry Cunliffe. It's called The Celts by Gerhard Herm. I'm not familiar with this. Anyone else know anything about the book or the author?

[Theodotos I]

I just finished reading J.E. Lendon’s 2005 book entitled Soldiers and Ghosts: A History of Battle in Classical Antiquity and found it quite a fascinating read. As he says in the author’s notes, it is a book about Why—why things changed when and where they did. Whether his conclusions are accurate, I have no idea. Did find a touch of humor in his account of the Spartan hoplites at the Battle of Lechaeum and their reaction to the peltasts deployed by Iphicrates. Their (disastrous) tactics are exactly the same as those used by the RTW AI whenever it’s confronted by skirmishers or horse archers or whatever! Anyway, I may have figured out where CA got it’s inspiration. I noticed it was in the bibliography but would be interested to hear any opinions of the book.

[oudysseos]

Soldiers and Ghostsis totally an excellent book. I sometimes think that it together with Wees' Greek Warfare: Myths and Realities should be required reading before posting anything about the technical aspects of hellenistic battle .

A couple of books that are worth reading but slightly off the EB timeframe, so I won't put them in the first post.

The Golden Age of Persia Richard Frye. Only the first third deals with Achaemenid, Seleucid and Arsacid Persia and the rest is the Sassies and Islam, but it's great to get a non-Greco-Roman view of the area.

The Triumph of the West JM Roberts. Again, covers a much broader period than EB, but the first few chapters provides a litttle perspective on some of the reasons that Greco-Roman civilization was so successful. This is not a 'West is Best' book at all.

Helen of Troy Bettany Hughes. If the EB timeframe was a thousand years earlier then this book would be your one-stop-shop for info on the late bronze age. Engrossing.

[Power2the1]

Just wanted to add a few more

Celt and Greek by Peter B. Ellis
Celt and Roman by Peter B. Ellis
The Celts A History by Daithi O' Hogain
Celtic Warriors:The armies of one of the first great peoples in Europe by Daithi O' Hogain (A touch lighter reading)

I enjoy all four of these books, very informative IMHO

[Hooahguy]

Amazon is charging $1,200.00 for this book! Can you believe that!

Its a scandal!

H.

wrong- its $849.95