EB with BI

[-Praetor-]

Hi!!!!

Can some kind soul post a noob-proof guide in order to play Europa Barbarorum 0.8x with RTW-Barbarian Invasion 1.6? I remember someone posting links to it, but I can`t find it anymore (just when I need it, damnit ).

I`ve heard it`s actually pretty easy to do it, but alas, I dunno how...

This is not only for me, but for all who like the much better naval invasions, and overall slighty better AI of BI.

Than you very much.

[Bava]

I read the thread "How to play with BI-exe", pretty confusing i have to say.

I decided to make things not overly complicated and simply changed the eb-shortcut to the bi-exe and...it works.

It looks like this (EB 0.8 is just the old RTW folder):
"D:\Games\EB 0.8\RomeTW-BI.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm

Stable as a rock, 2 full campaigns with 5 CTDs overall.

The only thing that might be a problem related to BI were rebel stacks with gold upgrades but that happened only twice.


Edit: Found it http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=74213

[-Praetor-]

Okey, I`m going to try changing the path of the Eb shortcut from RTW.exe to BI.exe.

Thanks!!!!

[Mr Kaplan]

As I said elsewhere a few days ago custom and historical battles do not work playing with BI exe! Has anyone found the problem?

[Bava]

Maybe BI has a different folder structure? Dunno...

Until this prob is solved i have 2 shortcuts on my desktop, one BI (for campaigns) , one RTW 1.5 (for custom battles).

Edit: i forgot to add that you need to select a provincial campaign in order to play an imperial campaign.

[Fleeb]

I suggest starting your campaign with RomeTW.exe, then saving and loading it using RomeTW-BI.exe. If you start your campaign with BI you won't be able to apply certain preferences like "disable battle timer" and the like.

[Gazius]

I suggest starting your campaign with RomeTW.exe, then saving and loading it using RomeTW-BI.exe. If you start your campaign with BI you won't be able to apply certain preferences like "disable battle timer" and the like.

You go into game options and it says something akin to "Enbattle campaign battle timer" or something like that. Infact, your able to apply every preference you want in BI that you can in RTW. One more infact, which can be ported to RTW but its not of much use since it screws up the EB scripts.

[Fleeb]

Huh. Didn't even think to do that. I'm used to setting my prefs on the faction selection screen. When I start an EB campaign using BI the only options are the difficulty settings and the "manage all settlements" option.

[blank]

I suggest starting your campaign with RomeTW.exe, then saving and loading it using RomeTW-BI.exe. If you start your campaign with BI you won't be able to apply certain preferences like "disable battle timer" and the like.

Campaign saves made with RTW.exe don't work with BI.exe

[Gazius]

Campaign saves made with RTW.exe don't work with BI.exe

Actually, they do.

[sages]

Are there any benefits to using the BI executable instead of the 1.5 executable?

[Pode]

As K-raso said in the OP, slightly better AI and AI that isn't afraid to use ships to transport armies. The last one is the big advantage, otherwise the Punic Wars are kinda feeble, and poor Casse is screwed, blued, and tatooed. Of course, even with BI.exe, they're still blued and tatooed

[sages]

"As K-raso said in the OP, slightly better AI and AI that isn't afraid to use ships to transport armies. The last one is the big advantage, otherwise the Punic Wars are kinda feeble, and poor Casse is screwed, blued, and tatooed. Of course, even with BI.exe, they're still blued and tatooed "


So I see now. :=) Looks good. I may have to start doing this.

[CountArach]

Oh how I love the BI.exe.

Playing as Qarthadast, the Romans invaded Corsica to start the First Punic War.

[Rogge]

Gonna give it a try with 0.81 because I take there is no known serious issues playing with BI?

[Mr Kaplan]

We already know that playing with BI.exe is more challenging. But we still do not know how to play custom battles with BI.exe because of CTDs . Has anyone found the problem?

Any help?

[cmlax999]

BI really does make a difference, as Rome I took Sardegna and Corsica, installed garrisons and returned my vet legion I used for retraining. Carthage sent like 2 stacks to retake Sardegna, so I sent my legion back there to capture it to find the Carthaginian stakes had sailed to Corsica and took that too. I'm chasing these assholes around the Tyrrannian. It's odd though, I did a Rome campaign with 1.5 and the fight for Sicily was downright bitter, I mean they were actually pushing me back at times and (I was trying). This time they havn't made any advances and I don't see any armies near Carthage or Lilibeum(sp?), but then I didn't before and they produced 2 stacks out of nowhere to take the islands back. We'll see what they do after I take Syracusa. Loving Bi.

[-Praetor-]

BI really does make a difference, as Rome I took Sardegna and Corsica, installed garrisons and returned my vet legion I used for retraining. Carthage sent like 2 stacks to retake Sardegna, so I sent my legion back there to capture it to find the Carthaginian stakes had sailed to Corsica and took that too. I'm chasing these assholes around the Tyrrannian. It's odd though, I did a Rome campaign with 1.5 and the fight for Sicily was downright bitter, I mean they were actually pushing me back at times and (I was trying). This time they havn't made any advances and I don't see any armies near Carthage or Lilibeum(sp?), but then I didn't before and they produced 2 stacks out of nowhere to take the islands back. We'll see what they do after I take Syracusa. Loving Bi.

The problem with carthaginean Sicily and the roaming little tsorim stacks in Italy, wandering and trying to reach Iberia by land, are explained by the landbridge in the Messanna Strait.

I humbly ask to remove it.

If the AI wouldn`t interprete that Sicily is part of the continent, thus forming part of the same landmass on which is Iberia, thus trying to send reinforcements to Sicily, from Iberia, by land, thus rendering the island defenseless cuz of the delay of reinforcements...



...then the AI would send ships with reinforcements from carthage itself.

So, plz remove that landbridge. It`s causing trouble.

And perhaps, it may also cause problems with the carthaginean AI stacks in Iberia (they usually have 1 full stack in Hercules Columns, near Gadir, just sitting there). Dunno how the remotion of the landbridge in Sicily would affect something that happens in Gadir, but it`s worth trying...

Cheers!!!!

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

The problem with carthaginean Sicily and the roaming little tsorim stacks in Italy, wandering and trying to reach Iberia by land, are explained by the landbridge in the Messanna Strait.

I humbly ask to remove it.

If the AI wouldn`t interprete that Sicily is part of the continent, thus forming part of the same landmass on which is Iberia, thus trying to send reinforcements to Sicily, from Iberia, by land, thus rendering the island defenseless cuz of the delay of reinforcements...



...then the AI would send ships with reinforcements from carthage itself.

So, plz remove that landbridge. It`s causing trouble.

And perhaps, it may also cause problems with the carthaginean AI stacks in Iberia (they usually have 1 full stack in Hercules Columns, near Gadir, just sitting there). Dunno how the remotion of the landbridge in Sicily would affect something that happens in Gadir, but it`s worth trying...

Cheers!!!!

The Problem is that official EB is for 1.5, and in 1.5 the landbridge is needed. This would have to go into the PE alterations catagory.

[Ludens]

The Problem is that official EB is for 1.5, and in 1.5 the landbridge is needed. This would have to go into the PE alterations catagory.

It also happens in 1.5, I am quite sure of that. I haven't played a Romani campaign yet, but it also happens in Blue Lotus.

[-Praetor-]

The Problem is that official EB is for 1.5, and in 1.5 the landbridge is needed. This would have to go into the PE alterations catagory.

That landbridge causes more troubles than the benefits it gives.

Besides, what`s the point of that landbridge, when the Romanii, in a good percentage of times, doesn`t conquer Rhegion?

Besides, the fact that in 1.6, agressive naval invasions are more frequent, doesn`t mean that 1.5 AI doesn`t try them altogether.

They are just less frequent (a lot, that`s true). But I`ve seen many times that the Romanii conquer Corsica and Sardinia...

Cheers!!!

[cmlax999]

Does anybody know how to do this? It's got to be a pretty simple fix. I still don't get why, then, 1.5 would be much harder in Sicily. Because in 1.6 they just ship troops straight to Iberia instead of sending them through Sicily? So essentially Sicily is so hard in 1.5 due to the AI being stupid, or less so then in 1.6? ..

[Gazius]

I've been searching on the forum, but haven't found anything actually useful. How do I remove/add landbridges in my own game?

[hellenes]

As I said elsewhere a few days ago custom and historical battles do not work playing with BI exe! Has anyone found the problem?

I have the same problem...
Its strange how Chivalry Total War plays fine with the BI exe....with custom and historical battles!!!

Edit:

FOUND THE SOLUTION!!!!
Hehehe!!!
You just have to make a folder called: barbarian_invasion in the data/world/campaign folder and copy all the content of the imperial_campaign folder to that!!!!
Ive just played a custom battle spartans vs pontus!!!

[Mr Kaplan]

Last!!!
Thanks a lot Hellenes. I am at work now. I will try it this afternoon.

[Janius]

Hellenes, I can't seem to get it to work

I take it I have to copy the content of the "imperial_campaign" folder located in
"Rome - Total War\EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign"

to a new made "barbarian_invasion" folder. But where do I have to place it?

I've got three "data/world/maps/campaign" folders (RTW, BI and EB).

In which one do I have to copy the files

Thx in advance

[Mr Kaplan]

Janius, I have got the same problem. Any idea?

[hellenes]

Hellenes, I can't seem to get it to work

I take it I have to copy the content of the "imperial_campaign" folder located in
"Rome - Total War\EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign"

to a new made "barbarian_invasion" folder. But where do I have to place it?

I've got three "data/world/maps/campaign" folders (RTW, BI and EB).

In which one do I have to copy the files

Thx in advance

In the Rome - Total War\EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\ folder....

[Janius]

Thx for the answer Hellenes

Hmm, I tried it, but I get a Windows Error

Could this be because I have Barbarian Invasion installed?

[Mr Kaplan]

Not working for me either. I have got Bi + 1.6 patch installed.